World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Lacrymas]

I'd argue fighting against generic mooks and homeless isn't what you should be doing as a preternaturally strong vampire, but what do I know.

 

[Roguey]

Because some people here dislike Annie's political opinions, they headcanon that her and Brian's marriage is an unhappy one.

She left her husband for Brian, and given what a loud insecure drama queen she's been on the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if she's the jealous, always-suspicious type.

 

[Background Character]

I'd argue fighting against generic mooks and homeless isn't what you should be doing as a preternaturally strong vampire, but what do I know.

Fighting hobos is the modern equivalent to fighting rats in fantasy games

 

[HoboForEternity]

i will do my part with my brethren to train losers into well sculpted men and women by trying to whack them with lead pipes

 

[Wesp5]

If you want to keep the firearm, just don't empty it and get more ammo instead.

don't empty it? that's stupid. so if you accidentally fire your last shot - oops! - your gun is gone.

I completely agree! I already told my contact that if they really want to keep the overalll idea, you can only carry two guns anyway, you should throw an empty gun away once you find another gun with ammo, but not when it's just empty itself...

 

[Infinitron]

If you want to keep the firearm, just don't empty it and get more ammo instead.

don't empty it? that's stupid. so if you accidentally fire your last shot - oops! - your gun is gone.

I completely agree! I already told my contact that if they really want to keep the overalll idea, you can only carry two guns anyway, you should throw an empty gun away once you find another gun with ammo, but not when it's just empty itself...

Have you been told that ammo packs can be found regularly while playing the game? I don't mean having your ammo topped up once in a while between missions or at stores, but finding it strewn about as loot.

 

[Ibn Sina]

They are giving weapon skins in the preorders... A gun that you throw away in the trashbin after you empty its magazine and a cool sword weapon that breaks after killing 1-3 enemies...Both of this preorders are useless because of game mechanics. Makes me think that they really added it in the last minute because they could not think of anything else.

 

[Mikeal]

They are giving weapon skins in the preorders... A gun that you throw away in the trashbin after you empty its magazine and a cool sword weapon that breaks after killing 1-3 enemies...Both of this preorders are useless because of game mechanics. Makes me think that they really added it in the last minute because they could not think of anything else.

#justparadoxthings

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

If you want to keep the firearm, just don't empty it and get more ammo instead.

don't empty it? that's stupid. so if you accidentally fire your last shot - oops! - your gun is gone.

I completely agree! I already told my contact that if they really want to keep the overalll idea, you can only carry two guns anyway, you should throw an empty gun away once you find another gun with ammo, but not when it's just empty itself...

Have you been told that ammo packs can be found regularly while playing the game? I don't mean having your ammo topped up once in a while between missions or at stores, but finding it strewn about as loot.

From the sound of it, I doubt you can find ammo at all and just pick up loaded weapons.

Looking at the gameplay, it seems like they want to make every game fight feel improvisational, probably in an attempt to capture the feel of an action film, or else just as an attempt at simplifying the combat system so as not to repeat some of the perceived errors of Bloodlines - guns being too weak to be a legitimate path etc.

 

[Roguey]

Guns were only weak in the first two hubs. If you're not using guns by the end, you're going to be in for a hard time unless you're putting it all into high damage spells.

 

[Okagron]

Colt Anaconda was ridiculously strong from midgame to endgame in Bloodlines 1. I think it's the reason why i tolerated the sewers and all of the endgame dungeons, i was just destroying enemies left and right. And it was kind of fun honestly.

 

[Nines_Anarch]

A Q1 2020 release won't be enough for them to polish it. I would preffer a delay.

To get this done the release date should be around Q4 2020 (October - December). And that's being optimistical.

I mean Bloodlines 2 still is in pre-alpha (which means not playable from begining to end yet). While Cyberpunk 2077 has been in alpha (completed) since 2018 (they have been polishing it and adding new stuff since then).

I know the budgets are very different but it serves as an example. Even a 2020 release is very optimistic for B2... A 2021 release date would be more realistic considering its actual stage. Otherwise it could be the same case as Bloodlines 1 on release.

I am not expecting the same level of improvement as Troika did for Jeanette model...

If they can manage to improve on the same level Troika did over development progress of the original then I'll eat my own words. But so far doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[Zer0wing]

Bloodlines 2 is not on the same scale as Cyberpunk 2077, it's not a massive open world game. BL2 is a humble hub-based game with fewer content and shorter walkthrough time. Hardsuit Lab won't need as much time to polish the game. Ya dingus.

 

[Nines_Anarch]

Bloodlines 2 is not on the same scale as Cyberpunk 2077, it's not a massive open world game. BL2 is a humble hub-based game with fewer content and shorter walkthrough time. Hardsuit Lab won't need as much time to polish the game. Ya dingus.

Yeah, it was not a good example and I hope you are right. But definitely needs some extra polishment on some levels. What I meant is that I would preffer a delay instead of a rushed out game. I can wait another year.

 

[Alexios]

Bloodlines 2 is not on the same scale as Cyberpunk 2077, it's not a massive open world game. BL2 is a humble hub-based game with fewer content and shorter walkthrough time. Hardsuit Lab won't need as much time to polish the game. Ya dingus.

"Polishing" doesn't even begin to address this mess.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

I have newfound disrespect for Paradox. After that gameplay video, I would've scrapped the project and asked some other studio to do it from scratch. It's better to admit your mistakes earlier (your poor choice of studio), than to ruin your entire IP and then be like "oh well, I guess VTM franchise wasn't lucrative to begin with!"

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Shit, as much as I hate Obsidian and think them an incompetent diversity brigade, I would've preferred them to do it. This is how bad it is.

 

[hivemind]

the franchise belongs to mitsoda much more than it does to the paracucks

 

[hivemind]

FUCK the buying and selling of IPs

 

[BANANA CONDUCT]

What's this, a Jeanette for ants?

 

[Roguey]

It's better to admit your mistakes earlier (your poor choice of studio), than to ruin your entire IP and then be like "oh well, I guess VTM franchise wasn't lucrative to begin with!"

Don't worry, they also have a visual novel and a walking sim with bad ends coming out this year too. They're going to run it into the ground.

the franchise belongs to mitsoda much more than it does to the paracucks

The guy who wrote a bunch of stock clan archetypes under the direction of Boyarsky?

The person who created the setting was fired for being too edgy (the Chechnya thing).

 

[Delterius]

I'd argue fighting against generic mooks and homeless isn't what you should be doing as a preternaturally strong vampire, but what do I know.

now that is a worthwhile opponent

 

[Nines_Anarch]

What's this, a Jeanette for ants?

Reality Vs Expectations

 

[Wesp5]

Have you been told that ammo packs can be found regularly while playing the game? I don't mean having your ammo topped up once in a while between missions or at stores, but finding it strewn about as loot.

Not exactly like that. I was told that ammo could be found, but not how. Also they are thinking about making guns you dropped available again later, like in a shop or your haven.

 

[Delterius]

pathetic gun vampires btfo