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Goral

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Brian seems to be much more relaxed when he's with guys than with women. I think I know why (*cough* Annie *cough*).

They've said here that Brian is the lead narrative designer but something tells me that that woman's influence will be much greater than I will be willing to accept. Not to mention that this game won't have Leonard Boyarsky to keep a tight rein on so that everything would be consistent and logical. Based on the gameplay we've seen it really lacks someone sensible who would point out any inconsistencies.
 

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What does Annie have to do with it?
Because some people here dislike Annie's political opinions, they headcanon that her and Brian's marriage is an unhappy one.
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Don't know where you got the idea that anyone thinks their marriage is unhappy one, I however am suggesting that Mitsoda is under his wife's thumb (that's why he's wearing gloves, so that his hands would be delicate) and she doesn't like when he's with other women, hence he gets nervous and is afraid what his wife might think. But I'm only half-serious here so take the stick out of your ass.
 
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At least in GTA Vice City you could be a thug ice cream salesman. This shit game can't hold a candle to GTA Vice City.

We still need a Shadowrun: Vice City - game. Would buy that without a second thought.
 
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so fucking stupid I cant be a shotgun-wielding vampire in this fucking vampire RPG fuck fuck fuck these devs goddamn

It has already been confirmed, that this is not true. If you want to keep the firearm, just don't empty it and get more ammo instead. For whatever reason the demo player went for melee over firearms...
 

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Yeah, it's still fucking stupid for a game to force throwing away a gun just because you run out of bullets. Why not give the player the option to drop a weapon when and if he wants to?
 

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Do they really need quest markers when they using the hub design. The maps are already small. If they are not worth getting lost in then your game sucks.

I understand their approach with what they doing combat scenario and it seems cool after seeing in practice but the moment our dude big bad tough guy stronk vampire runs into a hunter with a gun loaded with silver bullets and katana will have us feeling dumb as fuck :) https://youtu.be/R2o7uzf8BY4 https://youtu.be/Vcd_qCDfAyk
 
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Yeah, it's still fucking stupid for a game to force throwing away a gun just because you run out of bullets. Why not give the player the option to drop a weapon when and if he wants to?
Some of the things they've shown remind me strongly of Condemned, including tearing off pipes just to protect yourself and throwing away guns when you don't have bullets anymore.

The reason it was done this way is because of strong emphasis on melee combat and lack of any kind of inventory management. It worked there, otherwise you would have accumulated firearms and waltz through the game.

I don't think it will work here though. Also, combat, AI and animations were miles better in Condemned.

 

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It has already been confirmed, that this is not true. If you want to keep the firearm, just don't empty it and get more ammo instead. For whatever reason the demo player went for melee over firearms...
Why not just let the player keep any gun they want regardless if they empty it? As much the combat in the first game was subpar (and i'm being kind of it), guns were kind of fun.

To make matters more confusing, there's a pistol skin as a pre-order bonus.
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So, they are temporary, but there's a pistol skin. So do we get to get to keep specific guns? This is confusing.
 

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It has already been confirmed, that this is not true. If you want to keep the firearm, just don't empty it and get more ammo instead. For whatever reason the demo player went for melee over firearms...
Why not just let the player keep any gun they want regardless if they empty it? As much the combat in the first game was subpar (and i'm being kind of it), guns were kind of fun.

To make matters more confusing, there's a pistol skin as a pre-order bonus.
first-blood-pack-800x587.jpg

So, they are temporary, but there's a pistol skin. So do we get to get to keep specific guns? This is confusing.


It turns into your skin automatically as you pick it up, just like in your favourite online competitive shooter™️
 

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If you want to keep the firearm, just don't empty it and get more ammo instead.
don't empty it? that's stupid. so if you accidentally fire your last shot - oops! - your gun is gone.

really, just a dumb idea. they should opt for a trade-able weapon slot like in MGSV instead. if you want to swap, you can, if not, you can just leave the weapon empty and buy/find some ammo later.

we shouldn't have to play vampire MacGuiver every mission, trying to find some random object to fight with.
 

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Are the nominations of IGN per IGN staffers? I think the other games as well have multiple IGN nominations so not sure how that works.
 

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Daayum! Game must be coming along quite nicely if the prestigious IGN has taken notice!

Grand Theft Auto 4 “10 outta 10 mastapeece!” - IGN

Imperator Rome “8 outta 10 GREAT!” - IGN

ELEX “how is this gaaaem?! Nobody wanted this gaaaem!!” -IGN

:obviously:
 

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Yeah, it's still fucking stupid for a game to force throwing away a gun just because you run out of bullets. Why not give the player the option to drop a weapon when and if he wants to?
Some of the things they've shown remind me strongly of Condemned, including tearing off pipes just to protect yourself and throwing away guns when you don't have bullets anymore.

The reason it was done this way is because of strong emphasis on melee combat and lack of any kind of inventory management. It worked there, otherwise you would have accumulated firearms and waltz through the game.

I don't think it will work here though. Also, combat, AI and animations were miles better in Condemned.

Unlike this game, you didn't actually throw away your gun in Condemned automatically. Once it ran out of bullets, you could still use it as a melee weapon to pistol-whip enemies with. Though if you did throw it away, there was no downside, since ammo in Condemned is only ever found within guns, never by itself.

Condemned's combat is great, but an RPG where you play as a preternaturally strong vampire shouldn't copy the combat system of a survival horror game. Not that it matters, since the combat in Bloodlines 2 looks absolutely terrible regardless of genre.
 

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Condemned's combat is great, but an RPG where you play as a preternaturally strong vampire shouldn't copy the combat system of a survival horror game.
I don't disagree here. By the same token, should it copy the combat system of Call of Duty? :cool:
 

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