World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[ArchAngel]

The more I see of VTMB 2 the more I regret ever hoping for a sequel. Least we still have VTMB 1 which will also be awesome. I hope we never get an Arcanum sequel either. Be careful what you wish for.

I don't agree. VTMB was so much better than 99% of RPGs that even a sequel that is 75% as good is still worthy of playing.

I made a spelling mistake. Least we still have VTMB 1 which will also be awesome I meant always instead of also.

You can make a good sequel with everything that the previous game had and even better. But often times turn out "soulless" and lacks something without being able to what made the previous game so good. Will the writing be as good? Sure Mitsoda is doing the writing. But having to run it by the PC police is what will strip the soul away from what made VTMB 1 great.

Or maybe VTMB is the pinnacle of their creative power and effort and everything they can achieve later is just trying to get close. Maybe expecting them to be able to achieve that level of greatness is futile.
Many creatives in many fields achieve their best works earlier and then are never able to reach it again.

My point is that maybe you just need to manage your expectations better.

 

[Delterius]

My point is that maybe you just need to manage your expectations better.

I am become hype.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

The more I see of VTMB 2 the more I regret ever hoping for a sequel. Least we still have VTMB 1 which will also be awesome. I hope we never get an Arcanum sequel either. Be careful what you wish for.

I don't agree. VTMB was so much better than 99% of RPGs that even a sequel that is 75% as good is still worthy of playing.

I made a spelling mistake. Least we still have VTMB 1 which will also be awesome I meant always instead of also.

You can make a good sequel with everything that the previous game had and even better. But often times turn out "soulless" and lacks something without being able to what made the previous game so good. Will the writing be as good? Sure Mitsoda is doing the writing. But having to run it by the PC police is what will strip the soul away from what made VTMB 1 great.

Or maybe VTMB is the pinnacle of their creative power and effort and everything they can achieve later is just trying to get close. Maybe expecting them to be able to achieve that level of greatness is futile.
Many creatives in many fields achieve their best works earlier and then are never able to reach it again.

My point is that maybe you just need to manage your expectations better.

You're right. Maybe I'm creating an expectation that will never be matched. I'll be happy if VTMB 2 is good / excellent.

 

[Delterius]

It will be the best game of a thousand years.

 

[Herumor]

The factions presented so far seem bland as fuck. Camarilla and Anarchs were to be expected, sure, but these Pioneers and Newcomers just seem pointless. The former could be simply seen as part of the Camarilla, the latter as Anarchs.

Has there even been a hint of a joinable Sabbat-like faction?

 

[Infinitron]

I think it's cool that the game has "local" factions and it's not just Camarilla, Sabbat and Anarchs, like global fast food franchises that have somehow always been in power everywhere.

The Pioneers as an older more genteel elite vs the more modern corporate Camarilla is a good use of the Toreador and Ventrue clan stereotypes.

 

[jungl]

with all these factions u can potentially backstab. There should be a ending if you make too many enemies they all get together and be like "hey lets kill this dummy". Too many rpgs about power fantasy would be nice to see some realism.

 

[Storyfag]

My point is that maybe you just need to manage your expectations better.

GTFO. As customers, it is our right to have the highest expectations.

 

[Nifft Batuff]

All of that is interesting, however factions here factions there, factions up, factions down, in the end factions are boring. Better focus on the individuals.

 

[Delterius]

All of that is interesting, however factions here factions there, factions up, factions down, in the end factions are boring. Better focus on the individuals.

viktor gorga seems cool

 

[Nines_Anarch]

The game is going to be glorious.
Yes, I believe in miracles.

 

[Prime Junta]

The game is going to be glorious.
Yes, I believe in miracles.

 

[Delterius]

The game is going to be glorious.
Yes, I believe in miracles.

YES YES YES

 

[HansDampf]

All those faction reveals are

. The game should speak for itself.

 

[Fedora Master]

All those faction reveals are

. The game should speak for itself.

The reason the Left can't meme is because of their insufferable need to bloviate. This is the same thing.

 

[Nines_Anarch]

The game is going to be glorious.
Yes, I believe in miracles.

YES YES YES

 

[Delterius]

The game is going to be glorious.
Yes, I believe in miracles.

YES YES YES

 

[Prime Junta]

The game is going to be glorious.
Yes, I believe in miracles.

YES YES YES

 

[Wunderbar]

Instead of faction reveals they should post some screenshots, preferably with character stat screen and inventory.

 

[Wesp5]

Instead of faction reveals they should post some screenshots, preferably with character stat screen and inventory.

That would be interesting indeed, but as with Outer Worlds and Cyberpunk developers nowadays seem to believe that this is of too little interest to the press.
But speaking of the factions, on Planet Vampire a theory was made that each faction is connected to a clan and you need to choose one to raise to full blood:

Pioneers - Toreador
Camarilla - Ventrue
Baron - Malkavian
Newcomers - Tremere
? - Brujah

DLC:
? - Nosferatu
? - Gangrel

 

[santino27]

Instead of faction reveals they should post some screenshots, preferably with character stat screen and inventory.

But stat screens and inventory are useless to potential fan fic writers and cosplayers, who are, of course, the primary demographic they appear to be chasing.

Which... I guess makes it fairly true to the source material.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

Instead of faction reveals they should post some screenshots, preferably with character stat screen and inventory.

That would be interesting indeed, but as with Outer Worlds and Cyberpunk developers nowadays seem to believe that this is of too little interest to the press.
But speaking of the factions, on Planet Vampire a theory was made that each faction is connected to a clan and you need to choose one to raise to full blood:

Pioneers - Toreador
Camarilla - Ventrue
Baron - Malkavian
Newcomers - Tremere
? - Brujah

DLC:
? - Nosferatu
? - Gangrel

That'd be decline indeed!

My guess is, that Baron is the Brujah faction btw.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Instead of faction reveals they should post some screenshots, preferably with character stat screen and inventory.

Yes they need to show off all the cool fashion accessories you can equip in your undead life!

 

[fantadomat]

My guess is, that Baron is the Brujah faction btw.

Wasn't a baron standard title for a brujah leader?

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

My guess is, that Baron is the Brujah faction btw.

Wasn't a baron standard title for a brujah leader?

Standard for Anarch equivalents of Prince.