World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Sailor Woedica]

Well Baron is supposed to be an Anarch title, no ? Like Isaac and the Voermans in BL1.

I think the next faction after they reveal the Anarchs is going to be VSCO vampires

 

[Harry Easter]

Nobody actually talks like that. This a whole other level of cringe.

... you never visited a dating site, didn't you :D?

 

[Roguey]

She's not actually awkward though, it's just a facade she puts on in an attempt to appear 'zany'.

I saw some leaked mobile phone videos that suggest otherwise.

 

[Ninjerk]

Apparently I am Infinitron now

I don't know how to feel about this development

Just start splitting things and talking about Obsidian. You know, act natural.

 

[Cael]

Apparently I am Infinitron now

I don't know how to feel about this development

Just start splitting things and talking about Obsidian. You know, act natural.

Remember also that you have to shill for anyone that stuff your gob with a cock and harass anyone that says your tranny boyfriend is a fat useless slob.

 

[Delterius]

https://drawdistance.dev/vampire-the-masquerade-coteries-of-new-york

nintendo switch

wat

edit holy fek I forgot all about this

 

[Danikas]

A new player on the Kindred scene, Rudi commands an impressive following as an Anarch representative for the oppressed and repressed minorities in vampire society. Though his concerns extend to kine as well, his recent entry into Kindred existence has shown him that the fights mortals must undertake for equality are just as pressing for immortals. Rudi’s nightly life hasn’t changed much since the Embrace. He still makes his haven in Copenhagen, still hangs with the same friends, and still attends the same clubs. He has only expanded his concerns; in addition to advocating for fellow mortal minorities, he now champions Gangrel kept out of havens and feeding grounds by sprawl, stands up for female Kindred in cities run by traditionally misogynistic elders, and encourages the adoption of progressive norms over tradition wherever possible. Some might think Rudi’s combination of practicing Islam and unabashed queerness contradictory, but few challenge the “Bear Gangrel” with this notion. Fast becoming the animale du jour, Rudi wins fellow discontented Kindred over with his targeted approach against elitists and Camarilla hardliners. Some European Princes fear he will lead a crusade in years to come, in an attempt to level the establishment.

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Rudi

 

[Wesp5]

About Rudi, did it ever occur to anybody that this might be sarcasm to show how a character should not be? Like not a SJW Mary Sue like e.g. Rey in the SW sequels. Or does he actually appear somewhere else in the PnP books?

 

[Prime Junta]

About Rudi, did it ever occur to anybody that this might be sarcasm to show how a character should not be? Like not a SJW Mary Sue like e.g. Rey in the SW sequels. Or does he actually appear somewhere else in the PnP books?

I gotta say Rudi ticks all the boxes so thoroughly it's hard not to think there might be just a smidge of satire there.

Damsel, bless her blood-red heart, is a satirical take on a young Commie too.

 

[Cael]

About Rudi, did it ever occur to anybody that this might be sarcasm to show how a character should not be?

It is Paradox. The answer is "No".

 

[Roguey]

About Rudi, did it ever occur to anybody that this might be sarcasm to show how a character should not be? Like not a SJW Mary Sue like e.g. Rey in the SW sequels. Or does he actually appear somewhere else in the PnP books?

This discussion was had earlier in the thread; Rudi is based on a real person, though he's in the closet to his family so it's more of a wishful-thinking power fantasy.

 

[fantadomat]

About Rudi, did it ever occur to anybody that this might be sarcasm to show how a character should not be? Like not a SJW Mary Sue like e.g. Rey in the SW sequels. Or does he actually appear somewhere else in the PnP books?

This discussion was had earlier in the thread; Rudi is based on a real person, though he's in the closet to his family so it's more of a wishful-thinking power fantasy.

That is so pitiful LoL It is like that stupid movie by tarantino where there was some jew super squad and ended up killing hitler. Liberal losers are soooo fucking cringe.

 

[Prime Junta]

This discussion was had earlier in the thread; Rudi is based on a real person, though he's in the closet to his family so it's more of a wishful-thinking power fantasy.

Being based on a real person doesn't rule it out being satirical. (Obviously they'd also want to maintain plausible deniability about the satire, too.)

Spoiler

 

[HansDampf]

About Rudi, did it ever occur to anybody that this might be sarcasm to show how a character should not be? Like not a SJW Mary Sue like e.g. Rey in the SW sequels. Or does he actually appear somewhere else in the PnP books?

This discussion was had earlier in the thread; Rudi is based on a real person, though he's in the closet to his family so it's more of a wishful-thinking power fantasy.

That is so pitiful LoL It is like that stupid movie by tarantino where there was some jew super squad and ended up killing hitler. Liberal losers are soooo fucking cringe.

Inglourious Basterds? Funny movie.

 

[fantadomat]

About Rudi, did it ever occur to anybody that this might be sarcasm to show how a character should not be? Like not a SJW Mary Sue like e.g. Rey in the SW sequels. Or does he actually appear somewhere else in the PnP books?

This discussion was had earlier in the thread; Rudi is based on a real person, though he's in the closet to his family so it's more of a wishful-thinking power fantasy.

That is so pitiful LoL It is like that stupid movie by tarantino where there was some jew super squad and ended up killing hitler. Liberal losers are soooo fucking cringe.

Inglourious Basterds? Funny movie.

Don't remember,it was too cringy for me,decided to go wash the dishes while the other people watch it.

 

[HansDampf]

 

[Ismaul]

Roguey You shaved?

Where are your tags and MCA signature? I almost didn't recognize you lul.

 

[Roguey]

Roguey You shaved?

Where are your tags and MCA signature? I almost didn't recognize you lul.

It was determined that all those tags were overkill (especially now that I'm post-Sawyerist), so I kept the best one.

I took off the trollish Chris quotes because that kind of antagonism isn't really part of my posting style anymore.

 

[Ismaul]

Roguey
I understand. Striving to be a law-abiding citizen is a demanding task. Some part of yourself has to be sacrificed for the greater good.

But it is clear that "Bride of the Obsidian Order" was the best tag.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

so is bloodlines 2 oh-wawd or nu-wawd of darkness

Now, sit down and try to sort this out with me. I've only recently managed to wrap my head around this, myself. I'm sure you know some of this, so I'm sorry if I sound patronizing, but there's likely people that know nothing at all.

• First there was World of Darkness. This is used in the VtM:B, which is based on Vampire: The Masquerade, Revised Edition (IIRC).
• Then, White Wolf made a new World of Darkness, which they simply called World of Darkness, and it was very different from the established setting. This was usually referenced as "nWoD".
• At this point, what used to be called World of Darkness started to be referenced as "old World of Darkness", or "oWoD", and later "Classic World of Darkness". Vampire: The Masquerade is canned, and Vampire: The Requiem is born. There's a number of sister games that suffer the same fate/are rebranded.
  
• nWoD never achieved the popularity of oWoD, for a number of reasons that are irrelevant.
• Cue White Wolf being acquired by Paradox. At this point in our story, or a little bit later, they want to create what they call "One World of Darkness". After a while, they rebrand nWoD into "Chronicles of Darkness", also referenced as "CofD". The "One World of Darkness" that they create instead is considered a continuation of oWoD, which is rebranded as simply "World of Darkness" again.
• They proceed to publish what is called V5, which is the fifth "Edition" of Vampire: The Masquerade. This is the fucking abortion Bloodlines 2 will be based on. It is technically oWod/WoD, but it is also worse in almost every way, with a massive dose of SJWism, gatekeeping, and complete faggotry just to add to the controversy.

This entire franchise is a fucking mess, and it doesn't help that some of the better/older versions are massively outdated by now. For example, Mage: The Ascension, the only (Old)/World of Darkness version of Mage AFAIK, was published in fucking 1993 and corresponds with Vampire: The Masquerade 2nd Ed. (V2), which was in itself published in fucking 1992. While there's a newer version (Mage: The Awakening, from 2005), it belongs to nWoD/CofD, just like the newer versions of Werewolf and such.

And just to add to the confusion, they couldn't even stick to a proper version format, so the versions of Vampire: The Masquerade goes like this: 1st Edition (V1, 1991) 2nd Edition (V2, 1992), Revised Edition (V3, 1998). Then we have Vampire: The Requiem (2004) in a completely different universe (nWoD). Then we get a new version of Vampire: The Masquerade, also considered a bit of an abortion, called The 20th Anniversary Edition (2011), referenced as V20. And now where here, with Paradox's Vampire: The Masquerade (2018), which is referenced as.. V5.

I suggest calling it gWoD, for the gay World of Darkness.

I wondering about this myself.
That clears it up. Thanks!

What a clusterfuck.
However, how come Bloodlines 2 is set in the "old World of Darkness" if in 2004 that setting supposedly ended for being the theme year of "Time of Judgement"?
Doesn't that pretty much invalidates the whole point of setting your game in the supposed "Final Nigths", if the big world ending event has already come to pass.

Besides having a fantasy game - where the fanstasy elements are unknown to the general population - set in a time where everybody possess a pocket computer with a built-in camera and Internet acess, is pretty damn stupid.
We could suspend our disbelief in the first game, because it was set in the 90's/early 2000's and the Apocalypse was about to happen in a couple of years.
But here what... do the Vampire/Mage/Werewolf/Hunter societies have that gizmo from Men in Black that erases peoples memory?

 

[Delterius]

However, how come Bloodlines 2 is set in the "old World of Darkness" if in 2004 that setting supposedly ended for being the theme year of "Time of Judgement"?
Doesn't that pretty much invalidates the whole point of setting your game in the supposed "Final Nigths", if the big world ending event has already come to pass.

the world is ending rn, gehenna is happening in the middle east and all the eldest vampires are called there to be fed upon by the antidelluvians while the sabbat went there to die trying to kill the old farts

 

[Roguey]

Roguey
I understand. Striving to be a law-abiding citizen is a demanding task. Some part of yourself has to be sacrificed for the greater good.

But it is clear that "Bride of the Obsidian Order" was the best tag.

With no disrespect to Stainless Vet, who I vaguely recall being the one who made it, I found it obnoxiously obscene, being the prude I am.

 

[Ismaul]

I found it obnoxiously obscene

It was perfect. Rooted in the Codex's oldest traditions. A great honor to receive such distinction.

 

[Wesp5]

However, how come Bloodlines 2 is set in the "old World of Darkness" if in 2004 that setting supposedly ended for being the theme year of "Time of Judgement"?

According to the new PnP version "Gehenna" is some kind of cyclic event and not as final as though.

Besides having a fantasy game - where the fanstasy elements are unknown to the general population - set in a time where everybody possess a pocket computer with a built-in camera and Internet acess, is pretty damn stupid.

I hope the game deals with this in the correct way. On the other hand, people believe anything they want to believe and computers can fake anything already. So why should these vampire YouTube videos be even real ?

 

[DJOGamer PT]

However, how come Bloodlines 2 is set in the "old World of Darkness" if in 2004 that setting supposedly ended for being the theme year of "Time of Judgement"?

According to the new PnP version "Gehenna" is some kind of cyclic event and not as final as though.

That just dumb.
So an event where all hell breaks loose and vampires and other supernatural creatures/forces just go on a rampage is a recurring thing and no one fucking remembers it!?

Besides having a fantasy game - where the fanstasy elements are unknown to the general population - set in a time where everybody possess a pocket computer with a built-in camera and Internet acess, is pretty damn stupid.

I hope the game deals with this in the correct way. On the other hand, people believe anything they want to believe and computers can fake anything already. So why should these vampire YouTube videos be even real ?

Most people migth be stupid or ignorant, but c'mon not that stupid.
It would reach a point where those videos and sigthings would be so common, along side the reports and injuries from such attacks, that suspicion in the general populace would be inevetable.
Even if the majority of people didn't believe in them, the minority would. Which is already a significant part of the population (and you bet there would be a couple nuts that would manage to uncover the vampire secret society).

The only somewhat believable way they can prevent this, is if for example they stopped assaulting people for blood, and started buying blood packs.
Or only drink humans in vampire spots (like a club), after those people are somewhat haggard from the booze or psych influence.
Otherwise they really must have those forgetting macguffins from Men in Black.