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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

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Buying a game before its been released for a year is either philanthropy or foolishness. It'sbeen that way since at least 2008. If you don't have a backlog that can endure though that period, at minimum, you need to evaluate your life choices.
 

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Bloodlines 2 Malkavians will have more in common with Toreador than the old malks.

I would have pegged Damp as a toreador because of that and because he wears a rose on his suit. I figured that he kills people on his shitlist because he wants to make a statement, like a homicidal artist who kills for passion of carnage. That would've been more unpredictable and interesting than another foppish malkavian serial killer which no doubt is a popular choice for the p&p version.
 
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Every time I think of this game all I can think of is the development hell it must be going through right now. I bet they're playing an 80% near completed build and wondering what the fuck they've wasted years of development time on. A game like this really only comes together at the end and only through being completely honest with feedback and passionately pushing really hard - can you really see Seattle's finest sticking that landing?
 

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Covid is a plausible excuse to delay to 2021 if they have to. CK3 is coming out soon, a good game for lockdowns, so Paradox should do okay in the meantime.
 
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I bet they're playing an 80% near completed build and wondering what the fuck they've wasted years of development time on.
You're very generous about their mental abilities.

The mess of a combat and cringe worthy animations that they showed in the trailer was the final nail in the coffin for me. As far as I'm concerned, they're genuine retards.
 
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Oldie, but goodie. Masquerade violation:

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Are Malkavians supposed to be necessarily schizophrenic or a variety of mental illnesses? I always thought it was the latter although schizophrenia is always most interesting.

This is my view, but most people who play Malkavians as ax-crazy pants-on-heads retards do it wrong. They also probably do that annoying as fuck "I'M SO RANDOM" shit excessively.

Malkavian madness is best manifested as something more subtle. Think of someone saying something that sounds very deep and profound but when you actually begin to think it through you realize it makes zero fucking sense and sounds insane.
 

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Are Malkavians supposed to be necessarily schizophrenic or a variety of mental illnesses? I always thought it was the latter although schizophrenia is always most interesting.
My only exposure to the game is from Bloodlines 1, but from that my impression was that it could really be anything. You had the Malk player character who was the goofball type; you had Tourette who was a split personality but otherwise normal (Jeanette was annoying and bitchy but not crazy); then there was Dr. Grout, the most rational character in the game, who heard voices. I don't think there's one "right" way to portray them, and I don't see any reason why there should be.
 
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Are Malkavians supposed to be necessarily schizophrenic or a variety of mental illnesses? I always thought it was the latter although schizophrenia is always most interesting.

This is my view, but most people who play Malkavians as ax-crazy pants-on-heads retards do it wrong. They also probably do that annoying as fuck "I'M SO RANDOM" shit excessively.

Malkavian madness is best manifested as something more subtle. Think of someone saying something that sounds very deep and profound but when you actually begin to think it through you realize it makes zero fucking sense and sounds insane.

The tragic and infamous Dr. Gout recordings exemplify this well. He recognizes that his descent into the abyss is characterized by grandiose language and fatalistic compulsions. His keen intelligence is perverted into an obsessive meticulousness over irrational compulsions, manifest in the physical contortion of his mansion. Too bad you don't get to meet him. Those recordings were great.
 
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I was reading the codex VTM CYOA and the malk party member was rational at first glance, but once you really interacted with him it turned out that he believed that he was an actor in a film and that everything was scripted or staged. It was how the malk rationalized the existence of vampires and how his disciplines worked.
 

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The tragic and infamous Dr. Gout recordings exemplify this well. He recognizes that his descent into the abyss is characterized by grandiose language and fatalistic compulsions. His keen intelligence is perverted into an obsessive meticulousness over irrational compulsions, manifest in the physical manifestation of his mansion. Too bad you don't get to meet him. Those recordings were great.

Yeah, Dr. Gout is probably my favorite interpretation of Malkavian madness. It's both "toned down" but ultimately disturbing and is much more of an effective demonstration of a Malkavian than if you played the lunatic card in a way more generic fashion.
 

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Are Malkavians supposed to be necessarily schizophrenic or a variety of mental illnesses? I always thought it was the latter although schizophrenia is always most interesting.

This is my view, but most people who play Malkavians as ax-crazy pants-on-heads retards do it wrong. They also probably do that annoying as fuck "I'M SO RANDOM" shit excessively.

Malkavian madness is best manifested as something more subtle. Think of someone saying something that sounds very deep and profound but when you actually begin to think it through you realize it makes zero fucking sense and sounds insane.

The tragic and infamous Dr. Gout recordings exemplify this well. He recognizes that his descent into the abyss is characterized by grandiose language and fatalistic compulsions. His keen intelligence is perverted into an obsessive meticulousness over irrational compulsions, manifest in the physical contortion of his mansion. Too bad you don't get to meet him. Those recordings were great.

Decade after decade he bangs his head against a wall, expecting different results from the same methods of dissecting the "condition" that is vampirism. He's dilemma seems to be related to that of Beckett, he too is locked in a single perspective. I like that the irony of becoming like his subjects seems lost on him, the recordings
show how he begins to manifest the symptoms of schizophrenia to the letter, first the voices, then paranoia and isolation out of fear. Poetic justice for treating his victims in a particularly medieval fashion that was probably cruel even by the standards of his contemporaries.
 

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