World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Ninjerk]

She looks quite young, how old is she? I mean shouldn't the lead narrative designer be somebody with experience?

Yeah, but the people with experience can't stop viciously rapingflirtingwith their industry peers.

It's an honorary title at this stage. Her job is to tidy up and help ship what Brian and Cara created.

Also to systematically remove everything Chris Avellone contributed (this has been stated).

 

[mondblut]

Also to systematically remove everything Chris Avellone contributed (this has been stated).

Oh!

How about this version: Mitsoda and co were purged over their unwillingness to remove Avellone's work. The kotaku chick was then tasked with the job but took it half-heartedly and ended up purged herself. Now the cucks in chief have hired someone with a personal agenda to erase everything Avellone to do the duty thoroughly.

 

[Eli_Havelock]

Cancel Avellone, Receive Job

 

[mondblut]

Cancel Avellone, Receive Job

Even the herd at paradox corral starts getting worried.

 

[Eli_Havelock]

Cancel Avellone, Receive Job

Even the herd at paradox corral starts getting worried.

I see I was a bit late to the revelation, should have known it would have been spotted already. I saw it on the Steam forums after checking on some old threads for how many were still owners.

"Judging from the topics we can view and the ownership icons that remain, the deleted megathread circa the announcement would have seen the greatest mouse ethnic cleansing since An American Tail."

What was that thing up to? 3000 pages?

 

[purupuru]

Here's hoping that Mitsoda turn out to be a "rapist" as well and they are forced to cancel this shitshow altogether.

 

[Fowyr]

There needs be a word for like the opposite of a glow up.

Nigredo or

 

[Silverfish]

Here's hoping that Mitsoda turn out to be a "rapist" as well and they are forced to cancel this shitshow altogether.

His gloves are soaked in chloroform.

 

[purupuru]

Here's hoping that Mitsoda turn out to be a "rapist" as well and they are forced to cancel this shitshow altogether.

seduce him, take one for the team

Tempting idea but sadly it wouldn't work, won't fit well in the "cishet=evil" narrative.
But wait, maybe he will get his job back for the sake of being so aggressively gay. Interesting...

 

[Flying Dutchman]

There needs be a word for like the opposite of a glow up. I don't know what it would be but this game is way it.

Sailor Woedica/Kate, being negative?!

The end is nigh.

Yep, that's her.

She is currently out of a job and it would be great if Hardsuit Labs hired her. That would be like the cherry on top of this train wreck. :D

I'd consider donating to a Kickstarter to make that happen - and then buy more popcorn.

Scheurle definitely has strong opinions for who games are made for, and we're likely not on that list.

 

[Caim]

Well, with Vampire getting Bloodlines and Werewolf getting Earthblood, what about the other lines getting their own games?

- I already proposed a Mass Effect-style RPG for Mage where you play a Void Engineer traversing the absolutely insane cosmology of Mage: The Ascension.
- Wraith can crib off of Disco Elysium, except spookier and you get to argue with your Shadow instead. Or make it a plot point you have several Shadows inside of you and you need to figure out what's up before you end up getting Soulforged.
- Changeling is pretty much The Spiderwick Chronicles on PCP. Maybe with a bit of Silent Hill if you must.
- Hunter has had several games so far, none of which get the point of Hunter. So it's either embracing the idea of Hunter that you're a crazy person with superpowers on the hunt for monsters, OR you embrace Hunter's insane artwork, where a 80's action hero looking dude rips out a zombie'sh heart while staking another one in the back of the head.
- Mummy is a bit more difficult. You were chosen to have another lease at life, but you're now in service to the concept of divine justice which needs you to go out and stop the evils of the Serpent. So I guess a bit like Deus Ex except the GEP Gun you can start the game with has a blast radius big enough to level a town.
- Demon would get something more in line with Bloodlines, except there's more of a focus on how you interact with your Thralls. Sure, you can make their wishes come true, but is it the right thing to do? Would you rather actually help someone for the easy way to power, or will you help them become a better person by giving them what they actually need to do so even though that gives you less of a direct increase in power?
- Orpheus could make for a straight adventure game.

And that's not even going into all the CofD stuff out there...

 

[eilef]

So, accusations against Avellone now definitely were a power grab.

I mean they were not hiding it from the start. They wanted to remove Avellone so "new and talented" writers could come in and take the job. Now we see how well it pays off. He signed his sentence when he argued that games should be apolitical. It was over then.

 

[Delterius]

removed from what avellone was the freelancer's equivalent of a hobo

 

[Eli_Havelock]

FYI: she lost her job at ArenaNet because of a restructuring that laid of 100+ people...

Companies keep people they want to keep. B and C-listers are usually on the chopping block.

...so she's not the woman who got the boot for going on about white supremacy.

White Supremacy Woman: Is this her? https://twitter.com/Gaohmee

The two are friends, it turns out. I wasn't aware Scheurle got the boot for white supremacy, I thought she got fired because she was unstable and not doing any work because she was away protesting all the time.

What a surprise that her recent tweets are all about going through interviews until she finds an employer desperate enough to pay her to put up with her shit.

 

[mondblut]

FYI: she lost her job at ArenaNet because of a restructuring that laid of 100+ people...

Companies keep people they want to keep. B and C-listers are usually on the chopping block.

...so she's not the woman who got the boot for going on about white supremacy.

White Supremacy Woman: Is this her? https://twitter.com/Gaohmee

The two are friends, it turns out. I wasn't aware Scheurle got the boot for white supremacy, I thought she got fired because she was unstable and not doing any work because she was away protesting all the time.

What a surprise that her recent tweets are all about going through interviews until she finds an employer desperate enough to pay her to put up with her shit.

If her twats and responses are anything to go by, the entire industry is lining up to offer her a cushy job. And anybody interviewing her must be mortified of the consequences of turning this brave revolutionary away.

That she didn't catch a stray bullet during the POZZ mostly peaceful protests will haunt this industry for decades.

 

[mondblut]

Here's hoping that Mitsoda turn out to be a "rapist" as well and they are forced to cancel this shitshow altogether.

Why do you hate fun? We want a trainwreck of apocalyptic proportions, one that would forever taint the CV of everyone involved.

Bring us Daikatana: Underworld Ascendant edition.

 

[Jenkem]

There needs be a word for like the opposite of a glow up. I don't know what it would be but this game is way it.

welcome






















to a world




























of DARKNESS

Spoiler

 

[Gordian Nutt]

Sad news with Mitsoda officially getting replaced

Big shoes to fill, she seems to have small feet

 

[jackofshadows]

Imagine Mitsoda's face reading the replacement news and some twats around it.

 

[Semiurge]

what if coronavirus was invented by the vampire aristocracy in order to normalize masks and accomodate the "i was embraced with non retractable fangs" lobby

this is from the things i'd post if this thread didn't give me depression

It's only the test run. Next time China will release a real killer and be the sole country with a vaccine.

They all have pronouns in bio which is, frankly, very encouraging.

Imagine what it must be like for the only employee without them in his/her bio. This is the equivalent of wearing flair in Office Space.

Bonus question: How have these degenerate, anxiety ridden, incapable for life, literally retarded pronoun clowns grabbed entire Western political, scientific, financial and art elite by the balls? Me from only 5 years ago if time traveled to present would be: WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING TO WORLD????

They were all sleeper agents, now awakened. The products of the last two decade's campus propaganda.

Maybe we are not the honest ones. How many gud classics, operas, theater plays etc. were published during Weimar Republic or Fall of Rome? Current culture simply won't allow any big profile incline, except by still non-cucked parts of World. Do you realise that for past 5 years there have been: ZERO gud.tm RPG studios from USA. Let me repeat their number: Z E R O

We need to treat this mass insanity with spilling of blood, letting bad blood out. Medieval Doctor Style

Try this for a size - maybe RPG's just aren't as bankable now as they once were. There's a time for everything, the time for digital RPG's might be over for good.

You know what? FUCK! I'll just say it! These retarded snowflakes need actual dictatorship.tm for them to actually be oppressed and improve their writing by going throu real life struggles. I'll be happy to foster for them that stimulating environment /endrant

Writing was ×3000 better during Cold War

They need tight cubicles with this



playing through loudspeakers, with the requirement of singing along.

 

[Eli_Havelock]

If her twats and responses are anything to go by, the entire industry is lining up to offer her a cushy job. And anybody interviewing her must be mortified of the consequences of turning this brave revolutionary away.

That she didn't catch a stray bullet during the POZZ mostly peaceful protests will haunt this industry for decades.

Given her association with Wallshagger there as another ex-ArenaNet politician pretending to gamedev, they seem more the type to wander out onto an interstate when people are yelling "CAR!" several times, spin around in circles trying to get it into frame, then end up getting hit by the announced car. Reference, and for extra fun, from the POV of the streamer herself when she was (a)live.

Imagine Mitsoda's face reading the replacement news and some twats around it.

I really want to know why Paradox torpedoed their entire publicity campaign of Mitsoda being everything and a sign of the second coming of Bloodlines, only to replace the lead role with ArenaNet / BioWare layoff bait.

 

[Semiurge]

I really want to know why Paradox torpedoed their entire publicity campaign of Mitsoda being everything and a sign of the second coming of Bloodlines, only to replace the lead role with ArenaNet / BioWare layoff bait.

He must have pissed them of royally.

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Given her association with Wallshagger there as another ex-ArenaNet politician pretending to gamedev, they seem more the type to wander out onto an interstate when people are yelling "CAR!" several times, spin around in circles trying to get it into frame, then end up getting hit by the announced car. Reference, and for extra fun, from the POV of the streamer herself when she was (a)live.

I feel like she is the type to do this, and she HAS done it, except in her case, people were shouting "PROJECT?" "PROJECT?" "WORK?" to her several times while she was ignoring her project until it got canceled and she got hit with a pink slip and moving boxes.

The fact she was complaining and whining on Twitter about it was just sad. Do the work you're hired for, already - your stances-for-the-common-good-as-long-as-it-is-your-common-good-and-no-one-elses you can do in your own time with the rest of your dangerhair friends.

I really want to know why Paradox torpedoed their entire publicity campaign of Mitsoda being everything and a sign of the second coming of Bloodlines, only to replace the lead role with ArenaNet / BioWare layoff bait.

Honestly, since there was no upside apparent, my suspicion (skip to #8 for most likely the real reason):

1. Mitsoda dug in his heels about something PDX or Hardsuit wanted to change, perhaps more than once.
2. Mitsoda is rumored not to like editing his own work as far back as Troika - but edits are necessary.
3. The voice acting budget was probably pretty high, so if nothing is cut, that could be a problem.
4. Mitsoda and Cluney were allies-in-development and together, pushed back against changes. If the game is late and changes are needed to downscale it, this could be a problem.
5. Mitsoda is rumored to be not easy to work with.
6. Mitsoda is rumored to be less reactive with narrative and favors more "you must see this" path story exposure than maybe Paradox wanted for an RPG.
7. Paradox probably got localization costs back and said, "some of this has to go, please, we beg you."
8. Hardsuit and Paradox are idiots and don't understand how to make a sequel to Bloodlines 1... but they do know what the smell of money burning smells like and they don't like it.
Bonus Edit: Turns out Samantha Wallbanger is also friends with one of the designers on the project, the delightful cunt Erik Waaaaaananen who has been there less than a year. Perhaps he needed company and nepotism filled that desire nicely, players be damned.

Overall, big mistake to hype Mitsoda, fire Mitsoda. Both studios don't have anyone else to blame except themselves - Hardsuit got what they wanted, they used Mitsoda to secure the project (and PDX bought a good chunk of the company, too) and they thought he became more of a liability than a help, then the axe falls.

 

[Terra]

What a shitshow. No Codex newspost to commemorate Mitsoda getting replaced with some sjw hack, it's becoming a trend.

 

[karoliner]

they were scared of avellone powergrabing them, taking them to the hotel room and then leaving after getting turned down