World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[donmaslanoz14]

Yeah, same thing happened with Dead Island 2. Never got to see the light of the day. Quite a shame.

Yeah, but same thing happened to Prey 2, which ended pretty well.

 

[Tacgnol]

Hardsuit getting cut out. Smells like someone missed an important milestone.

I can't wait for the Hardsuit abortion post-mortem. Get Annie VanderMeer to make a VN about it.

Paradox probably hired them in the first place cos they were cheap. I bet they're regretting that short term cost saving right now.

 

[Jenkem]

Also they are likely doing this because they saw what happened to CDPR and didn't want to make the same mistake.

 

[True Ukrainian]

The delay definitely sucks but at least it's still releasing before ELEX 2 or Elden Ring.

There is no new release date.

Bloodlines 2 might still come out after ELEX 2. ELEX 2 has something Bloodlines 2 does not have. A developer.

 

[fantadomat]

Maybe they'll give it to HBS uwu.

HBS is hiring a new studio operations manager.

LoL jenk what happened with not pozze studio?

 

[True Ukrainian]

Hardsuit getting cut out. Smells like someone missed an important milestone.

I can't wait for the Hardsuit abortion post-mortem. Get Annie VanderMeer to make a VN about it.

Paradox probably hired them in the first place cos they were cheap. I bet they're regretting that short term cost saving right now.

Paradox owns part of Hardsuit.

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Also they are likely doing this because they saw what happened to CDPR and didn't want to make the same mistake.

CDPR should not be the pass that explains and waves away the true problems with this whole scenario.

Paradox and Hardsuit probably were delighted by CDPR and the excuses from CP that gave them some breathing room from their own idiocy and failed pipelines.

The game doesn't need polish, it sounds like it's going to need much, more more to ship... and by "need more" I mean "competent developer."

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Paradox owns part of Hardsuit.

This fact is also another reason why Paradox are a bumbling collection of idiots.

Bet they wish they hadn't bought part of Hardsuit now.

On the plus side, Paradox can always use Hardsuit as an outsourcer with no creative and game development ideas, they just help other games instead until they grow up and learn game development a few decades from now.

 

[Jenkem]

Also they are likely doing this because they saw what happened to CDPR and didn't want to make the same mistake.

CDPR should not be the pass that explains and waves away the true problems with this whole scenario.

Paradox and Hardsuit probably were delighted by CDPR and the excuses from CP that gave them some breathing room from their own idiocy and failed pipelines.

The game doesn't need polish, it sounds like it's going to need much, more more to ship... and by "need more" I mean "competent developer."

My point is that they didn't want to make the same mistake by a) working on something that is not progressing as they'd like and b) releasing it in such a messy state, both of which would be the end result if they kept working with Hardsuit Labs. They are doing the exact opposite of "delighted by CDPR and the excuses from CP that gave them some breathing room from their own idiocy and failed pipelines." Also there is nothing about the game "just needing more polish" what are you talking about?

 

[thesheeep]

Maybe now we'll get some more details about all the crap that obviously went wrong over at Hardsuit Labs.

Or... well, more likely, we won't.

 

[Xelocix]

https://www.bloodlines2.com/en/bloodlines-2-development-update

BLOODLINES 2 DEVELOPMENT UPDATE

Good morning, everyone

As you have noticed, we’ve been keeping pretty quiet for a while. With this in mind, the first piece of news we have for you is to confirm that Bloodlines 2 is still in development.

Secondly, we have made the hard decision that Hardsuit Labs will no longer be leading the development of Bloodlines 2 - which also means that we will not be releasing in 2021 as previously planned. Since we cannot at this time communicate a new release date, we've also decided to stop accepting pre-orders for the time being.

This game is very important to us and it has been an ambitious project from the very start. In order to meet our goals for it, we’ve come to the conclusion that a change is needed and, as a result, more development time is required.

We’d like to take this opportunity to honor Hardsuit Labs for their efforts and thank them for their hard work on the project. The studio has done a tremendous job in laying the foundations for the game and we hope that you, the community, will also appreciate their contribution to Bloodlines 2.

We’re thankful for your continuous support throughout the game’s development. We understand how important this is to you, and we’d love to share more with you. As soon as we can, we’ll let you know what the future development team of Bloodlines 2 will look like.

I hope to fuck this means they'll be re-doing everything from combat to worldbuilding. All of the gameplay footage we got from Hardsuit looked like boring mash LMB2win trash with disciplines just thrown in as an afterthought, and the overly modern locations had absolutely none of the neo-gothic aesthetic VTM:B is known for. I severely doubt it'll happen but if Paradox is handing development over to another studio I'm keeping my fingers crossed that they hire a new art director and dedicate all of their time to fixing combat until the devs understand what makes the world of VTM feel like VTM and adjust the setting accordingly.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Well this looks better and better.

 

[Sarkile]

According to their End of Year report Paradox has already started working with another studio. They don't name who though, could be Hardsuit.

Edit: My bad, meant HBS. Was going to sleep.

 

[TheDiceMustRoll]

i read there was a leaker on here who predicted this. who

 

[Fedora Master]

Clearly the game should be handled by Larian.

 

[Daedalos]

Trainwreck.

Look how they butchered my boy :/

 

[Zed]

What a failure of a game dev studio.

 

[Infinitron]

Bloodlines 2 forums are now read-only: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/bloodlines-2-development-update.1458755/

Additionally, for the time being, we'll be making this forum read-only for the foreseeable future as we continue development and will reopen things again in the future. For now, we'll be over on Discord and you are welcome to join the community there: https://discord.gg/bloodlines2

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Maybe now we'll get some more details about all the crap that obviously went wrong over at Hardsuit Labs.

Or... well, more likely, we won't.

I don't think even Hardsuit knows what went wrong.

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't know the news.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Swecucks at paradox actually thought they could make a big dick blockbuster RPG on a shoestring, and with a shovelware studio developing it.

Utterly delusional.

 

[Tacgnol]

Hardsuit getting cut out. Smells like someone missed an important milestone.

I can't wait for the Hardsuit abortion post-mortem. Get Annie VanderMeer to make a VN about it.

Paradox probably hired them in the first place cos they were cheap. I bet they're regretting that short term cost saving right now.

Paradox owns part of Hardsuit.

That just adds to my assumption that Hardsuit were the cheapest option.

 

[thesheeep]

Swecucks at paradox actually thought they could make a big dick blockbuster RPG on a shoestring, and with a shovelware studio developing it.

Utterly delusional.

They did have at least some of the right people working with them - until they fired them all over either nonsensical allegations or who-knows-why-they-let-go-Mitsoda.

 

[Justicar]

Swecucks at paradox actually thought they could make a big dick blockbuster RPG on a shoestring, and with a shovelware studio developing it.

Utterly delusional.

GOTY

 

[Jenkem]

when this game comes out to near universal acclaim you shall be ashamed of your words and deeds.

 

[Mefi]

That just adds to my assumption that Hardsuit were the cheapest option.

Think Hardsuit were just the ones to pitch it as they had Mitsoda onboard for the sequel already. Paradox bought part of the company on the back of that. And the reason they did either was because Fred never saw an 80s IP for sale he could turn down. It'll end up being written off with the rest of them if it's as bad as it looks.