World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Delterius]

man I remember when I was like, 'I wish cdpr was making this game instead'

What is the difference? They both will be done in 10 years and both are extremely buggy on release and will cost shit ton of money to their publishers.

the joke is that every game i look forward to dies

 

[fantadomat]

man I remember when I was like, 'I wish cdpr was making this game instead'

What is the difference? They both will be done in 10 years and both are extremely buggy on release and will cost shit ton of money to their publishers.

the joke is that every game i look forward to dies

Hmmm then look forward to star citizen,it had outlived most of its initial backers! No way it could die one day!

 

[Delterius]

man I remember when I was like, 'I wish cdpr was making this game instead'

What is the difference? They both will be done in 10 years and both are extremely buggy on release and will cost shit ton of money to their publishers.

the joke is that every game i look forward to dies

Hmmm then look forward to star citizen,it had outlived most of its initial backers! No way it could die one day!

no way i'm not going to the same circle of hell as chris roberts once all those backers start killing themselves

 

[fantadomat]

man I remember when I was like, 'I wish cdpr was making this game instead'

What is the difference? They both will be done in 10 years and both are extremely buggy on release and will cost shit ton of money to their publishers.

the joke is that every game i look forward to dies

Hmmm then look forward to star citizen,it had outlived most of its initial backers! No way it could die one day!

no way i'm not going to the same circle of hell as chris roberts once all those backers start killing themselves

 

[Semiurge]

god damn i don't even want vtmb2 to suck, i don't want it to be another fucking tortanic, i just wanted another sleazy dingy paranormal deus ex-y rpg with vampire politics. why the fuck does Current Year have to be so cruel???

"Sleazy", what's that? It's not in the revised 2021 edition of 'Newspeak'. No wait, there's a small footnote in "Exploitative Cis-Scum".

 

[Eli_Havelock]

 

[Fenix]

The problem is that the project is obviously in development hell rather than prolonged development.
More time never fixes a project in development hell.

Can you elaborate on the differences? And how do you get in and out of dev hell? I know what it roughly is, Duke Nukem Forever took the titular amount of time to make and was mediocre for time and costs but I would like to have more examples.

Biggest difference is that development hell involves the project changing hands or significant changes in the key developer positions or management structure, typically after deadlines have already been missed.
Basically the only news about vtmb2 for a while now has involved someone (usually important) being fired or more delays.

The open positions they're hiring for are also a good sign that this game was never anywhere near being finished despite wanting a March 2020 release date. Combined with a lack of any real information(how much have they released about the actual RPG side of the game, really?) means it's looking pretty grim.

This game was supposed to release almost a year ago. Have they even shown us a character sheet yet? Do we know anything about character stats or abilities?

[edit]
oh yeah, they also brought in an outside consultant to help push the game out the door didn't they?

I feel teh shadow of VAPORWARE above the thread ahah.

P.S. This thread suddenly generates a lot of fun.

 

[Fedora Master]

If the game never materializes it would be for the best. The worst possible outcome is a completely fucked up release.
The chance of this being in any way worthwhile have become zero either way.

 

[thesheeep]

The chance of this being in any way worthwhile have become zero either way.

Maybe worthwhile to make fun of?

Even if it hurts?

 

[True Ukrainian]

There's another WoD of darkness RPG in the works though. Vampire Swansong. It's probably going to be released earlier than Bloodlines 2 at this rate.

 

[Latelistener]

Judging by The Council, it will be a lot better too.

I've played only the first episode and it was great, but I heard the later episodes became worse.

The only problem is that it's in Epic's jail, which means it won't exist until release + 1 year after that (still earlier than Bloodlines 2 though).

 

[Flying Dutchman]

After Roguey (I think?) pointed out the Lead Designer posting had gone from Hardsuit, I did a search on LinkedIn to see if there was a new Lead Designer...

No luck from a casual search, but as a bonus, LinkedIn shows you who used to work at Hardsuit, which would make for a fun complilation aside from the already-known names.

 

[Eli_Havelock]

Just give it a week or two and HSL will be looking for a replacement.

 

[True Ukrainian]

Judging by The Council, it will be a lot better too.

I've played only the first episode and it was great, but I heard the later episodes became worse.

The only problem is that it's in Epic's jail, which means it won't exist until release + 1 year after that (still earlier than Bloodlines 2 though).

Swansong apparently references events in Bloodlines 2, so it's meant to be a follow up. At least originally.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Judging by The Council, it will be a lot better too.

I've played only the first episode and it was great, but I heard the later episodes became worse.

The only problem is that it's in Epic's jail, which means it won't exist until release + 1 year after that (still earlier than Bloodlines 2 though).

Swansong apparently references events in Bloodlines 2, so it's meant to be a follow up. At least originally.

So they're making a sequel to a sequel. One that didn't release yet and probably won't. I'm sorry, is this real life? I think I got off at the wrong station.

 

[Roguey]

So they're making a sequel to a sequel. One that didn't release yet and probably won't. I'm sorry, is this real life? I think I got off at the wrong station.

Swansong takes place on the other side of the country. They said there would be easter egg references, that's all.

 

[Delterius]

- Did you hear about all the things that happened in Seattle?

- Of course bro I'd give anything to be part of those events we can't describe for some reason.

- Yeah.

 

[True Ukrainian]

Bloodlines 2 will be the follow up to its follow up, Swansong.

 

[fantadomat]

- Did you hear about all the things that happened in Seattle?

- Of course bro I'd give anything to be part of those events we can't describe for some reason.

- Yeah.

Well....the best chance for this game getting released is if it gets looted during the mostly peaceful gathering with molotovs.

 

[Jenkem]

fucking naysayers make me SICK

 

[True Ukrainian]

fucking naysayers make me SICK

Have you refunded your pre-order yet?

 

[Jenkem]

 

[fantadomat]

If you don't refund,trump will lose in 2028!

 

[Ismaul]

fucking naysayers make me SICK

stop fucking them

rapist

 

[Jenkem]

I said the game will be great and put my money where my mouth is. Sad others can't do the same.

If I'm wrong, I'm out $12 and get a janky game. You guys paid $60 for Cyberpunk.