World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 - VTMB sequel from The Chinese Room - coming Fall 2024

[Roguey]

Also, how do they manage to make their characters look so stiff? Yeah, yeah, vampire/undead jokes ahoy, but put that shit aside and consider the fact how well the original Bloodlines face animations - not to mention the stellar voice acting - holds up to the test of time. What they show here in this sneak peak is just absolutely horrible, there's no emotion, no inflection, might as well have a fucking slideshow at this point.

Bloodlines had Faceposer, this has FaceFX which requires a lot of manual work to look decent (work that hasn't been done yet, no sense in making anything look finished this early).

 

[Tyranicon]

A story in two posts

 

[Storyfag]

Now that the main character is Armenian are we going to have any references to the genocide, or are they going to neglect that bit of info to prevent the kebabs from banning the game.

Ehh, why would a vampire give a shit about such things? Chances are the Elder was already asleep in Seattle when it was happening in Armenia.

 

[Herumor]

Bloodlines had Faceposer, this has FaceFX which requires a lot of manual work to look decent (work that hasn't been done yet, no sense in making anything look finished this early).

I figured they'd want to make their stuff look good. But let's look past the visual stuff for now then - what about the voice acting? It really fell flat.

 

[Wesp5]

Wesp5 and Paradox both releasing YouTube videos within the same hour....
Who's trying to cover up who's blunder here?

When I released my video I didn't know about the Paradox one !

 

[Roguey]

I figured they'd want to make their stuff look good. But let's look past the visual stuff for now then - what about the voice acting? It really fell flat.

Seemed fine to me though the timing felt off (quickly-put-together rough edit). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[jackofshadows]

How in the hell does the first game still have better lip sync than this?

That was a finished game, this isn't.

That would be fair if this was some leak but they themselves decided to show this. I'm 100% sure it'll be pretty much the same on release.

 

[Roguey]

That would be fair if this was some leak but they themselves decided to show this. I'm 100% sure it'll be pretty much the same on release.

They showed this because there were a bunch of crybabies complaining about how they turned it into an action game. The big "POST ALPHA FOOTAGE" text is there to let you know this isn't final. At least it's not their intention for it to be final. Shit happens.

 

[Caim]

A story in two posts

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Okay, but why interview a Bioware designer for a game by another studio?

 

[jackofshadows]

The big "POST ALPHA FOOTAGE" text is there to let you know this isn't final.

That text has a context of a project which really, really wants to be pushed out the door as soon as possible. Unlike say, non-realistic CDPR's presentations.

 

[jungl]

first one was a action game with basic bioware hub handful of npcs u talk to then progress rinse and repeat. I'm stilling lol at memories of early bloodlines fan patch where they reward and pidgeonholed the player more for stealth which beats the whole purpose of roleplaying a character. It was the trendy thing to do in video games at the time but looking back now its cringe just goes to show fans always have a worse vision then what developers intended.

 

[Nm6k]

Oh God reminding me quite a bit of Fallout 4

 

[Cricket McBangle]

A story in two posts

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Okay, but why interview a Bioware designer for a game by another studio?

He's the Narrative Designer for this game.

 

[DeepOcean]

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Oh..oh... QA tester made writer... ew... I mean, this worked on the past but Bioware QA tester... ew...ew

 

[Tyranicon]

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Apparently Arone Le Bary's former Bioware position was a Narrative Quality Designer., an IP managing position (seem like an abysmal creative managing job).

I wasn't even aware that BioWare needed such niche personnel. This is like something I would expect from bigger franchises like Marvel.

You're telling me that BioWare had something equivalent to a Lore Doctor and still made Dragon Age: Inquisition?

 

[Jaesun]

assamite and lasombra as the 'surprises' would have been my first bets given that many of them joined the cam while gangrel and brujah largely left.

Gangrel and Brujah left the cam in V5?

I'm still a bit out of date with V5,

 

[Harthwain]

Shows you never played the game - if you played as Nosferatu, shit sure as fuck mattered. And if you were a Tremere, you had the Chantry as a haven as well, not to mention a different relationship with the Tremere Primogen and the Gargoyle involved with his sidequest.

The differences were minimal though. You could try to argue that Nosferatu's gameplay was significantly different (and in theory this is true), but the truth is - you could safely walk on the surface and not have to worry too much about normies spotting you, because apparently people are blind as bats. I had to literally bump into them for them to run away in terror. NPCs had a line or two about your looks, but after that it was business as usual. This is nothing compared to the likes of Arcanum.

 

[Jaesun]

Step 1. Be a learning animal.

Step 2. Recognize patterns.

See this:

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And this:

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and this:

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In the hands of modern writers and gamedevs. It's over.

The "Remind him who you are" response I actually liked, That was actually good from a V:tM storytelling response of which you are still selecting your back story. Will have to see how much more this is developed.

 

[Dadd]

Phyre and Wasser

 

[Caim]

assamite and lasombra as the 'surprises' would have been my first bets given that many of them joined the cam while gangrel and brujah largely left.

Gangrel and Brujah left the cam in V5?

I'm still a bit out of date with V5,

Gangrel "left" in Revised edition when one of their Elders stood before the Inner Circle and told them he was packing up his clan and leaving, even though he did not have the authority to do so. As such, many Gangrel actually remained with the Camarilla even though the clan is no longer an official part of the sect.

The Brujah are Vampire V version where during the Conclave of Prague, an event where many high-ranking Camarilla were present to formulate an answer to the Anarch question, Theo Bell strutted up to Hardestadt and asked him if his shotgun tasted like cordite, and blew the elder's head off. Nobody knows why he did it, how the fuck he could kill a man as powerful and paranoid as Hardestadt of whether this was all part of Hardestadt's plot. Because of this many Brujah went Anarch, and because of what happened quite a few were more or less kicked out of the Camarilla.

 

[Wesp5]

assamite and lasombra as the 'surprises' would have been my first bets given that many of them joined the cam while gangrel and brujah largely left.

Gangrel and Brujah left the cam in V5?

I'm still a bit out of date with V5,

Gangrel "left" in Revised edition when one of their Elders stood before the Inner Circle and told them he was packing up his clan and leaving, even though he did not have the authority to do so. As such, many Gangrel actually remained with the Camarilla even though the clan is no longer an official part of the sect.

The Brujah are Vampire V version where during the Conclave of Prague, an event where many high-ranking Camarilla were present to formulate an answer to the Anarch question, Theo Bell strutted up to Hardestadt and asked him if his shotgun tasted like cordite, and blew the elder's head off. Nobody knows why he did it, how the fuck he could kill a man as powerful and paranoid as Hardestadt of whether this was all part of Hardestadt's plot. Because of this many Brujah went Anarch, and because of what happened quite a few were more or less kicked out of the Camarilla.

I am getting the impression that the VtM authors just wanted big changes in the V5 setting without bothering about reasonable explanations...

 

[Semiurge]

Oh my FUCK this looks SO FUCKING BAD. I can't believe I miss everything we saw about Hardsuit's VTMB2 now that we've seen whatever the fuck this Cybershit 2077 knockoff is. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE AN RPG!! Who tf thought it would be a good idea to remove customization beyond like 6 shitty outfits from this game?! I'd take being a thinblood shovelhead over a turkish butchdyke mutt any day of the year. I'm not even going to pirate this shit it looks that bad.

Wait, you can't choose your gender in this? But surely you can still choose your preferred pronoun... right?

 

[Grunker]

There is probably zero hope that whatever character system this will have will offer anything beyond the usual action tripe of one or two unique moves per combat style and then a whole bunch of +5% damage shit, right?

 

[whydoibother]

Who tf thought it would be a good idea to remove customization beyond like 6 shitty outfits from this game?!

 

[whydoibother]

There is probably zero hope that whatever character system this will have will offer anything beyond the usual action tripe of one or two unique moves per combat style and then a whole bunch of +5% damage shit, right?

Given that its developed by a walking simulator studio, I'd rather they just made a bigger, better Swansong
For people who missed it, its basically a visual novel, except it has WASD movement.