Vampyr - vampire action-RPG from Life Is Strange devs

[mildTea]

Except the way they react to their circumstances is akin to how a "liberal" person from the XXI century would. Nobody during this period used these word in such a manner. Tolerance back then wasn't equated with something automatically good and even minorities instinctively recognised the existence of group dynamics, competition and boundries . People viewed the world in a more tribal way (and to a big extent they still do, except for Whites).

Those two instances mimic the language of a modern leftist and even if the portrayed individuals shared similiar grieviences they would respond in a fashion that would reflect the times they were born in.

Let's ask ourselves, why are those two words (tolerance and privilege) used? Because in the present day, through cultural conditioning, the concepts hidden behind these word rose in importance and today have an impact on the majority of people (in the West) when used in a conversation and carry with them a certain level of retorical power. That wouldn't be the case in the setting of this game. These words weren't remotely quite as effective and thus wouldn't be used like that. This is simply taking the modern mindset and implanting it in distant (culturally and morally) historical eras.

You're right about the word choice being modern and "hamfisted" into the game's setting. The question is though, should the game writers study the articles and manifests from that era and change the vocabulary accordingly? I'd love it, because I love historical stuff and am aware of words having different meaning now and then. At the same time I recognize that this requires quite some effort and the game writers would need to include lots of "lore" information in order for the player, who has little knowledge about that era, to be able to understand the dialogues. Again, I'd welcome it, but I can see how this could prove tedious for many.

Imagine every word in the dialogue having a small Tyranny-like hover-on explaing the nuances of its meaning in that time. It can be done in better ways through careful writining and exposition, but that's difficult to execute flawlessly. Better modern vocabulary, than half-baked attempt at historical language.

 

[hivemind]

What the fuck is wrong with you? The degree to which people make non existent connections on this forum is legit worrisome.

We have such sights to show you. Wait until december and then come explore the heart and soul of this website.

 

[Projas]

WTF is going on in here?

SJWs defending their right to be totalitarian asshole jerkwads. The usual

Ah, Codex, the notorious bastion of SJWs.

 

[Cael]

WTF is going on in here?

SJWs defending their right to be totalitarian asshole jerkwads. The usual

Ah, Codex, the notorious bastion of SJWs.

They are eeeeeee-verywhere. Not as numerous, perhaps, but they are around

 

[Storyfag]

Fair enough but I legit can't help but cringe after 100th time some idiot thinks its his sole mission in life to use words SJW when a game comes out. And then I have to either put half the forum on ignore or eventually inevitably have a cringe attack like I did now.

Boy, you're in for a treat once you get GD access

 

[PrettyDeadman]

WTF is going on in here?

SJWs defending their right to be totalitarian asshole jerkwads. The usual

Ah, Codex, the notorious bastion of SJWs.

SJWs can't keep getting away with this!

 

[Barbarian]

Characters expressing opinions on women's rights or class privilege in the times when millions of people where involved in women suffrage movemen or labour movement / communist activities must be SJW injecting their views into videogames...

Why so many alt-righters are such imbeciles? Does youtube educayshun turns a normal person into a morron, or do they watch popular alt-right youtubers because they are already braindead?

Can the main character tell them to shut the fuck up and shove their petty problems up their ass? Because if he can, then I wouldn't complain, but if the MC is forced to listen to their drivel and agree with them without my consent, then boy we have a problem and that's propaganda and preaching at it's best. Why should I agree with them, maybe I don't like black folks, maybe I don't like women rights, why make a roleplaying game if you don't give options for the people to go both ways?

You can kill them and make your london neighborhood both nigger free and sufragette free. Does that count?

 

[anus_pounder]

So from what I've read in the reviews, the dialogue is pretty good and the action is complete shite. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, top 10 best rpgs according to the 'dex or is it a top 5?

 

[PrettyDeadman]

So from what I've read in the reviews, the dialogue is pretty good and the action is complete shite. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, top 10 best rpgs according to the 'dex or is it a top 5?

1. Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
2. Knights of the Chalice
3. Temple of Elemental Evil
4. Might and Magic 3
5. Wizardry 7
6. Vtm:Bloodlines
7. Vampyr
8. Rest of Might & Magic
9. Rest of Wizardrys
10. Jrpg

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

You're right about the word choice being modern and "hamfisted" into the game's setting. The question is though, should the game writers study the articles and manifests from that era and change the vocabulary accordingly?

Yes.

Historical time periods with modern day lexicon will always come off as dumb no matter the message conveyed.

 

[Lacrymas]

Whether it's a silent classic depends on the quality of the content once the game goes into full swing. We all know vampire politicking and interactions can be engaging, let's hope it's that, instead of soppy and melodramatic "woe is me" relationships with mortals.

 

[mildTea]

You're right about the word choice being modern and "hamfisted" into the game's setting. The question is though, should the game writers study the articles and manifests from that era and change the vocabulary accordingly?

Yes.

Historical time periods with modern day lexicon will always come off as dumb no matter the message conveyed.

I agree. But most games don't have budgets to hire historical language experts to write the games in the original language of the chosen era. And most players would fail to understand such writing properly without some sort of aid.

Per complanca, most games can't even pull off multilingual settings with modern languages. Imagine how it would end up if they tried to emulate historical ones.

If you know of any game which handles these things well, let me know.

 

[fantadomat]

Characters expressing opinions on women's rights or class privilege in the times when millions of people where involved in women suffrage movemen or labour movement / communist activities must be SJW injecting their views into videogames...

Why so many alt-righters are such imbeciles? Does youtube educayshun turns a normal person into a morron, or do they watch popular alt-right youtubers because they are already braindead?

I don't have problem with this,i dislike that my playable character just preaches about such shit. From all three options there isn't a "go fuck yourself faggot" option,all of them are politely agreeing and encouraging them.

 

[thesheeep]

Characters expressing opinions on women's rights or class privilege in the times when millions of people where involved in women suffrage movemen or labour movement / communist activities must be SJW injecting their views into videogames...

Why so many alt-righters are such imbeciles? Does youtube educayshun turns a normal person into a morron, or do they watch popular alt-right youtubers because they are already braindead?

I don't have problem with this,i dislike that my playable character just preaches about such shit. From all three options there isn't a "go fuck yourself faggot" option,all of them are politely agreeing and encouraging them.

Well... you can kill them.
I wouldn't call that polite.

What is your problem, though? That you can't roleplay a complete shithead?

Seriously, though, if they allowed you to be in-your-face-negative about these issues in the game, the shitstorm would be epic.
Also, these are the devs of Life Is Strange.
Given those two reasons alone... what did you expect?

 

[fantadomat]

So from what I've read in the reviews, the dialogue is pretty good and the action is complete shite. I guess what I'm trying to ask is, top 10 best rpgs according to the 'dex or is it a top 5?

Top 5 forgettable RPGs. In a month this thread will be dead most likely. The game is decent mediocre AA action RPG,i prefer Demonicon or Technomancer.

 

[fantadomat]

Characters expressing opinions on women's rights or class privilege in the times when millions of people where involved in women suffrage movemen or labour movement / communist activities must be SJW injecting their views into videogames...

Why so many alt-righters are such imbeciles? Does youtube educayshun turns a normal person into a morron, or do they watch popular alt-right youtubers because they are already braindead?

I don't have problem with this,i dislike that my playable character just preaches about such shit. From all three options there isn't a "go fuck yourself faggot" option,all of them are politely agreeing and encouraging them.

Well... you can kill them.
I wouldn't call that polite.

What is your problem, though? That you can't roleplay a complete shithead?

Seriously, though, if they allowed you to be in-your-face-negative about these issues in the game, the shitstorm would be epic.
Also, these are the devs of Life Is Strange.
Given those two reasons alone... what did you expect?

Oh i have no problem at all,also i got what expected. I am just having shit throwing conversation on the codex. Seeing a little bit of butthurt from Pretty and a few other,is amusing. I don't hate the game,it is pretty decent for what it is.

As for those characters....well i punish them worst than death . Still it is shame that games takes away you option of dialogue interactions. It feels that you are just a side character hovering around the protagonist and observing his actions and speeches.

 

[ScrotumBroth]

We have such sights to show you. Wait until december and then come explore the heart and soul of this website.

Boy, you're in for a treat once you get GD access

Anything in particular you two would suggest as initiation for newcomers? Don't hold back.

 

[toro]

We have such sights to show you. Wait until december and then come explore the heart and soul of this website.

Boy, you're in for a treat once you get GD access

Anything in particular you two would suggest as initiation for newcomers? Don't hold back.

Equip the ring.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

You're right about the word choice being modern and "hamfisted" into the game's setting. The question is though, should the game writers study the articles and manifests from that era and change the vocabulary accordingly?

Yes.

Historical time periods with modern day lexicon will always come off as dumb no matter the message conveyed.

I agree. But most games don't have budgets to hire historical language experts to write the games in the original language of the chosen era. And most players would fail to understand such writing properly without some sort of aid.

Per complanca, most games can't even pull off multilingual settings with modern languages. Imagine how it would end up if they tried to emulate historical ones.

If you know of any game which handles these things well, let me know.

Darklands was quite good at going for as 'authentic' an experience as possible when it came to its setting, it probably took a lot of research to try and get knowledge about it all but I know I appreciated the effort especially looking back on it now.

To be honest, most players today are the same people that buy games that are near retail priced, promoted as 'early access', and have lootcrates you can purchase for c0smet1cz. You're right, it would be lost on the current generation.

 

[hivemind]

Anything in particular you two would suggest as initiation for newcomers? Don't hold back.

read the retardo stickies and then just immerse yourself in the ongoing gd culture

 

[Cael]

I agree. But most games don't have budgets to hire historical language experts to write the games in the original language of the chosen era. And most players would fail to understand such writing properly without some sort of aid.

Per complanca, most games can't even pull off multilingual settings with modern languages. Imagine how it would end up if they tried to emulate historical ones.

If you know of any game which handles these things well, let me know.

Modern language isn't the problem. SJW shitfest lingo is. You might as well go full Valley Girl while you are at it. Or Strayan.

 

[Lacrymas]

Now that I think about it, I can't recall any RPG where you can be terrible to gays or even any non-fictional race for being gay or not-white. Strange.

 

[hivemind]

genocide mods for v2

eu3 had ethnic cleansing option in native IIRC

 

[hivemind]

I know those arent RPGs but whatever

 

[norolim]

I actually need to put you on ignore so that I don't implode from cringe.

What the fuck is wrong with you? The degree to which people make non existent connections on this forum is legit worrisome.

??? What the fuck are you on about. This forum is starting to get too weird.

Fair enough but I legit can't help but cringe after 100th time some idiot thinks its his sole mission in life to use words SJW when a game comes out. And then I have to either put half the forum on ignore or eventually inevitably have a cringe attack like I did now.

Need a safe space, newfag? Here.