Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - turn-based Warhammer 40k RPG from Owlcat Games - now with Void Shadows DLC

[REhorror]

Oh wow, she decides to do BIG DIPLOMACY after I choose the cuck option. What a surprise.
https://imgur.com/5Wfd7QU
https://imgur.com/uzdcXL7
https://imgur.com/qvbZiaT

Even tried to smooch them out of a reward:
https://imgur.com/gIa9Yr7

Oh well, and finally she admits she wants to follow me around, this xeno pet is so fucking bi-polar, man.
https://imgur.com/Hhw39n5

 

[Saark]

Yrliet once again doesn't even fucking care about humanity despite all we have done for her stupid ass:

Tbf, why would she. Killing Tervantias is a worthwhile goal, and if it means wiping out the humans on the planet he took shelter from... Frankly, the Imperium has done the same for much less.

While she's still fairly young, she has no reason to feel anything but hatred for humanity. She'd be killed on sight if she wasn't in your retinue, or tortured, or dissected. Not sure in which order. It's actually surprising how friendly she is for an Eldar, which makes it fairly obvious that at least intiially she's really just using you as an uber.

 

[ArchAngel]

Even tried to smooch them out of a reward:
https://imgur.com/gIa9Yr7

Damn, RT begging a reward from lesser races.. how the mighty have fallen. Iconocuck playthrough is pure decline.

On the other hand my Dogmatic ubermench used that cuck elf in dark elf city to get him to the other side of the Webway and then immediately put him in chains as soon as they were safe.

 

[REhorror]

Yrliet once again doesn't even fucking care about humanity despite all we have done for her stupid ass:

Tbf, why would she. Killing Tervantias is a worthwhile goal, and if it means wiping out the humans on the planet he took shelter from... Frankly, the Imperium has done the same for much less.

While she's still fairly young, she has no reason to feel anything but hatred for humanity. She'd be killed on sight if she wasn't in your retinue, or tortured, or dissected. Not sure in which order. It's actually surprising how friendly she is for an Eldar, which makes it fairly obvious that at least intiially she's really just using you as an uber.

No, the Imperium takes Exterminatus very seriously, and doesn't drop Exterminatus willy nilly.
And she has every reasons to worship the ground I walk on because we literally lead her out of Cum-on-rags, theoritically she does help, but without the RT and his party, she would still be a Dark Eldar fuckslave in some dark alley, while being forced to eat her Farseer or something.
The Dark Eldar treats her kind much, much worse than any human does.

Even tried to smooch them out of a reward:
https://imgur.com/gIa9Yr7

Damn, RT begging a reward from lesser races.. how the mighty have fallen. Iconocuck playthrough is pure decline.

On the other hand my Dogmatic ubermench used that cuck elf in dark elf city to get him to the other side of the Webway and then immediately put him in chains as soon as they were safe.

I do too, and this is technically a Dogmatic playthrough, I just don't want to get into conflict with Harlequin, but yes, I'm gonna smooch out everything as I can, as Rogue Trader.

 

[Saark]

No, the Imperium takes Exterminatus very seriously, and doesn't drop Exterminatus willy nilly.

I'm not talking Exterminatus here. Wiping out sectors or entire hives to quell an uprising, heresy or kill a high-priority target is a pretty common practice. Guilt by association is something that even your ships enforcers are practicing, and you frequently get the choice to do so yourself, often with a Dogmatic tag attached to it.

And she has every reasons to worship the ground I walk on because we literally lead her out of Cum-on-rags, theoritically she does help, but without the RT and his party, she would still be a Dark Eldar fuckslave in some dark alley, while being forced to eat her Farseer or something.

Well this is the thing though isn't it? It was her, or her people, if you free the Farseer, that helped you escape Commoragh. So from their perspective, it's you who should be thankful that they opened the webway to let you escape. Without them, you'd still be stuck there. The entire point of her character is that her loyalty to the RT is based on the RTs ability to save or protect Aeldari lives. If you're unable to do so, she has no reason to support you or help you. And she doesn't.

As for being saved in Commoragh... She is grateful, but to you only. There's no reason to be thankful to the entire human race all of a sudden, when basically everybody in your retinue wanted to kill her even before she fell for Marazhai's schemes. She doesn't give a fuck about other humans, and they don't give the slightest fuck about her, so her attitude makes total sense.

You're a less evolved race in their eyes, and every planet, hive or ship you visit, kinda proves that point.

 

[REhorror]

No, the Imperium takes Exterminatus very seriously, and doesn't drop Exterminatus willy nilly.

I'm not talking Exterminatus here. Wiping out sectors or entire hives to quell an uprising, heresy or kill a high-priority target is a pretty common practice. Guilt by association is something that even your ships enforcers are practicing, and you frequently get the choice to do so yourself, often with a Dogmatic tag attached to it.

And she has every reasons to worship the ground I walk on because we literally lead her out of Cum-on-rags, theoritically she does help, but without the RT and his party, she would still be a Dark Eldar fuckslave in some dark alley, while being forced to eat her Farseer or something.

Well this is the thing though isn't it? It was her, or her people, if you free the Farseer, that helped you escape Commoragh. So from their perspective, it's you who should be thankful that they opened the webway to let you escape. Without them, you'd still be stuck there. The entire point of her character is that her loyalty to the RT is based on the RTs ability to save or protect Aeldari lives. If you're unable to do so, she has no reason to support you or help you. And she doesn't.

As for being saved in Commoragh... She is grateful, but to you only. There's no reason to be thankful to the entire human race all of a sudden, when basically everybody in your retinue wanted to kill her even before she fell for Marazhai's schemes. She doesn't give a fuck about other humans, and they don't give the slightest fuck about her, so her attitude makes total sense.

You're a less evolved race in their eyes, and every planet, hive or ship you visit, kinda proves that point.

Except the Eldar in this case wants to wipe out an entire planet, that is extreme even for the Imperium.

And no, that's getting the point wrong tho.
I and my retinue helped her up, we helped rescued the Far-seer, they should be thanking us (and the Farseer did thank us). Saying deeds are repaid is dumb, because she still owns the RT for what happens in Janus if he decides to keep the Eldar.

Also, the retinue only wants to kill her because she betrays them, it gets worse even when Abelard and Cassia speak up because they got hurt really bad, but when you decide to spare her, the gang just drops the deal.

This is unlike her and her people who will decide to kill you the moment you say something they don't like (what if my predecessor is the true culprit?).

In short, humanity again displays more much patience and tolerance for these elves than they do to everyone else.

 

[Saark]

Also, the retinue only wants to kill her because she betrays them, it gets worse even when Abelard and Cassia speak up because they got hurt really bad, but when you decide to spare her, the gang just drops the deal.

That's just factually wrong. Both the banter while you adventure in Chapter 2, as well as the first few encounters with her, make it very clear that Heinrix, Argenta and Cassia all are reviled by her existence, if not want to outright kill her. Cassia in particular is a crazed nutjob who thinks murder and/or torture is the solution to most of the unpleasantness she experiences.

Which is totally understandable, but let's not pretend like they're all chummy with her until she betrays you. The only thing keeping her alive while she's on your ship, is the fact that you chose to accept her into your retinue and she gets to stay on the upper levels. The moment that stops, shes dead. You see as much in one of the missions she gives you, where you are able to save a bunch of Crudarach civilians. They get killed by the ships crew almost immediately, despite you offering them your protection.

Not a single companion in this game has anything positive to say about her at any stage in the game, and that starts way before her betrayal. And that's exactly what I would expect the game to be. As a result, Yrliet has no reason to ever grow fond of anybody but the RT, which she does. But just as you said, the only reason the crew doesnt string her up and kill her after Chapter 2, 3 or at any other point, is because you tell them not to. They're not forgiving her, they're just biding their time. Which is substantiated by some of the ending slides, where at least one of your companions actually goes out of their way to personally kill Yrliet when they learn about her whereabouts.

So yes, of course she's going to side with her people who, despite her being an Outcast and treating her like trash, at least aren't gonna kill her the second the RT dies/gets bored with her.

 

[REhorror]

Also, the retinue only wants to kill her because she betrays them, it gets worse even when Abelard and Cassia speak up because they got hurt really bad, but when you decide to spare her, the gang just drops the deal.

That's just factually wrong. Both the banter while you adventure in Chapter 2, as well as the first few encounters with her, make it very clear that Heinrix, Argenta and Cassia all are reviled by her existence, if not want to outright kill her. Cassia in particular is a crazed nutjob who thinks murder and/or torture is the solution to most of the unpleasantness she experiences.

Which is totally understandable, but let's not pretend like they're all chummy with her until she betrays you. The only thing keeping her alive while she's on your ship, is the fact that you chose to accept her into your retinue and she gets to stay on the upper levels. The moment that stops, shes dead. You see as much in one of the missions she gives you, where you are able to save a bunch of Crudarach civilians. They get killed by the ships crew almost immediately, despite you offering them your protection.

Not a single companion in this game has anything positive to say about her at any stage in the game, and that starts way before her betrayal. And that's exactly what I would expect the game to be. As a result, Yrliet has no reason to ever grow fond of anybody but the RT, which she does. But just as you said, the only reason the crew doesnt string her up and kill her after Chapter 3, is because you told them not to. They're not forgiving her, they're just biding their time. Which is substantiated by some of the ending slides, where at least one of your companions actually goes out of their way to personally kill Yrliet when they learn about her whereabouts.

Heinrix yes (Inquisitor), Argenta yes (Sister of Battle), Cassia no, she literally admires the Eldar colors and be told off by her. Abelard speaks in her defense out of the priviledge of a RT's right to have xeno pet.

So you are actually wrong.

And upper level my ass, the moment she gets into the ship, people wants to fuck her, not kill her. She even uses her sex magic skill to get into my quarters by fooling the enforcers.

When she's in the bridge, she's literally surrounded by enforcers gawking at her.
https://imgur.com/U7vzEq0

This is not to mention the time at Janus, where she's literally treated as a mutant and left served as a bodyguard.

You, the retinue, the crew and humanity try to be very nice to the Eldar.

 

[ArchAngel]

Also, the retinue only wants to kill her because she betrays them, it gets worse even when Abelard and Cassia speak up because they got hurt really bad, but when you decide to spare her, the gang just drops the deal.

That's just factually wrong. Both the banter while you adventure in Chapter 2, as well as the first few encounters with her, make it very clear that Heinrix, Argenta and Cassia all are reviled by her existence, if not want to outright kill her. Cassia in particular is a crazed nutjob who thinks murder and/or torture is the solution to most of the unpleasantness she experiences.

Which is totally understandable, but let's not pretend like they're all chummy with her until she betrays you. The only thing keeping her alive while she's on your ship, is the fact that you chose to accept her into your retinue and she gets to stay on the upper levels. The moment that stops, shes dead. You see as much in one of the missions she gives you, where you are able to save a bunch of Crudarach civilians. They get killed by the ships crew almost immediately, despite you offering them your protection.

Not a single companion in this game has anything positive to say about her at any stage in the game, and that starts way before her betrayal. And that's exactly what I would expect the game to be. As a result, Yrliet has no reason to ever grow fond of anybody but the RT, which she does. But just as you said, the only reason the crew doesnt string her up and kill her after Chapter 3, is because you told them not to. They're not forgiving her, they're just biding their time. Which is substantiated by some of the ending slides, where at least one of your companions actually goes out of their way to personally kill Yrliet when they learn about her whereabouts.

When she's in the bridge, she's literally surrounded by enforcers gawking at her.
https://imgur.com/U7vzEq0

Yea I think those people there have a different duty than you think..

 

[REhorror]

Also, the retinue only wants to kill her because she betrays them, it gets worse even when Abelard and Cassia speak up because they got hurt really bad, but when you decide to spare her, the gang just drops the deal.

That's just factually wrong. Both the banter while you adventure in Chapter 2, as well as the first few encounters with her, make it very clear that Heinrix, Argenta and Cassia all are reviled by her existence, if not want to outright kill her. Cassia in particular is a crazed nutjob who thinks murder and/or torture is the solution to most of the unpleasantness she experiences.

Which is totally understandable, but let's not pretend like they're all chummy with her until she betrays you. The only thing keeping her alive while she's on your ship, is the fact that you chose to accept her into your retinue and she gets to stay on the upper levels. The moment that stops, shes dead. You see as much in one of the missions she gives you, where you are able to save a bunch of Crudarach civilians. They get killed by the ships crew almost immediately, despite you offering them your protection.

Not a single companion in this game has anything positive to say about her at any stage in the game, and that starts way before her betrayal. And that's exactly what I would expect the game to be. As a result, Yrliet has no reason to ever grow fond of anybody but the RT, which she does. But just as you said, the only reason the crew doesnt string her up and kill her after Chapter 3, is because you told them not to. They're not forgiving her, they're just biding their time. Which is substantiated by some of the ending slides, where at least one of your companions actually goes out of their way to personally kill Yrliet when they learn about her whereabouts.

When she's in the bridge, she's literally surrounded by enforcers gawking at her.
https://imgur.com/U7vzEq0

Yea I think those people there have a different duty than you think..

Like what? Eldar smeller?

 

[Saark]

And upper level my ass, the moment she gets into the ship, people wants to fuck her, not kill her. She even uses her sex magic skill to get into my quarters by fooling the enforcers.

Yeah, having random people propose to have sex with you, especially when you consider them lesser evolved beings which would basically equate to beastiality, really is a good thing isn't it? No to mention, it was a singular person, not "people". She's being eyed maliciously by many people, from the Inquisitors you meet, to random nobles, and NPCs who take note of her. The last part is just flat-out idiocy, considering how she feels about even touching a human being.

This is not to mention the time at Janus, where she's literally treated as a mutant and left served as a bodyguard.

And that's a good thing? It's the only reason she's still alive, the fact they are not educated enough to know she's a Xenos. You are being handed the skull of her predecessor, considered a nice trophy to bring out at dinner.

Her kind is being kept in cages to shock or kill for pleasure on Footfall (they don't know they're fake Eldar), and you even have Drukhari and other Xenos in a cage at your RT ceremony on Dargonus. One of your noble houses openly hunts them across the Expanse, so do both your fellow Rogue Traders, and your own predecessor helped destroy a Craftworld, killing billions. Yeah, Humanity truly is being very nice to the Eldar.

Not saying they're not massive cunts, but relations between Eldar and Humanity have always been incredibly fickle, and in most cases entirely hostile. Largely because Humanity has grown to become so incredibly xenophobic, to the point where they kill their own just because they look different due to slight mutations. The Aeldari are an opportunistic race and will happily kill humans if it serves their purpose, but unless they are overcome by Khaine's lust for violence and bloodshed, they are not an inherently aggressive race. Humanity sure as fuck is, and only the nids out-do humanity in terms of how much of a cancer the human race is to the galaxy as a whole.

Yrliet has all the reason to despise every human she encounters, which is something every Eldar child is being taught from the very start, and it's entirely in-character and lore-appropriate for her to act the way she does. It's one of the few things Owlcat did pretty well with this game, getting the setting and character motivations right.

Yrliet manages to build a certain loyalty to the RT, and the RT only, because none of the other companions would ever consider doing so. Like you once again said, someone like Abelard deals with her because you as the RT tell him to do so. There's zero intrinsic motivation to be nice to her. And that's totally fine, just like it's perfectly understandable that Yrliet gladly changes sides when she no longer considers the RT worthy of her loyalty, even if that means siding with her dark kin.

 

[REhorror]

And upper level my ass, the moment she gets into the ship, people wants to fuck her, not kill her. She even uses her sex magic skill to get into my quarters by fooling the enforcers.

Yeah, having random people propose to have sex with you, especially when you consider them lesser evolved beings which would basically equate to beastiality, really is a good thing isn't it? No to mention, it was a singular person, not "people". She's being eyed maliciously by many people, from the Inquisitors you meet, to random nobles, and NPCs who take note of her. The last part is just flat-out idiocy, considering how she feels about even touching a human being.

This is not to mention the time at Janus, where she's literally treated as a mutant and left served as a bodyguard.

And that's a good thing? It's the only reason she's still alive, the fact they are not educated enough to know she's a Xenos. You are being handed the skull of her predecessor, considered a nice trophy to bring out at dinner.

Her kind is being kept in cages to shock or kill for pleasure on Footfall (they don't know they're fake Eldar), and you even have Drukhari and other Xenos in a cage at your RT ceremony on Dargonus. One of your noble houses openly hunts them across the Expanse, so do both your fellow Rogue Traders, and your own predecessor helped destroy a Craftworld, killing billions. Yeah, Humanity truly is being very nice to the Eldar.

Not saying they're not massive cunts, but relations between Eldar and Humanity have always been incredibly fickle, and in most cases entirely hostile. Largely because Humanity has grown to become so incredibly xenophobic, to the point where they kill their own just because they look different due to slight mutations. The Aeldari are an opportunistic race and will happily kill humans if it serves their purpose, but unless they are overcome by Khaine's lust for violence and bloodshed, they are not an inherently aggressive race. Humanity sure as fuck is, and only the nids out-do humanity in terms of how much of a cancer the human race is to the galaxy as a whole.

Yrliet has all the reason to despise every human she encounters, which is something every Eldar child is being taught from the very start, and it's entirely in-character and lore-appropriate for her to act the way she does. It's one of the few things Owlcat did pretty well with this game, getting the setting and character motivations right.

I'm not sure it's a good thing, but certainly better than being hunted, tortured or killed for existence. The craftworld thing is because they themselves convinced a single ship is gonna destroy them, they just enact their own prophecy there.

And no, Yrliet does NOT have to despite every humans she encounters, considering she encounters PLENTY of good ones.

Hell, if she thinks humanity is too bad for her, maybe she should go back to being the Dark Eldar fuckslave and see how her "kin" treats her.

 

[ArchAngel]

Owlcat_Eyler please remind your bosses that patches released on Steam on Thursday only come to consoles on Friday or later while those released on Steam on Friday come to console at best on Saturday which means console players lose one whole weekend day..

 

[Saark]

I'm not sure it's a good thing, but certainly better than being hunted, tortured or killed for existence. The craftworld thing is because they themselves convinced a single ship is gonna destroy them, they just enact their own prophecy there.

And no, Yrliet does NOT have to despite every humans she encounters, considering she encounters PLENTY of good ones.

You continuously fail to understand how large the difference between Eldar and Humans are. They're not just Space Elves, but an entirely different species that just so happens to be bipedal and a similar size/shape. If a talking chimpanzee would propose you to fuck it, you sure as hell would feel just as disgusted by the mere idea, especially for a race with incredibly heightened sensations and emotions that risks drawing the attention of the warp whenever they feel strong emotions about *anything*. It's basically torture, if not worse.

The amount of people who are nice to her out of their own volition can be counted on one hand. The vast majority accept her, because as a "sanctioned xenos pet", most NPCs and companions treat her exactly as that, nothing more. Many treat her far worse, with your companions offering to kill her on multiple occasions despite her being sanctioned.

Hell, if she thinks humanity is too bad for her, maybe she should go back to being the Dark Eldar fuckslave and see how her "kin" treats her.

That's exactly what she's doing in chapter 3, and she returns to her kin in the screenshots you posted. Which you said was stupid and ungrateful from her. What exactly has anybody but the RT done, that she should be grateful for in terms of improving her view of humanity? The fact that Janus fell into heresy and corruption via a Slaanesh worshipping Governor? The fact that one of your top-spies is colluding with the Drukhari? That half your retinue wants to kill her on sight when they meet her? Kiava Gamma or several other Human colonies actively causing chaos insurgencies? Repeated hunting down of refugees and survivors of Crudarach, which are being slaughtered for no reason other than "they're Xenos"? It makes zero sense for her to act any different than other Eldar towards humanity, with the exception being you, the RT, depending on your choices, and that's a good thing.

 

[REhorror]

I'm not sure it's a good thing, but certainly better than being hunted, tortured or killed for existence. The craftworld thing is because they themselves convinced a single ship is gonna destroy them, they just enact their own prophecy there.

And no, Yrliet does NOT have to despite every humans she encounters, considering she encounters PLENTY of good ones.

You continuously fail to understand how large the difference between Eldar and Humans are. They're not just Space Elves, but an entirely different species that just so happens to be bipedal and a similar size/shape. If a talking chimpanzee would propose you to fuck it, you sure as hell would feel just as disgusted by the mere idea, especially for a race with incredibly heightened sensations and emotions that risks drawing the attention of the warp whenever they feel strong emotions about *anything*. It's basically torture, if not worse.

The amount of people who are nice to her out of their own volition can be counted on one hand. The vast majority accept her, because as a "sanctioned xenos pet", most NPCs and companions treat her exactly as that, nothing more. Many treat her far worse, with your companions offering to kill her on multiple occasions despite her being sanctioned.

Hell, if she thinks humanity is too bad for her, maybe she should go back to being the Dark Eldar fuckslave and see how her "kin" treats her.

That's exactly what she's doing in chapter 3, and she returns to her kin in the screenshots you posted. Which you said was stupid and ungrateful from her. What exactly has anybody but the RT done, that she should be grateful for in terms of improving her view of humanity? The fact that Janus fell into heresy and corruption via a Slaanesh worshipping Governor? The fact that one of your top-spies is colluding with the Drukhari? That half your retinue wants to kill her on sight when they meet her? Kiava Gamma or several other Human colonies actively causing chaos insurgencies? Repeated hunting down of refugees and survivors of Crudarach, which are being slaughtered for no reason other than "they're Xenos"? It makes zero sense for her to act any different than other Eldar towards humanity, with the exception being you, the RT, depending on your choices, and that's a good thing.

That's just so wrong.

For an enlightened and wise species, the Eldat must see how humanity is tolerating them instead of treating them like how they treat us.

The eldars in Janus live comfortable lives far away from humans, they only get active because of Slaneeshi corruption, which is again not entirely humanity fault because Slaneesh is tied to the eldar's soul.


There are no visible attempts of humans hunting the survivors of the Craftworld either, most don't even know the Craftworld is a thing. Meanwhile it is the Dark Eldar who go on and capture the survivors.

Yrliet should be grateful that she is helped by humanity at all, and not just help but essentially pick her up at her lowest, save her people and give them a future. She meanwhile has done next to nothing outside some companion event and the post-Winterscales confrontation in Act 4 (which again requires you to be the diplomatic man).

I'd say the Eldar does not deserve humanity really, under a different galaxy they would be wiped out a long time ago.

 

[Saark]

The eldars in Janus live comfortable lives far away from humans, they only get active because of Slaneeshi corruption, which is again not entirely humanity fault because Slaneesh is tied to the eldar's soul.

And who caused that Slaaneshi corruption? Could it have been Vistenza and her ancestors who have been actively corrupting the planet in order to expedite the plant growth to meet the agricultural demand of the protectorate? Or the fact that they are actively practicing heretic rituals and human sacrifice, worshipping Slaanesh? So yeah, of course the Eldar that have lived in recluse eventually decide to act when the humans on said planet are causing the entire planet to fall to corruption, with Flora and Fauna already being affected all over the planet.

There are no visible attempts of humans hunting the survivors of the Craftworld either, most don't even know the Craftworld is a thing. Meanwhile it is the Dark Eldar who go on and capture the survivors.

Yeah, no visible attempts, if we don't count the multiple occurrences of said very thing happening during Yrliet's companion quest. The one where you find empty Aeldari ships, that don't even have weapons, with no Aeldari left alive. Or the one where you have to barter with one of Incendia's captains to let the Aeldari go, only for them to being so scared that they fly off with a broken engine so they die anyway. Or the one where you save a bunch of survivors from a Drukhari attack, only for your very own crew to murder them despite them being under your protection. Yeah, no visible attempts of humans to kill Aeldari at all. There's multiple more beyond that, and pretending like humanity isn't actively hunting any xenos, including Eldar, is just being oblivious to established lore.

Yrliet should be grateful that she is helped by humanity at all, and not just help but essentially pick her up at her lowest, save her people and give them a future.

Why would she be grateful to all of humanity, when it was humans who caused Janus to fall to corruption, humans who initiated the destruction of Crudarach, it is humans who hunt down her kin even when they're being peaceful, and humans who want to kill her just for being a Xenos? She builds the loyalty and a certain respect with those who earn it, i.e. the Rogue Trader, and so do other Eldar. Both Muaran and the guy on Quetza Temer end up calling you Elantach instead of Mon-Keigh, showing their willingness to look at you as more than just a primal beast that destroys everything around them. Which is coincidentally exactly what humanity does, and why the Eldar dislike Humans so much, other than the constant warp insurgencies they cause because they can't keep their emotions in check.

For an enlightened and wise species, the Eldat must see how humanity is tolerating them instead of treating them like how they treat us.

Eldar treat humans pretty well, for their standards of course, and they actually feel that it is "wrong" to kill humans, something they do not feel when they kill other Xenos species. It is why Eldar actually engage in temporary alliances with Humans from time to time, and Eldar and Humans being neighbors doesn't always cause conflict. Humans treat Eldar much worse than the other way around, they're just self-righteous cunts, but they're not wrong to look down on Humanity.

 

[Dayyālu]

I'm gonna reload but these Eldars are sure quick to their death.

Eldars in Rogue Trader are essentially retards. They long for death, every action they take is a desperate suicide move. Yrliet is simply coherent by trying to die in the most stupid way possible. They're simply written like morons. Nocturne (the Harlequin) is borderline less idiotic (being a quest giver) but he can also have a case of Eldar Retardation in Chapter 4.

Also people stop arguing about the nature of the Eldar, Owlcat's writers don't care or don't know and simply wrote them like dumbasses because stupid people write stupid stories. It's all there is to it.

I'm still mildly amused by the fact that my Dogmatic Rogue Trader had Winterscale and the Harlequin come outta nowhere to help him against the Inquisitor, made no sense but gave me a smirk imagining "I'm the worst Imperial ever but at least those retards help".

 

[Saark]

Eldars in Rogue Trader are essentially retards.

Every faction in 40k is, with Nids being the exception I suppose. But beyond that, some races are more retarded than others, and Mankind kinda takes the cake.

 

[SpaceWizardz]

Also people stop arguing about the nature of the Eldar, Owlcat's writers don't care or don't know and simply wrote them like dumbasses because stupid people write stupid stories. It's all there is to it.

Craftworlders are obstinate morons, there's nothing wrong in how Owlcat wrote them.

 

[Dayyālu]

Every faction in 40k is, with Nids being the exception I suppose. But beyond that, some races are more retarded than others, and Mankind kinda takes the cake.

You misunderstand.

The vast majority of the Eldar/Dark Eldar games in Rogue Trader, the game, are written like the most retarded people you can imagine. Their actions are self-destructive at best, idiotic at worst. I don't know if it's the result of the writers being clueless or unintended consequences of the attempts at having a plot, but both of your Eldar companions are drooling morons.Yrliet gets insulted all the time and she's the cause of the entirety of Chapter 3 having the greatest Eldar Woman Moment, Marazhai is a cartoon getting dunked by anyone with half a brain and surviving thanks to your mercy. Barely.

The overall writing for 40k is beyond the point, we're talking specifics.

 

[Mauman]

Also people stop arguing about the nature of the Eldar, Owlcat's writers don't care or don't know and simply wrote them like dumbasses because stupid people write stupid stories. It's all there is to it.

Craftworlders are obstinate morons, there's nothing wrong in how Owlcat wrote them.

Yeah, if anything, I'm shocked at how right they got the Eldar.

 

[Tyranicon]

The Dark Eldar treats her kind much, much worse than any human does.

You're probably thinking of Warhammer Fantasy, where the elven factions hate each other intensely. They rolled that back in 40k years ago, and in the modern lore the eldar actually get along fairly easy (even if there is a spot of torture along the way).

It's not uncommon for young craftworld eldar to become a space pirate -> take a brief decades-long vacation in Commorragh, fight in some pits, bang some emo deldar, and then come back.

The new eldar dead god faction is explicitly a mix of the two, because GW didn't learn from End Times at all.

This is why it's best to shoot them on sight.

The vast majority of the Eldar/Dark Eldar games in Rogue Trader, the game, are written like the most retarded people you can imagine.

This is how they've always been, tbh.

The Eldar trope is literally "We're so old and smart and elvish, you know nothing mere human."

Proceeds to then do the stupidest thing imaginable because "reasons."

 

[Space Satan]

 

[REhorror]

The Dark Eldar treats her kind much, much worse than any human does.

You're probably thinking of Warhammer Fantasy, where the elven factions hate each other intensely. They rolled that back in 40k years ago, and in the modern lore the eldar actually get along fairly easy (even if there is a spot of torture along the way).

It's not uncommon for young craftworld eldar to become a space pirate -> take a brief decades-long vacation in Commorragh, fight in some pits, bang some emo deldar, and then come back.

The new eldar dead god faction is explicitly a mix of the two, because GW didn't learn from End Times at all.

This is why it's best to shoot them on sight.

The vast majority of the Eldar/Dark Eldar games in Rogue Trader, the game, are written like the most retarded people you can imagine.

This is how they've always been, tbh.

The Eldar trope is literally "We're so old and smart and elvish, you know nothing mere human."

Proceeds to then do the stupidest thing imaginable because "reasons."

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I am talking about this very game man, look at how the Dark Eldar treat the Farseers in Cumonrag vs. How the Eldar enclaves are treated in Janus.

It is night and day!

 

[Donald Gordon Lord]

Lol just trust in the Emprah and double tap every xenos bitch you come across…. save yourself the headache.

Nut tf up Rogue Trader. Sheesh.