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Supermedo

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I'm near the end of Act 4 and if I wasn't committed to my Iconclaust playthrough I would have thrown Yrliet out of the fucking airlock and masscared all her kins for stupid shit they pulled on Act 4.
What stupid shit? Calling reinforcements? I think you can tell them to not call it. In my dogmatic run when I already killed them all on Janus and kept killing them reinforcement did come after the ending.
Wiping out two thirds of the planet, killing millions of civilians to get the homunculus and they failed to kill him anyway, and asking Yrliet if her kin are worth saving after admitting of genociding an entire planet population and she basically said, yeah it is cool man and completely justifiable killing millions of people to get one dangerous guy.
Maybe It touched a nerve :P is like how Israel blow up entire hospital because Hamas is there and Yrliet is liberal who shrug and says Hamas was there.:oops:

In my playthrough I was nice to her arrogant racist ass and tried to rescue her people and avoided fighting and killing the alderai and that the thanks I get.
 

ArchAngel

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I'm near the end of Act 4 and if I wasn't committed to my Iconclaust playthrough I would have thrown Yrliet out of the fucking airlock and masscared all her kins for stupid shit they pulled on Act 4.
What stupid shit? Calling reinforcements? I think you can tell them to not call it. In my dogmatic run when I already killed them all on Janus and kept killing them reinforcement did come after the ending.
Wiping out two thirds of the planet, killing millions of civilians to get the homunculus and they failed to kill him anyway, and asking Yrliet if her kin are worth saving after admitting of genociding an entire planet population and she basically said, yeah it is cool man and completely justifiable killing millions of people to get one dangerous guy.
Maybe It touched a nerve :P is like how Israel blow up entire hospital because Hamas is there and Yrliet is liberal who shrug and says Hamas was there.:oops:

In my playthrough I was nice to her arrogant racist ass and tried to rescue her people and avoided fighting and killing the alderai and that the thanks I get.
Well Homunculus is one of the most dangerous Dark Eldar creatures so it is almost worth it in that world. IoM have done more for less.
 

Supermedo

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I'm near the end of Act 4 and if I wasn't committed to my Iconclaust playthrough I would have thrown Yrliet out of the fucking airlock and masscared all her kins for stupid shit they pulled on Act 4.
What stupid shit? Calling reinforcements? I think you can tell them to not call it. In my dogmatic run when I already killed them all on Janus and kept killing them reinforcement did come after the ending.
Wiping out two thirds of the planet, killing millions of civilians to get the homunculus and they failed to kill him anyway, and asking Yrliet if her kin are worth saving after admitting of genociding an entire planet population and she basically said, yeah it is cool man and completely justifiable killing millions of people to get one dangerous guy.
Maybe It touched a nerve :P is like how Israel blow up entire hospital because Hamas is there and Yrliet is liberal who shrug and says Hamas was there.:oops:

In my playthrough I was nice to her arrogant racist ass and tried to rescue her people and avoided fighting and killing the alderai and that the thanks I get.
Well Homunculus is one of the most dangerous Dark Eldar creatures so it is almost worth it in that world. IoM have done more for less.
I know, I mean Henrix told me to blow up entire planet in Act I, My problem isn't the Alderai in particular even thought their plan was incredibly stupid and display great deal of incompetence because they didn't only fail to achieve their objective but caused them to be hunted down and wiped out.
but more about Yrliet been ungrateful bitch, Always gave her 2cents how Monkey kills their own kind and killing Alderai civilians but have no problem when her people do the same, she is one of the main companions in the game and she was always supportive for Iconclaust decisions in my playthrough.
 

ArchAngel

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I'm near the end of Act 4 and if I wasn't committed to my Iconclaust playthrough I would have thrown Yrliet out of the fucking airlock and masscared all her kins for stupid shit they pulled on Act 4.
What stupid shit? Calling reinforcements? I think you can tell them to not call it. In my dogmatic run when I already killed them all on Janus and kept killing them reinforcement did come after the ending.
Wiping out two thirds of the planet, killing millions of civilians to get the homunculus and they failed to kill him anyway, and asking Yrliet if her kin are worth saving after admitting of genociding an entire planet population and she basically said, yeah it is cool man and completely justifiable killing millions of people to get one dangerous guy.
Maybe It touched a nerve :P is like how Israel blow up entire hospital because Hamas is there and Yrliet is liberal who shrug and says Hamas was there.:oops:

In my playthrough I was nice to her arrogant racist ass and tried to rescue her people and avoided fighting and killing the alderai and that the thanks I get.
Well Homunculus is one of the most dangerous Dark Eldar creatures so it is almost worth it in that world. IoM have done more for less.
I know, I mean Henrix told me to blow up entire planet in Act I, My problem isn't the Alderai in particular even thought their plan was incredibly stupid and display great deal of incompetence because they didn't only fail to achieve their objective but caused them to be hunted down and wiped out.
but more about Yrliet been ungrateful bitch, Always gave her 2cents how Monkey kills their own kind and killing Alderai civilians but have no problem when her people do the same, she is one of the main companions in the game and she was always supportive for Iconclaust decisions in my playthrough.
Nobody ever said Eldar are competent. If they were they would not be a punching bag for all other factions in the galaxy :D
 

Commissar Draco

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Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Divinity: Original Sin 2
I'm near the end of Act 4 and if I wasn't committed to my Iconclaust playthrough I would have thrown Yrliet out of the fucking airlock and masscared all her kins for stupid shit they pulled on Act 4.
What stupid shit? Calling reinforcements? I think you can tell them to not call it. In my dogmatic run when I already killed them all on Janus and kept killing them reinforcement did come after the ending.
Wiping out two thirds of the planet, killing millions of civilians to get the homunculus and they failed to kill him anyway, and asking Yrliet if her kin are worth saving after admitting of genociding an entire planet population and she basically said, yeah it is cool man and completely justifiable killing millions of people to get one dangerous guy.
Maybe It touched a nerve :P is like how Israel blow up entire hospital because Hamas is there and Yrliet is liberal who shrug and says Hamas was there.:oops:

In my playthrough I was nice to her arrogant racist ass and tried to rescue her people and avoided fighting and killing the alderai and that the thanks I get.

Tolerance begets betrayal the only :obviously: option was to save both of those xeno deviants asses from Comoragh and then handle them to Inqusition why purging the rest of enemies of Humanity.

Finished the game with DLCs very few noticed bugs this time the combat still sucks but from art style, music and fidelity to setting the games is wonderful, this time fucked the chick who did Sado-maso for teh Emperor and used NOMOS to create Beast of Emperor, 501 Dogmatic points no heretic left to live except the Caligos but game did not allowed me to kill him except picking ''heretic'' choice of executing man who yelled blood for blood god during fighting and bunch of xenos, wtf otherwise would got perfect score this time.

Can't wait for the DLC with Adeptus Arbites.
 

KeAShizuku

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I'm near the end of Act 4 and if I wasn't committed to my Iconclaust playthrough I would have thrown Yrliet out of the fucking airlock and masscared all her kins for stupid shit they pulled on Act 4.
What stupid shit? Calling reinforcements? I think you can tell them to not call it. In my dogmatic run when I already killed them all on Janus and kept killing them reinforcement did come after the ending.
Wiping out two thirds of the planet, killing millions of civilians to get the homunculus and they failed to kill him anyway, and asking Yrliet if her kin are worth saving after admitting of genociding an entire planet population and she basically said, yeah it is cool man and completely justifiable killing millions of people to get one dangerous guy.
Maybe It touched a nerve :P is like how Israel blow up entire hospital because Hamas is there and Yrliet is liberal who shrug and says Hamas was there.:oops:

In my playthrough I was nice to her arrogant racist ass and tried to rescue her people and avoided fighting and killing the alderai and that the thanks I get.
Well Homunculus is one of the most dangerous Dark Eldar creatures so it is almost worth it in that world. IoM have done more for less.
I know, I mean Henrix told me to blow up entire planet in Act I, My problem isn't the Alderai in particular even thought their plan was incredibly stupid and display great deal of incompetence because they didn't only fail to achieve their objective but caused them to be hunted down and wiped out.
but more about Yrliet been ungrateful bitch, Always gave her 2cents how Monkey kills their own kind and killing Alderai civilians but have no problem when her people do the same, she is one of the main companions in the game and she was always supportive for Iconclaust decisions in my playthrough.
That's a setting problem. Everyone in Warhammer is a stupid, superstitious, racist, petty, ignorant, hypocritical bigot. They all vote emperor because MUH INFLATION/CHAOS
 

Camel

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Tolerance begets betrayal the only :obviously: option was to save both of those xeno deviants asses from Comoragh and then handle them to Inqusition why purging the rest of enemies of Humanity.
Did not used witch after getting Herix, she got Emperor Mercy from my Sister

PS Played as Ministorium priest for added purging and scorching, named him Redeemer of course, death world, warrior, arch militant, the sword in one hand and pistol in other.

Opinion discarded. You didn't execute Idira yourself, leaving that to blessed(and based) Argenta and you didn't play as a comissar.
 

Commissar Draco

Codexia Comrade Colonel Commissar
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Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Divinity: Original Sin 2
Tolerance begets betrayal the only :obviously: option was to save both of those xeno deviants asses from Comoragh and then handle them to Inqusition why purging the rest of enemies of Humanity.
Did not used witch after getting Herix, she got Emperor Mercy from my Sister

PS Played as Ministorium priest for added purging and scorching, named him Redeemer of course, death world, warrior, arch militant, the sword in one hand and pistol in other.

Opinion discarded. You didn't execute Idira yourself, leaving that to blessed(and based) Argenta and you didn't play as a comissar.

Played as Commissar of course and Indira was gift to Inquisition which earned Konstantinos von Valencius the red ring of Inquisition and being invited to join Lord Inquisitor Crusade during which this selfless servant of throne fallen due to Necron snipers fire as silver lining the Henrix proved to be more zealous and puritan Inquisitor anyways. Did not even get this time the Chaos champion fleet invasion so I burned and purged all the Heretics cells.

The Navigator got bad end though I guess you cannot harden her enough if you not romance her pitty.
 

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Guys, I just finished Eurac V after 8 hours of gameplay total. It was my first quest after the tutorial.

I came prepared for this, and yeah, I can confirm that there isn't anything to be impressed with by the combat. So is it the C&C, worldbuilding? Is the setting the only selling point?
 
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Galdred

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
I love the art and lore writing in this game, but just about everything else sucks ass.

Combat system is boring as fuck with way to abilities that rely on stacks of abstract bullshit or endlessly buffing yourself and allies. It's so tedious and makes every combat encounter the same as it incentivizes optimal ability sequence over more immersive aspects like positioning or having a wide variety of different kinds of attacks.

Also I've never been so unexcited to level up in a RPG before. You level up way to often, UI is dogshit and the abilities are so poorly written that it takes you out of the game trying to figure out what they do.

Got bored of this one way before I finished - 6/10 (the setting did it a lot of favours)

That is definitely true about the combat. You are so swamped with conditial abstract abilities that buff something sometimes that I ended up just shooting things waiting for numbers to go up before engaging high value targets (in unfair).

That said, I found ship combat pretty cool, as it is a lot more about positionning and a lot less about using number abilities. It is the first time I like the subsystems in an Owlcat game, so that's something.
The writing is competent and brings the settings to life, but it goes a bit too much in grim derp territory.
 

ga♥

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Yeah so the game is still extremely easy, I started as hard to test the "rebalancing" of the last months, and I had to go unfair on chapter I at Rykad Philia.
So far the only nerf I noticed is Cassia not being able to cast reveal the light on herself, and I think the bonus is a bit lower as well.

Btw I recommend this reshade mod:

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/2
 

Meatbag

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I love the art and lore writing in this game, but just about everything else sucks ass.

Combat system is boring as fuck with way to abilities that rely on stacks of abstract bullshit or endlessly buffing yourself and allies. It's so tedious and makes every combat encounter the same as it incentivizes optimal ability sequence over more immersive aspects like positioning or having a wide variety of different kinds of attacks.

Also I've never been so unexcited to level up in a RPG before. You level up way to often, UI is dogshit and the abilities are so poorly written that it takes you out of the game trying to figure out what they do.

Got bored of this one way before I finished - 6/10 (the setting did it a lot of favours)

That is definitely true about the combat. You are so swamped with conditial abstract abilities that buff something sometimes that I ended up just shooting things waiting for numbers to go up before engaging high value targets (in unfair).

That said, I found ship combat pretty cool, as it is a lot more about positionning and a lot less about using number abilities. It is the first time I like the subsystems in an Owlcat game, so that's something.
The writing is competent and brings the settings to life, but it goes a bit too much in grim derp territory.
Yeah, it always seems to result in combats where I either feel way too overpowered or totally toothless on attack.

I do agree about the ship combat. I was pleasantly surprised by that and would say I enjoyed the ship combat more than any other aspect of gameplay. So simple yet very satisfying when you get the positioning and use of abilities right.

I quite enjoyed most of the fluff writing, especially the party dialogue for companions like Pasqal or Heinrix. Cassia and Jae were a bit cringe though. Some of the side content was pretty sick too, like the demon-possessed ghost ship or the eerie dark hole thingy.
 

Harthwain

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Cassia and Jae were a bit cringe though.
Cassia makes sense (being a sheltered princess). Jae technically has an explanation for the way she acts, but I am not convinced it really suits her trade and the voice actress isn't doing her any favours. She feels like an attempt at female Jack Sparrow (or some other attempt at a romance novel-level rogue-ish space pirate captain), which simply doesn't suit the reality of WH40K for me.
 

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Cassia and Jae were a bit cringe though.
Cassia makes sense (being a sheltered princess). Jae technically has an explanation for the way she acts, but I am not convinced it really suits her trade and the voice actress isn't doing her any favours. She feels like an attempt at female Jack Sparrow (or some other attempt at a romance novel-level rogue-ish space pirate captain), which simply doesn't suit the reality of WH40K for me.
Nothing can be worse than Aeldys in Deadfire.
 

Galdred

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Guys, I just finished Eurac V after 8 hours of gameplay total. It was my first quest after the tutorial.

I came prepared for this, and yeah, I can confirm that there isn't anything to be impressed with by the combat. So is it the C&C, worldbuilding? Is the setting the only selling point?
The worldbuilding through environment art and music is quite great too IMO. It is one of the game that captures 40K best I would say, even though I think it goes a bit too often into grimderp (aka grim stupidity, especially for Eldars).
C&C is also nicely done, but it mostly affects ending slides. I don't think you do come across people whose family you exterminatus-ed or anything like that, and colonies work a bit like in Pathfinder: Kingmaker, in that they have a strong disconnect between things you build/manage, and the way it feels when you visit.

But to me, it is one of the very few games to mix ground and space gameplay well, even though I don't like the ground combat system (but I don't hate it either). They are not strongly integrated (as you cannot board ships in combat for instance, and it is all abstracted out if you get the boarding parties ultimate ability), but very few games managed to do better in the first place.
 
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Harthwain

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even though I think it goes a bit too often into grimderp (aka grim stupidity, especially for Eldars).
I thought this was by design (WH40K not being 100% serious)?
 

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