Wasteland Wasteland 2 Thread - Director's Cut

[WhiteGuts]

I don't think they want to use Kickstarter for each game. The goal is to become self-reliant, "kickstart" the whole studio. Maybe I'm mistaken, though.

 

[Infinitron]

It's $1.5m, not 1.5m units.

I don't think they want to use Kickstarter for each game. The goal is to become self-reliant, "kickstart" the whole studio. Maybe I'm mistaken, though.

This is true for other companies, but not for inXile. Fargo wants to Kickstart every game (although of course that doesn't mean the games will be funded purely from KS)

 

[Infinitron]

IGN review: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09/24/wasteland-2-review

8.4/10

 

[mutonizer]

Especially last peace neg.part has lots of backtracking, I was that close to blew them both into pieces...

Heh, so far, every time I stepped into a new area, I checked around a bit to get what's going on, then inevitably ended up ignoring quests and whatnot and just killing everyone because all these fucks are obviously completely crazy and a threat to everything and everyone. I think the one that gave me the biggest "job well done ranger!" feeling was killing all them crazy indians at Rail Nomad.

Now that I'm in LA, there are some "normal" people here and there, which is really nice compared to the rest of the game so far, but not that many and while I'm still into the "getting to know people" phase right now, I'm pretty sure I'll genocide the crap out of most of the LA area very soon and when I finally meet them choir of crazies killing my ears over the radio, I'll make it real personal.

Being a Ranger's hard work man, so many crazies out there.

 

[Grunker]

Companies are idiots if they do not use Kickstarter for projects like this on a steady basis if the model can hold. Kickstarter is basically a way to set a minimum market price and allow the consumer to pay more than that if he likes. Fargo believes this is the way to keep a medium-sized company like InXile afloat and there's a strong possibility he will be proved right. The internet allows for ways to circumvent the static and inflexible pricing model that regular retailers provide.

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it." Until now, market actors have been beholden to the concept of optimum price - the price where most people will buy at a price high enough to turn a profit. But the optimum price is not efficient - it's too high for some, too low for others. Kickstarter, in a way, is a way to partially negate that concept and ask the consumer "how much would you pay for this product."

 

[Zed]

Companies are idiots if they do not use Kickstarter for projects like this on a steady basis if the model can hold. Kickstarter is basically a way to set a minimum market price and allow the consumer to pay more than that if he likes. Fargo believes this is the way to keep a medium-sized company like InXile afloat and there's a strong possibility he will be proved right. The internet allows for ways to circumvent the static and inflexible pricing model that regular retailers provide.

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it."

the PR and community-building around a Kickstarter isn't too bad either.

 

[Grunker]

Companies are idiots if they do not use Kickstarter for projects like this on a steady basis if the model can hold. Kickstarter is basically a way to set a minimum market price and allow the consumer to pay more than that if he likes. Fargo believes this is the way to keep a medium-sized company like InXile afloat and there's a strong possibility he will be proved right. The internet allows for ways to circumvent the static and inflexible pricing model that regular retailers provide.

"Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it."

the PR and community-building around a Kickstarter isn't too bad either.

True. My point was just about pricing models though (see my edit). We've basically had the same model since the dark ages: auctions for price pressure and retail for optimum price models. Fargo seems to be banking on the fact that Kickstarter can offer an alternative which will allow wealthy consumers to chip in with more cash and thus sustain the development of products that would fail in a classic model of optimum price.

 

[cvv]

Companies are idiots if they do not use Kickstarter for projects like this on a steady basis if the model can hold.

There's a view out there that Kickstarter should be used sparingly since it's a limited pool of money. So big developers with good credit rating should only use it as a last resort and not as a regular business model. Afaik that's what people like Swen Vincke or Dan Vavra think.

 

[DosBuster]

I have hope that one day inXile will become the new Black Isle.

At least Wasteland 2 is better than Descent into Undermountain.

 

[Grunker]

There's a view out there that Kickstarter should be used sparingly since it's a limited pool of money. So big developers with good credit rating should only use it as a last resort and not as a regular business model. Afaik that's what people like Swen Vincke or Dan Vavra think.

I'm not sure that the pool is so limited. It just depends more on goodwill and consumer satisfaction than steady low prices for finished products do.

Meaning these companies are more beholden to their consumers in some ways. That can't be a bad thing. Whether it is sustainable is another matter entirely.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Well, if inXile fucks up Torment they can kickstart Arcanum 2 in 2D with turn-based combat and the Troika guys as leads and I wouldn't give them any more money.

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Ah, who am I kidding?

 

[Blaine]

Turisas just brought something to my attention via Steam chat. I've seen people opining ITT that your rifles, SMGs et al. start to become shitty and useless later on when enemies get ten armor and tons of HP. If true, that's fucked. You already need to spend a huge portion of your skill total on "regular" weapons as-is. There should definitely be AP ammo, magnetic rail guns, and so forth.

I can picture sea and Brother None's response now: "There wasn't time." Four weeks of inXile manpower... or, one modder in an afternoon: an hour altering the standard ammo icons in Photoshop, a few hours brainstorming how the stats should be "balanced," code it up, add to loot tables and/or shopkeeper inventories, and done.

10 armor, beat that Rangers. That's a 10.

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^ Actually, someone needs to a make a mod in which, when an enemy's armor is 10 and you mouse over for their stats, that video pops up in a very small fame and plays the "that's a 10" line.

 

[bonescraper]

I hope InXile will stick to RPGs with unconventional settings. Let Sawyer make those generic fantasy games and tank MMOs... forever. Fitting punishment for being a egomaniac.

 

[DosBuster]

Has anyone here finished the game yet? I'm starting to see posts discussing the ending on Steam and the inXile forums..

EDIT: Also, lol

 

[DosBuster]

Looks like Fargo didn't take their review too well...

 

[Blaine]

 

[Brother None]

Turisas just brought something to my attention via Steam chat. I've seen people opining ITT that your rifles, SMGs et al. start to become shitty and useless later on when enemies get ten armor and tons of HP.

Do they? I've used them straight to the end, pretty much any weapon class except blunt weapons I've played with through the end and have had varying experiences as weapons get tweaked and rebalanced but never found myself thinking an entire weapon class is useless. It's usually more a matter of finding the right weapon and your current weapon being underpowered than the whole weapon class being bad. If you're still using a Tier 3 rifle for the latter half of LA then yeah, you're gonna have a bad time, whereas if you luck onto a

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Proton Axe

early, you might feel like bladed weapons are OP.

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I fucking love that thing one of the best weapons in the game.

 

[Cyberarmy]

whereas if you luck onto a

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Proton Axe

early, you might feel like bladed weapons are OP.

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I fucking love that thing one of the best weapons in the game.

Those things are made of heavens!

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My personal favorite from the first game, my tool for sweet vengeance against scorpitron!

Though I must add, dat Gamma Ray Blaster, I had hard time getting it (wiithout violance that is) but it really pays of.

 

[Blaine]

Do they? I've used them straight to the end, pretty much any weapon class except blunt weapons I've played with through the end and have had varying experiences as weapons get tweaked and rebalanced but never found myself thinking an entire weapon class is useless. It's usually more a matter of finding the right weapon and your current weapon being underpowered than the whole weapon class being bad. If you're still using a Tier 3 rifle for the latter half of LA then yeah, you're gonna have a bad time, whereas if you luck onto a

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Proton Axe

early, you might feel like bladed weapons are OP.

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I fucking love that thing one of the best weapons in the game.

Ah, neat.

There's all sorts of shit flying around, hard to get it all straight.

In other news, I have spilled innocent blood to get at his juicy inventory... I always did that in the Fallouts, too. At least one shopkeeper had to go. Thankfully, he didn't drop $7 junk as is fairly typical.

 

[cvv]

Anyone has figured out that safe in Silo 7? The description says it's some kind of special reinforced one connected to the computer nearby but afaik there isn't any way to open it through any means.

Also what the hell is the password to the safe in Damonta in the Silver Springs building in the room with David's corpse? Another inXile's inside joke for ol' Wasteland 1 players (like the one on the door with Night Terror)?

Things like this bother me bros. They bother me greatly.

 

[undecaf]

Whey... Steam just pulled my copy saying I don't have the rights to play it due to some error in the handling of payment (I downloaded the copy using a Steam key from Ranger Center...).

:D:D

Brother None sea

Do you remember anyone else having this sort of... occurence, and will reactivating the game with the key stick or is there something I need to do?

 

[Brother None]

Whey... Steam just pulled my copy saying I don't have the rights to play it due to some error in the handling of payment (I downloaded the copy using a Steam key from Ranger Center...).

:D:D

Brother None sea

Do you remember anyone else having this and will reactivating the game with the key stick or is there something I need to do?

You likely used the "revoke" option on your Ranger Center account. Yesterday we sent in all Steam keys that were manually revoked by users to Valve for removal from Steam library.

Using a non-revoked key will add it back without any hitch, yes.

 

[undecaf]

Ok, thanks. Everything should be in order then.

 

[kain30]

well, after 44 hours of gameplay i´ve just reached california, goodbye arizona

 

[Branm]

Anyone know whats up with the Night Terror? He keeps following me wanting candy lol. If I give him a ton of it, he goes to sleep and that then seems to be it....

Anyone have any insight?