Weird West: Definitive Edition - top-down immersive sim action-RPG from Arkane founder Raf Colantonio

[markec]

yep, you ran into one element that turned you off and ragequit before even playing, how do you even order a burger?

If it smells like shit and looks like shit Im not going to take a bite to make sure if its shit.

 

[AetherVagrant]

The controls feel like Hotline Miami and are weird for someone expecting an rpg
at least let me tilt the camera to get a perpective on things its hard to tell before battle what cover you can shoot over and what will block it all
Give me Witcher3 side quests that move beyond Daggerfall style -gather 10 roses to get +5 infuence-. All these retarded racist incels reading propoganda into the game, half the enemies are of color, it has dead children all over the place, you slaughter innocent wildlife, you have a HUSBAND not a wife or tranny, and is it so weird that a world in which many of the men died fighting that a certain amount of women picked up their roles because they were all thats left? You didnt ragequit deus ex because Jensen had to be a dude...and his boss was a dude, and the only strong female was a bdsm russian dominatrix, but hey that''s totally realistic and doesnt ruffle my ball hairs


I havent been forced to take hormones or have any gay sex and nobody has mentioned Black Lives Matter yet.

I know very little of this game and seeing all this not so positive comments about the wokeness made me very skeptical of it.

Still I wanted to see a bit of the gameplay to see how bad it really is, I turned on a gameplay video on youtube and the first dialog in game you have is with sheriff who is a black woman.

Well thats it for this game.

yep, you ran into one element that turned you off and ragequit before even playing, how do you even order a burger?

I know very little and I havent played it but not im an expert and going to vomit my opinion --- typical codex

 

[AetherVagrant]

Knights of the Chalice looks like shit, smells like shit
old games look like shit smell like shit
obviously you find plenty of value in shit you just only like huffing your own

 

[Fedora Master]

Okay I get it, 6/10 very convincing but a bit too spergy in the end.

 

[markec]

Knights of the Chalice looks like shit, smells like shit
old games look like shit smell like shit
obviously you find plenty of value in shit you just only like huffing your own

I dont mind bad graphics, I dont mind bad controls, I dont mind bad UI, there are many things I dont mind as long the underlying game is good.

What I do mind is people pushing their degenerate politics into my games.

 

[AetherVagrant]

Knights of the Chalice looks like shit, smells like shit
old games look like shit smell like shit
obviously you find plenty of value in shit you just only like huffing your own

I dont mind bad graphics, I dont mind bad controls, I dont mind bad UI, there are many things I dont mind as long the underlying game is good.

What I do mind is people pushing their degenerate politics into my games.

how is anything about that political? I really dont get it. You have male prostitutes in Planescape, you have giant female orcs in dnd but omg a female sherrif in a town whose men have been killed or kidnapped goodness, hide your wives, hide the children, this is damaging shit. are you really just that stupid and afraid that interacting with female characters in a made up game will make you gay?
just suck a dick and get it over with faggot

 

[Ismaul]

What I do mind is people pushing their degenerate politics into my games.

Do they, though, in Weird West?

Are they preaching an agenda, moralizing, or are there just characters with non-white skin?

 

[kangaxx]

I'm very anti-woke indeed but people are being borderline autistic over this game. I've played 6h and there is no "agenda" as far as I can see? Yes, there are women, blacks and Asians in the game... I wouldn't out that in the class of "degenerate politics".

WOTR, for example, straight away shoves interracial bean flicking in your face and is very "on the nose". This isn't like that.

 

[markec]

What I do mind is people pushing their degenerate politics into my games.

Do they, though, in Weird West?

Are they preaching an agenda, moralizing, or are there just characters with non-white skin?

I have seen several comments and examples of the game being woke, and the first thing you see in the game is black female sheriff.

Look if you dont mind that fine by me you enjoy the game. Me, I sick of the SJWs, woke politics, mandatory diversity and all that shit in my games.

 

[kangaxx]

Fedora Master, have you played the game?

 

[AetherVagrant]

No he hasnt because he it would take away from bitching on the internet about how no one wants to fuck him

 

[Alienman]

What I do mind is people pushing their degenerate politics into my games.

Do they, though, in Weird West?

Are they preaching an agenda, moralizing, or are there just characters with non-white skin?

I got a side-quest with gay bounty hunter lovers. I didn't read the quest log that intently but I assume the guys I had to kill to make them happy were bigots or something.

 

[Jenkem]

just saying hello to infinitron when he ends up moving posts

 

[Excommunicator]

If you're in this thread complaining about wokeness without also talking about mechanics and encounters then you're a fucking idiot

 

[Latelistener]

Yeah, well. The only playable white character in the game is a pig. Thank you, Raph. Every day I learn something new about myself.

 

[Fedora Master]

If you're in this thread complaining about wokeness without also talking about mechanics and encounters then you're a fucking idiot

Already pointed out its shit
Awful camera
Dumb AI
Endlessly looting barrels
Shitty 10% this, 5% that perks
Companions never shut the fuck up
Shitty fetch quests
Console garbage UI
Tons of abilities you'll never use because fights last like 10 seconds

 

[AdamReith]

Man, a weird west game and I can't play as Bruce Campbell.



What a terrible shame.

 

[AetherVagrant]

If you're in this thread complaining about wokeness without also talking about mechanics and encounters then you're a fucking idiot

Already pointed out its shit
Awful camera
Dumb AI
Endlessly looting barrels
Shitty 10% this, 5% that perks
Companions never shut the fuck up
Shitty fetch quests
Console garbage UI
Tons of abilities you'll never use because fights last like 10 seconds

stop looting barrels that say they are empty no one's forcing you. and if you dont want a pen and paper don't loot a writing desk...you wont find a sword in there

 

[Zizka]

I didn’t like the game personally. Its main drawback is the character progression which is lacklustre to say the least. Progressing without progress: « I finally found an upgrade token, time to boost my stealth speed by… 10%. Next upgrade to get that 10% will be three tokens though… ». I personally didn’t use quick saving but would reload my last auto save (whenever the game would decide to save).

As for the presence of Asians, they’re Chinese, not just « Asians » (you can tell by the tone inflection markers in their names). It’s probably inspired from the real « Wild West »:

Despite bigotry and violence directed at them by whites, Chinese immigrants kept coming to Gam Saan, their numbers augmented when the Central Pacific Railroad Company imported thousands of workers directly from China in the 1860s to build the western portion of the transcontinental railroad. "They are very trusty, they are very intelligent, and they live up to their contracts," railroad president Charles Crocker observed, praising their "reliability and steadiness, and their aptitude and capacity for hard work." By 1870, the census counted 49,310 Chinese in California, making up 8.5 percent of the state's population. In San Francisco, the state's largest city, they composed one-fourth of the population; because most Chinese immigrants were single men, they were a third of the workforce.

I don’t think they were put there for the sake of a political agenda in that case.

 

[AetherVagrant]

I didn’t like the game personally. Its main drawback is the character progression which is lacklustre to say the least. Progressing without progress: « I finally found an upgrade token, time to boost my stealth speed by… 10%. Next upgrade to get that 10% will be three tokens though… ». I personally didn’t use quick saving but would reload my last auto save (whenever the game would decide to save).

As for the presence of Asians, they’re Chinese, not just « Asians » (you can tell by the tone inflection markers in their names). It’s probably inspired from the real « Wild West »:

Despite bigotry and violence directed at them by whites, Chinese immigrants kept coming to Gam Saan, their numbers augmented when the Central Pacific Railroad Company imported thousands of workers directly from China in the 1860s to build the western portion of the transcontinental railroad. "They are very trusty, they are very intelligent, and they live up to their contracts," railroad president Charles Crocker observed, praising their "reliability and steadiness, and their aptitude and capacity for hard work." By 1870, the census counted 49,310 Chinese in California, making up 8.5 percent of the state's population. In San Francisco, the state's largest city, they composed one-fourth of the population; because most Chinese immigrants were single men, they were a third of the workforce.

I don’t think they were put there for the sake of a political agenda in that case.

also here in California there's a reason so many areas have spanish names...because they were here first. In my hometown there's a japanese grocery store that's been owned by the same family since the 1800s and when they first started there were thousands of asians, they just all got massacred and buried in an area we later built a parking lot over their graveyard with fake Buddhist shit in their "honor". Mexicans used to bring their donkeys all they way up the mountains to bring food and supplies to the white miners. Once the gold mines shut down they kicked out all the browns and murdered all the yellows and most locals think it's always been a white town.
same locals are outraged that there's so many brownies nowadays compared to how it "used to be" their grandpas neglected to mention how they pushed the out and erased them but some how kept the names of the streets and buildings.
"New Columbia" was a tiny town in the mountains that was essentially erased by white people once the railroads and trucks negated the need for horseback provisions.
There's several "brown towns" that were literally deliberately flooded and turned into lakes but you can still find their skeletons and houses under the water to this day.

 

[distant]

Played a couple of hours...

Enter an area, come up with a quick gameplan, either things go well or it all falls apart and you have to adapt on the fly. Both are fun. There are +% based perks AND unlockable skills that expand on your options, they can be fun, mostly situational but you can gameplan around using them. There have been a bunch of times in the midst of the chaos where systems collide which catch me by surprise, it's pretty cool. Also the setting is cool, the way they fold in the supernatural elements, make the combat more dynamic, interested to see how they vary up the playstyles/enemy types.

Combat is relatively easy so far (on hard), it's one of those games that just throw a bunch of tools and you can come up with fun ways to tackle the situation, playing optimally is the most boring way to play.

My only complaints so far are the AI (companion AI can be a liability and enemies sometimes have pathing issues), occasional fincky targetting and having to click the sweet spot on the weapon wheel to switch.

TLDR: It's good, excited to play more.

 

[just]

they're collecting data of your choices, they'll keep it forever and share it if necessary
so if you arent saving homosexuals and helping women... i worry about your social credit score
might send you fbi for being an incel far right terrorist

 

[Roguey]

80% of lead characters in games are male, 54% are white and 8% are non-white women. Think about that, you don't seem to be crying about those games, nor did anyone in the 90s other than women and POC, now you're mad more POC and women are getting lead roles? Just look at yourself, throw away your political bias and just think. Hilarious, just hilarious.

A mine full of female workers is definitely cringe though (unless there's a good in-story explanation for why women have to work the mine).

When I play this it looks like I'm going to have to count the number of white men compared to everyone else to see if this is just a case of people thinking that equality = oppression. However people getting mad that they can't play a white guy (except a pigman and a werewolf castizo) are a version of the same pathetic people who get mad when they can't play whatever special identity they want to play in any given game. There aren't that many western games, but in all of them you predominantly play white guys and now you're flipping out because one game comes along with alternative perspectives?

 

[Renevent]

Tried playing last night (I have gamepass so what the hell it's basically free) and...yup...it's ultra woke horseshit. Like I'm not even hugely against inclusion in games...and some of it even belongs. There's no issue with a calamity Jane type character, black characters, etc...but this game went waaaaay off the deep end with the shit to the point where it's obnoxious. It's to the point where you really have to assume it's not a coincidence the only white/male playable character is a fucking pig. There's inclusion, but this is outright self loathing.

Fucking shame too, because a lot of the game's fundamentals are fun and overall gameplay good, and it sucks to imagine how good it would have been if you could have just created your own damn character like most RPG's and every quest/NPC wasn't designed through a "how can we queer western tropes" lens :/

 

[Viata]

Hot take: This game clearly is trying to be woke with its diversity, but is probably pretty cool anyway

More like "I was paid to post take".