Why is Fallout New Vegas considered good?

[Stella Brando]

It's interesting, the difference between Fallout 4 and Fallout New Vegas. Obviously, New Vegas has everything you need in a role-playing game. If you wanted to learn what Fallout was, or what an CRPG was, you could just play this game. It has fine characters (Mr. House is great) and an interesting story. It has an under-rated sense of restraint, there's little Bethesda humour here.

Fallout 4 just feels so much more slick and approachable, however. Going back to FNV after F4 can take some getting used to. I wish there was an updated version that didn't revise the game, just improved the graphics. Maybe revive some content that was always meant to be there. I also like the base building in Fallout 4. I like any activity where I can just fuck around without worrying about what I'm supposed to be doing. I didn't play the game as a distraught parent, just as someone who had old world blues and wanted to create civilisation. Fallout 4 also has a nice big world to explore, while in FNV everything seems to orbit around the Lucky 38.

Playing a hundred or so hours of FNV always leaves me feeling fulfilled, however. It's like I've actually accomplished something. With pure Bethesda games, on the other hand, I always manage to clock hundreds of hours before becoming over-stuffed (yet also malnourished) and just quitting cold-turkey.

I kind of like how Fallout 4 will let you create a character and then see her interact with other people. It helps to give the feeling that you're guiding your character in this world. But I also feel like this play style isn't really Fallout. It's Mass Effect, or Dragon Age. This style also isn't Baldur's Gate (I'm looking at you, Larian)

I like how FNV managed to continue the themes of Fallout 1 and 2. It's like an old TV mini-series that covers a history of hundreds of years. Like Roots or Centennial.

In my mind the series works like this:

2077: End of the World

（2097: A Fallout Adventure —— Capitol Wasteland)
（2107: A Fallout Adventure —— The Commonwealth)

2177: Fallout: Vault Dweller
2227: Fallout 2: The Chosen One
2277: Fallout 3: The Courier

 

[alyvain]

It is concerning to know that many people here played Fallout 4 and Fallout 76.

 

[Cryomancer]

It is concerning to know that many people here played Fallout 4 and Fallout 76.

I ""played"" FL4 by buying at a huge discount, paying for this shit in Argentine pesos, hating the landholding and gun design and asking for a refund.

 

[Sweeper]

 

[Saldrone]

Lots of text walling in this thread lol

Fallout New Vegas is considered a 'good' game because it represents almost everything Fallout 3 could and should have been. That's why

 

[Sweeper]

Lots of text walling in this thread lol

Fallout New Vegas is considered a 'good' game because it represents almost everything Fallout 3 could and should have been. That's why

If that's true, then why don't we have a dedicated Fallout New Vegas thread whilst Fallout 4 has like 300 pages? Hmmmmm?
Clearly, Fallout 4 is the superior Fallout.

 

[Just Locus]

 

[d1r]

WTF? I love the NCR now!

 

[Redshirt #42]

I played Fallout New Vegas when it came out, didn't like it. I tried it again 1-2 years later, still couldn't stomach the engine and the bugs. Half a decade after that, I played it with all the "recommended"/"must have" mods and I learned how to use the console when necessary and I managed to get through all of the Ultimate Edition. I think I switched to the terrible German dub, just so that I didn't have to hear some of the notorious lines from the terrible English voice acting. Then 100%ed the game from scratch again in 2021. It's not a bad RPG, but you have to either like eating a lot of shit, know how to avoid eating shit and/or benefit from your predecessors' hard work who ate some of the shit for you. I can't say it deserves a spot in the top 10 RPGs (like it managed to get once in the Codex list) even though I'd put Bloodlines in my top 10. With Bloodlines, you just need Wesp's patch and everything's good. With New Vegas, it takes a lot more effort and even then you're just left with a less compelling ARPG experience.

 

[Bulo]

still couldn't stomach the engine and the bugs

Get a grip you bloody baby

 

[lossantos]

Why is Fallout New Vegas considered good?

Because internet is full of brainlets

 

[Morgoth]

World building, factions, quests, writing, tone. It's all of the highest quality and coalesces seamlessly into a masterpiece. IMO the last truly great CRPG released.

 

[The Nameless One]

World building, factions, quests, writing, tone. It's all of the highest quality and coalesces seamlessly into a masterpiece. IMO the last truly great CRPG released.

Sure. It's turn-based too, if you use VATS only.

 

[Losus4]

Nearly all of the locations in New Vegas are in the middle portion of the map with the eastern and western portions being completely unused and out of bounds. Not to mention New Vegas has no random encounters, so every play through will be mostly the same in terms of where enemies are and what they are using. Fallout 3 on the other hand has almost 100% random encounters that will change location and time with every play through.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Playing a hundred or so hours of FNV always leaves me feeling fulfilled, however.

I think people underrated how FNV makes you feel fulfilled. Once you see the slides with everything you did and how events turned out , it just feels like you ended a chapter of the Wasteland for good.

 

[Butter]

Nearly all of the locations in New Vegas are in the middle portion of the map with the eastern and western portions being completely unused and out of bounds. Not to mention New Vegas has no random encounters, so every play through will be mostly the same in terms of where enemies are and what they are using. Fallout 3 on the other hand has almost 100% random encounters that will change location and time with every play through.

Lol replaying Fallout 3

 

[Ol' Willy]

I just pointed out this in a different thread, but it is worth repeating.

Narrative wise, New Vegas is a masterclass in grey morality considering the main three factions. The game doesn't give you some generic good and bad guys. You have three factions with distinct beliefs or values.

Legion is harsh and brutal, and their order is merciless. But it does bring actual order - no crime, no raiders, no drugs. It works.

NCR is softer, the people could do whatever they want to do as long as they don't go beyond the law. But NCR is ineffective and corrupt, their system is good in theory but it barely works.

House is smart and competent, but cares little about outside world. New Vegas is his toy, and he wants to keep it all for himself, protecting himself from any intervention.

And then, you can say fuck you to all of them, securing the piece for yourself. I like New Vegas Dust as a logical consequence of Yes Man ending, the Courier fucks up everything so bad that the place is barely survivable.

What you want to choose is entirely up to you. The game doesn't nudge you towards any of the factions, the choice is all yours.

Many games attempted such narrative, but few did it so good

 

[Losus4]

Nearly all of the locations in New Vegas are in the middle portion of the map with the eastern and western portions being completely unused and out of bounds. Not to mention New Vegas has no random encounters, so every play through will be mostly the same in terms of where enemies are and what they are using. Fallout 3 on the other hand has almost 100% random encounters that will change location and time with every play through.

Lol replaying Fallout 3

Great game, peak looter shooter and wasteland wandering simulator.

 

[Sigourn]

Legion is harsh and brutal, and their order is merciless. But it does bring actual order - no crime, no raiders, no drugs. It works.

Often people say there's nothing morally grey about a faction that rapes and slaves.
But I think they miss the important point: it's not so much about the Legion being "morally grey". It's the fact they are an option at all. How many games let you side with such a faction?