why the hate on BG3

[Dycedarg]

Regarding BG3, the most common sentiment I've seen is lack of enthusiasm, not hate. And most people who hate the game criticise it for not being RTWP.

 

[luj1]

The ruleset is shite and cinematic dialogue is cancer. These are the biggest concerns for me. Combat is actually OK strictly speaking. You also have cringe writing, idiotic companions and SJW stuff, but I could have lived with those

 

[luj1]

You are late to the party, the hate is over by now, Cyberpunk 2077 is the new flavour of the month to hate.

You're right because at least BG3 is an RPG, regardless of quality

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Way more horrible things have been done to name Baldur's Gate than Larian's current attempt to sell stuff.

 

[AdamReith]

I have successfully managed to avoid anything to do with BG3. But I have a feeling it's something like making a Gran Turismo sequel in the style of Mario Kart.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Regarding BG3, the most common sentiment I've seen is lack of enthusiasm, not hate. And most people who hate the game criticise it for not being RTWP.

Only because they expected a sequel to BG, which they didn't get.

Everything revolves around this single factor. Everything else apart from this is a red herring.

 

[Fedora Master]

Way more horrible things have been done to name Baldur's Gate than Larian's current attempt to sell stuff.

By modders who are turbo fags, but that's expected and by WotC who allowed the BG novels to be written.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Way more horrible things have been done to name Baldur's Gate than Larian's current attempt to sell stuff.

By modders who are turbo fags, but that's expected and by WotC who allowed the BG novels to be written.

I never tried any of those.
But there's no point to pretend that Dark Alliances didn't happen.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Way more horrible things have been done to name Baldur's Gate than Larian's current attempt to sell stuff.

Yeah but this is Baldur's Gate 3, the others weren't.

I would put forward that they would have avoided a lot of controversy if they called this Baldur's Gate: Whatever but no. They went with calling this a sequel and here we are.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Way more horrible things have been done to name Baldur's Gate than Larian's current attempt to sell stuff.

Yeah but this is Baldur's Gate 3, the others weren't.

I would put forward that they would have avoided a lot of controversy if they called this Baldur's Gate: Whatever but no. They went with calling this a sequel and here we are.

You often get intense emotional reactions from numerals?

 

[NJClaw]

not that I care about BG3, I am more of a WOTR fan, but what makes BG3 give negative feels on codex?

I think you should start from here: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/baldurs-gate-3-hate-thread.132060/

 

[Lyric Suite]

Way more horrible things have been done to name Baldur's Gate than Larian's current attempt to sell stuff.

Yeah but this is Baldur's Gate 3, the others weren't.

I would put forward that they would have avoided a lot of controversy if they called this Baldur's Gate: Whatever but no. They went with calling this a sequel and here we are.

You often get intense emotional reactions from numerals?

Dont try sophistry with me figgit, it should be obvious what i'm talking about.

I'll give you a case in point: imagine if Half Life: Alyx was called Half Life 3.

 

[Dycedarg]

Only because they expected a sequel to BG, which they didn't get.

Everything revolves around this single factor. Everything else apart from this is a red herring.

Pretty much. And considering that the game was made almost tenty years after BG2 by a different company, it would never be a true sequel. Especially since Larian is very different from the old Bioware.

 

[Fedora Master]

The only feasible BG3 woulda been a game set in the Planes with the PC starting as a level 30 or so lesser deity, trying to not immediately get consumed by the other gods politicking and portfolio stealing.

Make it a cult building game where you have to manage your own startup religion. Good luck doing it as a LG God of Murder.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

I'll give you a case in point: imagine if Half Life: Alyx was called Half Life 3.

I suffered through Star Control 3, so there's that.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Bad writing (awkward third person narrator dialogue), bad companions (everyone's an edgelord), lame setting (lost in the woods for an entire act), bad ruleset AND bad implementation of that ruleset (only 6 classes), bad UI, bad in-game database/help (no idea what spells/feats/class abilities there are, etc).

That's just my impression from the beta, it could all be a great game still, but it's off to an awful start. BG1/2 gave you the full breadth of classes from the base system and then some and gave you quite a bit of non-linear exploration and questing. BG 3 takes away half the content from an already-simplified game system, dumps you into a narrow path through the forest, and has six specific emo assholes whine at you the entire time. Its possible this is just the game's 'Chateau Irenicus' and it will open up in Act 2, but I have my doubts.

 

[fantadomat]

You are late to the party, the hate is over by now, Cyberpunk 2077 is the new flavour of the month to hate.

Hmmm so i have to revisit the DOS2.5 thread and mock swen for having a nose hook domination and cuck fetish.

i adopt fast.

I could find you a few young gypso boys to adopt....for a finder's fee.

I'm just keeping tabs on it until full release and Shadowheart porn.

Surprised nobody has ripped the models yet.

Don't tell that to me, tell it to my cock.

LoL it will be as hard as finding PoE porn,nobody cares about those bitches.

 

[Reality]

I mean we should be clear that it's a mix of small problems that AREN"T dealbreakers (too visually noisy, Limited Class selection) and that the game could be really good without even fixing.... and then a 2nd set of big problems that people will kind of justifibly die on a hill over... The humor, and the Larian difficulty curve.

Even though I'm a gameplayfag, the humor really was that bad (in Divinity Original Sin: 2) - Even in games with good story I ignore it and mash through dialog .... but DOS still slowly drilled its way to my attention. As far as Larian difficulty... I found it fun at first but terrible for replaying the game with diffrent party/builds.... I find that 1st playthrough does a so-so job (in D:OS earlygame to midgame) of disquising itself as genuine, which is fun and all.. but in lategame it fully exposes itself as a series of "get them first" Crowd control fights ... and once you do a 2nd playtrhgouh and know what's coming... even when using spells schools you didn't even touch in playtrhough 1, you will kind of unconsiouslly start the "stun everything turn 1" even in earlygame areas, which will reduce even them to the lows of the lategame areas.

I feel like even though my personal opinion of D:OS is too negative to replay it, if you held a gun to my head I would put them in the 4th-6th best RPG range of both 2014 and 2017. honestly I hope Larian has layoffs, and that a child studio will take the promising parts of the design without the baggage of their humor/level gated area arcs weighting it down.

BG3 is by all indications going the same way as D:OS, even with D&D 5E rules instead of the status resistance systems of D:OS,--- the layout of enemies just continues to encourage a D:OS like playstyle - My impression of the companions is bad, and being slightly less bad than DOS (which put bestiality jokes in to go beyond the awkwardness of other modern romances) is NOT a selling point.

 

[moon knight]

The camp where you interact with companions look like Dragon Age Origins, but more boring.

 

[Takamori]

I don't hate it but at the same time there is some glaring issues with some design decisions of Larian regarding the combat mechanics. In order to fullfill normalfaggotry they are trying to mess around with to hit bonuses and AC. While pumping the monsters HP, while this bandaid the retarded cry of I'm missing way too much on early levels, it creates a whole new monster, HP scaling and combat duration.

Regarding the rest, visual presentation and companions I don't have much to complain, I don't plan to fuck any of them though? Deus vult etc etc, just waiting the patch to test Paladin.

 

[Tyrr]

LoL it will be as hard as finding PoE porn,nobody cares about those bitches.

True.
The best metric for good character design in a game: The amount of porn.

Just look at old Mass Effect compared to ME:A.

 

[Crispy]

beloved series

 

[Erebus]

The fact that it's a soulless cash grab is a more than sufficient reason. The fact that the developer didn't even bother to pretend that they had any respect for the original games merely adds insult to injury.

The only feasible BG3 woulda been a game set in the Planes with the PC starting as a level 30 or so lesser deity, trying to not immediately get consumed by the other gods politicking and portfolio stealing.

Make it a cult building game where you have to manage your own startup religion. Good luck doing it as a LG God of Murder.

In all seriousness, that could be a pretty cool game. Very different from BG 1 and 2, obviously, but it would be a legitimate sequel and a very original one.

A LG god of murder sounds crazy, but it's really not that impossible. After all, defeating an evil sorcerer by stabbing him in the back is not morally worse than defeating him in a duel after slaughtering his minions by the dozen.

 

[[UCHIHA]XxDarkSasuke420xX]

larian games are NERD cringe bro I still don't understand how they got mainstream appeal
they probably paid a bunch of streamers to shill so people picked it up, played 20 minutes, and forgot about it

 

[Fedora Master]

The only feasible BG3 woulda been a game set in the Planes with the PC starting as a level 30 or so lesser deity, trying to not immediately get consumed by the other gods politicking and portfolio stealing.

Make it a cult building game where you have to manage your own startup religion. Good luck doing it as a LG God of Murder.

In all seriousness, that could be a pretty cool game. Very different from BG 1 and 2, obviously, but it would be a legitimate sequel and a very original one.

A LG god of murder sounds crazy, but it's really not that impossible. After all, defeating an evil sorcerer by stabbing him in the back is not morally worse than defeating him in a duel after slaughtering his minions by the dozen.

Right, and even for a god there's plenty of stuff to do more or less personally via avatars, so you could still have classic dungeon crawls in-between for whatever reason. Have various interactions with people across the Realms through which the player can define the tenets of their faith. Play godly politics through dialogue choices with other deities and whatnot. There's potential for something really unique there.