Will you play Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2?

[Elttharion]

Not right now. I had the game pre ordered but there are too many red flags. Also Vavra acted like a giant clown in the last few days. If the black dude is the worst part I might buy the GOTY edition at a 75% discount down the line. If the leaked homo romance options are real I am never touching anything made by Warhorse or Vavra ever again.

Already spent the refunded money in japanese porn games.

 

[BruceVC]

Absolutely, its a "day 1 purchase "

But I will wait for mods to be released that improve bad mechanics like the vanilla save system in KC:D 1

KC:D 1 delivered on every level so there is no reason I wouldn't play KC:D 2

 

[BruceVC]

I found this post on Steam around the issues of inclusivity in KC:D2 and he makes very reasonable points and they seem historically accurate. I am not knowledgeable on this type of history but you dont need to be to agree with his points

I do think a game set in a historically accurate theme needs to be historically accurate. I am still going to play KC:D 2 but I can understand the criticism in this post


" I am getting tired of game developers caving to today’s “social norms” brought on by a small section of the gaming community. While diversity and representation are undoubtedly important in certain circumstances, it is essential to prioritize historical accuracy, especially in a game that aims to immerse players in a specific time period.

Kingdom Come Deliverance is known for its commitment to historical realism in its portrayal of 15th-century Bohemia. However, introducing characters from marginalized groups such as LGBTQ+ and darker skinned individuals into a prominent role in the game would undermine this dedication to authenticity.

Allow me to provide some historical context.

Bohemia in 1403 was a predominantly homologous society with limited diversity in terms of ethnicity and sexual orientation. LGBTQ+ and darker skinned people were not prominent or even acknowledged members of society during this time period. Introducing such characters into the game as anything other than background fodder would be historically inaccurate and would compromise the immersive experience that Kingdom Come Deliverance is renowned for providing.

Furthermore, Bohemia in the 15th century was deeply rooted in feudalism, with strict social hierarchies and cultural norms. Introducing characters who do not fit within these societal structures would not only be historically inaccurate but also unrealistic.

Yes Bohemia, specifically Kuttenberg, may have had a degree of cultural diversity in the 15th century due to its economic importance and influx of people from various regions, like merchants, craftsmen, and miners from different areas of Europe. However, the primary cultural influence would still have been Czech, reflecting the broader context of the Kingdom of Bohemia.

I understand there is some importance of inclusivity and representation in this game, but it should not come at the expense of historical accuracy, especially in a game like Kingdom Come Deliverance that prides itself on its realism.

!!Trigger Warning!! Instead of shoehorning diversity into the game and forcing a gay/trans character down our throats just because “WE NEED REPRESENTATION!”, I urge the development team to focus on telling an engaging and authentic story within the constraints of the historical context.

Before you flame me and call my homophobic or racist understand that I am all for including that kind of stuff in games that aren’t supposed to be historically accurate. Take BG3 as an example. I have over 140 hours in that game and it’s very diverse. However, it’s a fantasy game that isn’t rooted in any real-world events, history, or locations. "

 

[huskarls]

KCD is kinda like GTA, primitive gameplay, primitive overworld you drive around in with above average graphics in between doing the one dimensional main quest where you watch cutscenes and listen to talking on your horse car. It definitely needs a multiplayer mode considering GTA's financial success.

There were some cute mechanics like crime and literacy, but the vast majority of the 'gameplay' is the mainstory you don't interact with. I don't think movie gaming has any place in this medium since the plot is below evening television and adds tedious button smashing, not making use of the one thing video games uniquely provide (interaction).

I saw an article before KCD came out describing how there's a part where you infiltrate a cuman camp and can decide how to sabotage it and enter through stealth, disguises, speech, poisoning food, etc etc. Odd they knew what (some) players wanted for advertisement purposes but put your ass on a horse listening to bullshit between cutscenes

 

[moleman]

KCD is kinda like GTA, primitive gameplay, primitive overworld ...

Absolutely not!

 

[onemananadhisdroid]

It's the trickery that bothers me more than anything. If they were really so enthusiastic and confident in Henry being able to romance another guy and a sanitised 'scholar' from a very distant country being present then they would have shown it off during the marketing phase and had journalists gushing over both elements.

Maybe that.

Or they don't find that their implementation is a big deal in a 100 hour game of no thrones. Like sane people, probably. Not that there's many left on this rock of dust, where everybody lets themselves be aggro'd, exploited and triggered by anything.


Speaking about implementation, it may be interesting what those consequences of acting against the social and morale norms teased are gonna be. If it's really just gay romance, meh. I'd expect a lot more here from Warhorse than say a cuddly optional bromance going a step further.

 

[moleman]

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Or they don't find that their implementation is a big deal in a 100 hour game of no thrones. Like sane people, probably. Not that there's many left on this rock of dust, where everybody lets themselves be aggro'd, exploited and triggered by anything.


Speaking about implementation, it may be interesting what those consequences of acting against the social and morale norms teased are gonna be. If it's really just gay romance, meh. I'd expect a lot more here from Warhorse than say a cuddly optional bromance going a step further.

Correct. Same goes for the black guy. Let's see what those "interesting situations" will be and what choices we will be able to make. I can't get around all this autistic screeching because they put one (in numbers: 1) black guy in the game without knowing anything what his role will be.

Regarding the gay stuff: Vavra has said in his x-post that it will be regarded in the game in historical context, which means as sinful.

Judging by what we already have, namely the first game, I highly doubt there will be any "woke agenda" in this game.

 

[Drakortha]

KCD was never good and judging by the huge amount of activity on these boards these past few weeks surrounding these shit games you'd think we were on the KCD official forums. We're going to need to cleanse this place eventually.

 

[Swen]

I really, really want to play the game but making Henry """"optionally""""" bisexual is a bridge too far, it's an established character. Vavra retconned Henry because he was scared of the woke gaming press.

I don't mind the black guy that much because the explanation does make some sense why he's there.

Will wait and see how bad it is though...

Sucks hard that even """based""" Vavra cucked out.

 

[Drakortha]

making Henry """"optionally""""" bisexual is a bridge too far, it's an established character.

This is rich coming from a Larian Fag.

 

[Swen]

making Henry """"optionally""""" bisexual is a bridge too far, it's an established character.

This is rich coming from a Larian Fag.

How you dumb retard? BG3 charcaters weren't established and all new so no retconning. If the characters are blank slate I don't care what the player makes them to be.

Not the case for KCD

 

[Drakortha]

Were BG1 and BG2 established gayfests? I'd argue these were not established as such until Larian came along.

"They made muh established character gay! This cannot stand!" - coming from someone who was completely fine with, and defended, the most absolute gayest gayfest in gaming today.

Face it, you have no right to criticize anything for being gay ever again. You made your bed. Now stop being a hypocrite and sleep in it.