Preview Witcher 2 - I Want to Quicktime a Dragon

[Elwro]

If you chase a dragon away, anyone will expect you'll be fighting it in the Ep1C ClimAx11! at some point. I honestly hope CDProjekt will no better than to have a Witcher become a dragon slayer.

 

[Hamster]

Whats up with all this defending of shit popamole mechanics by potato squad lately?

 

[Reptilian Shapeshifter]

Whats up with all this defending of shit popamole mechanics by potato squad lately?

Three guesses.

 

[Kz3r0]

Italian detected

Bunga bunga is a better RPG.

What's wrong commie?
Your internationalist popamole ideology failed you and now you resort to blind patriotism and xenophobic attack?
A potato popamole is still popamole, you know?

 

[Yeesh]

If a game has a feature you think is shitty, but that feature is only present for less than 2% of the time you play the game, is it just a principle thing that moves you to declare that the feature by itself takes the entire game from playable to shitty?

Isn't the game still 98% of a decent game, assuming it was such a decent game to begin with? (And of course, if it wasn't even a decent game to begin with, then who cares?)

For example, romance and sex scenes in video games make me roll my eyes and press continue as quickly as possible because they're just universally shit, shit, shit. But while I will always be happy to complain about how preposterously crappy an idea it is to include jarringly sucky moments like those in a game, I don't pretend that their presence renders the rest of the game unsatisfying or unplayable.

 

[IronicNeurotic]

If you want to play different kinds of angels, which is huge innovashun in games, you can fight them to your heart's content in.... dum dum.........

BAYONETTA!!!

Bayonetta is a good game

 

[made]

Just to be clear, Twitcher has always been the dumbed down version of an action game, as every other 'rpg' nowadays, only the potato nationalists here praised it.
Get God of War instead, it's a better action game, and a better 'rpg' too.

This post amused me because I played GoW1+2 not long ago on PCSX2 and QTEs are an integral part of the series. Not just in cutscenes but normal gameplay, bossfights in particular, even down to simple things like opening doors. Clearly, CDPR still has a lot to learn.

 

[deus101]

God damn Estern Europeans...:THIS ISNT YUGOSLAVIA YOU KNOW!

 

[Kz3r0]

Just to be clear, Twitcher has always been the dumbed down version of an action game, as every other 'rpg' nowadays, only the potato nationalists here praised it.
Get God of War instead, it's a better action game, and a better 'rpg' too.

This post amused me because I played GoW1+2 not long ago on PCSX2 and QTEs are an integral part of the series. Not just in cutscenes but normal gameplay, bossfights in particular, even down to simple things like opening doors. Clearly, CDPR still has a lot to learn.

That was the point.

 

[BelisariuS.F]

Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c2XrG58DEo you can witness how QTE looks like in a boss fight with some giant squid.

Here http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=57903 at the 7th page I posted some new translations of some new infos about the features of the game.

 

[MetalCraze]

Just to be clear, Twitcher has always been the dumbed down version of an action game, as every other 'rpg' nowadays, only the potato nationalists here praised it.
Get God of War instead, it's a better action game, and a better 'rpg' too.

Butthurt detected

Actually he may be right.

The fighting is better and the "skills" do affect everything in combat, unlocking new ways to kill, unlike in TW where "skills" only add +50 hp and +10 to dmg. It may be a better "RPG".

Finally it doesn't have collectible fucking achievements because there was not enough potato to show 3D boobs.

 

[Elwro]

Well, looks better than the final fight in Risen.

:-(

 

[MetalCraze]

Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c2XrG58DEo you can witness how QTE looks like in a boss fight with some giant squid.

Total RPG! Just look at all those shining skill and stat checks!

And the boss centric camera! And shining tentacles to show intelligent PC gamers where to hit if camera centering on the tentacle isn't enough. Take that dumb consoletards, this is how we do it in our Personal Console exclusive - yeaaaaaaah

 

[Reptilian Shapeshifter]

Well, looks better than the final fight in Risen.

:-(

At least the Risen boss fight made me laugh a few times.

:-(

 

[Serious_Business]

No, the alternative is that you get to fight the fucking Dragon using the game's pre-existing (one would hope) combat system. Said combat system has thus been made awesome and interactive enough that you can fight aformentioned foes in a way appropriate to the role you've chosen to play (with bombs, special elixirs on your sword that work for bonus points against dragons, spells you like or w/e).

How do you know that you don't fight this dragon, assuming of course that it even is a dragon, sometime later properly? There were cutscenes at the start, middle and end of boss fights in the first Witcher so why is this so different? The ALTERNATIVE in the past was just to watch a cutscene of such an event or not have it at all. In a cinematic game that is The Witcher 2, The Witcher 1, ME1, ME2, DA etc. the decision has been taken to sprinkle the games with cutscenes that advance the plot. The Witcher 2 just takes some of these cutscenes and makes them a bit more interactive, so what's the big fucking deal when there ALWAYS were going to be cutscenes of some kind in the game anyway? Play fucking Swords and Sorcery and fight the Coca Cola can representing a dragon if you want.

As above. Replacing combat with QTE cutscenes is bullshit. In fact, having the reduce boss to 50 hp, cutscene and move to another bit of the level to continue fighting is also bs. The best games enforce cutscene/combat apartheid. The mixed-race mongrel of QTE-combat is an abomination.

The one situation where QTEs are tolerable is how they were deployed in ME2. Namely 'conversational' interrupts to give some impression of 'real' conversation. Now ME2's needed more telegraphing so you knew what you were going to do, and some of the actual things you did were silly, but the principle behind it is sound.

Here's a tip: don't play it. Play the Codex favorite elite game 'Swords and Sorcery' instead. In fact, why are you considering playing a game with cutscenes anyway? Cutscenes are just QTE events without QTE. QTE doesn't replace combat, it's used as a plot device. Last time I checked, Witcher 2 had combat in it.

You idiots seem unable to understand that a QTE in this case is just a replacement of something that would have been a cutscene anyway. Where the fuck were you when the first Witcher had a 5 minute intro of Geralt fighting a Striga? Where was the rage that that fight wasn't interactive? In that came when you fought bosses you'd also get cutscenes before, during and after the proper fight. Where was the rage then? You didn't know about this and now when The Witcher 2 does things the same as the first game all of a sudden it's the greatest crime against humanity?

Give me a fucking break with your bullshit selective rage.

Shut the fuck up commie. I don't mean this in a "oh you're being reasonable so I'm going to support you implicitly by insulting you to highlight the absurdity of your opponents' positions", I just mean shut the hell up. Let these folks rage in peace. Selective rage is what it's all about. You think we're here to rage when we have a good reason to? Fuck you. You're an idealistic fucktard, get off your high horse

 

[turn_based_fanboy]

Well, looks better than the final fight in Risen.

:-(

It's not final fight. The whole dragon QTE scene is beginning of the game since only prologue and act 1 were released.

Of course most of the people bitching about QTE replacing combat never bothered to read that part

 

[Kz3r0]

Well, looks better than the final fight in Risen.

:-(

It's not final fight. The whole dragon QTE scene is beginning of the game since only prologue and act 1 were released.

Of course most of the people bitching about QTE replacing combat never bothered to read that part

 

[Hamster]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426506&page=2

 

[MetalCraze]

That image is so ironic in the current context

Njet comrade, I will slay dragons by twitching LMB in a boss minigame in The Witcher 2

 

[grdja]

How did they go from "lets make action RPG endless clicking less boring by making rightly timed mouse clicks part of the gameplay" to straight console arcade game boss fight with QTEs.

 

[Elwro]

Well, looks better than the final fight in Risen.

:-(

It's not final fight. The whole dragon QTE scene is beginning of the game since only prologue and act 1 were released.

Of course most of the people bitching about QTE replacing combat never bothered to read that part

I know it's not the final fight in TW2. Your reply has nothing to do with my post. This fight looks better than the final fight in Risen, one of the worst boss fights ever, that's all.

The fact that it is not the final fight makes it more worrying. I really hope the last one won't be against a dragon.

 

[Darth Roxor]

You idiots seem unable to understand that a QTE in this case is just a replacement of something that would have been a cutscene anyway.

'Hey, that's a pretty looking cutscene right here, and uh, OHMYGOD RED TRIANGLE FLASHES ON THE EDGE, HAFTA PUSH X... ah shit, too late, time to watch this shit all over again'.

Yeah, I think I'll stick to normal cutscenes, thank you very fucking much.

And you are one to whine about people whining, mr 'I ain't playin' a gaem without gud graphixxx no matter its other qualities!!!!!'

 

[kofeur]

Just to be clear, Twitcher has always been the dumbed down version of an action game, as every other 'rpg' nowadays, only the potato nationalists here praised it.
Get God of War instead, it's a better action game, and a better 'rpg' too.

This post amused me because I played GoW1+2 not long ago on PCSX2 and QTEs are an integral part of the series. Not just in cutscenes but normal gameplay, bossfights in particular, even down to simple things like opening doors. Clearly, CDPR still has a lot to learn.

That was the point.

Played the first GOW, wasn't anything special.
Using QTEs to open chests is retarded... I'd rather CDPR not learn from them

If you want to see QTE well implemented in a fight, play the Shenmue series.
They're the ones who came up with the concept and they did it right

 

[BelisariuS.F]

And the boss centric camera! And shining tentacles to show intelligent PC gamers where to hit if camera centering on the tentacle isn't enough. Take that dumb consoletards, this is how we do it in our Personal Console exclusive - yeaaaaaaah

I think that's because they didn't make the entire tentacle severable (blame the modelers) and you can cut this tentacle off only at the single spot, so they decided to direct the player to this spot, so he wont be slashing this tentacle centimeter by centimeter in order to find it. I think that's the intention of the designers.

The fact that it is not the final fight makes it more worrying. I really hope the last one won't be against a dragon.

Well, I don't think that the main villain in TW2 is a dragon...

 

[Bahamut]

If you want to see QTE well implemented in a fight, play the Shenmue series.
They're the ones who came up with the concept and they did it right

Shenmue was probably the only game that done QTE's right, i remember that final boss of second game had 3-4 pretty fast sequences in the end part of the fight, fail one and you need to start the boss again