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Witcher Combat- WTF was CD Projekt thinking?

Texas Red

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Jeez I killed the Hellhound on the first attempt at normal with my then shit computer lagging everything up. You just need to use the proper oils and drinks.

Witcher isn't brain surgery. I'm surprised some of you can't for your life kill the thing and have to ask for suggestions and whine on a forum. There's probably a dozen cheese tactics where you can run around and hide behind houses or something.
 

MetalCraze

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Lesifoere said:
(ME was an interactive movie.)

Still better than "choose one out of two dialogue options and watch Geralt talking with NPC for 3 minutes without any player input".

Darth Roxor said:
AndhairaX said:
The game would have been much better were it turn based, or at least RTwP.

Except that it was rtwp...

No it was a game with combat QTE minigame.
 

Norfleet

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I'm going to guess that they thought HARD should actually be HARD, perhaps? Not everyone can be an astronaut.
 

Burning Bridges

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Shannow said:
GlobalExplorer said:
Shannow said:
I had to reload about 5 times for the fucking hellhound on normal.
So you expected to make it the first time?
Huh? You stupid, or what?

You're dodging the issue. How many failed attempts did you expect? You said five was exorbitant.

Shannow said:
If you are willing to replay an hour just to get specter oil.
low attention span?

Shannow said:
If you know you'll be up against the hound beforehand.
that was the point of the whole fucking chapter :roll:

Shannow said:
The above questions were rhetorical. I know the answer.
You know nothing. Instead of insulting I suggest you play on Easy.
 

Lesifoere

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MetalCraze said:
Lesifoere said:
(ME was an interactive movie.)

Still better than "choose one out of two dialogue options and watch Geralt talking with NPC for 3 minutes without any player input".

No, it really isn't.
 

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As I remmember Stun of Aard doesn't really work for Hellhound. You need to have Aard knock-down and then one-hit kill. That's actually receipt for insta-win any major battle.
 

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Don't lower the difficulty - otherwise you won't really need any alchemy, just boring clickfest. On hard you actually have to prepare for bigger fights.
Also get yourself the first person mod, looks and plays better imo (changing to tpp for combat).
There's also a mod allowing to walk, not just run all the time, but I can't be assed to find it atm.
 

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MetalCraze said:
Lesifoere said:
(ME was an interactive movie.)

Still better than "choose one out of two dialogue options and watch Geralt talking with NPC for 3 minutes without any player input".

Mass Effect is more like fighting a bunch of enemies, picking one of three identical badass dialogue options and then watching 10 minutes of unskippable cutscenes.
 

MetalCraze

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Well, good thing TW doesn't have any charm/intimidate options.

JarlFrank said:
MetalCraze said:
Lesifoere said:
(ME was an interactive movie.)

Still better than "choose one out of two dialogue options and watch Geralt talking with NPC for 3 minutes without any player input".

Mass Effect is more like fighting a bunch of enemies, picking one of three identical badass dialogue options and then watching 10 minutes of unskippable cutscenes.

Well that is still better than picking 1 badass option (or not picking anything at all) and in Mass Effect you can at least end dialogue any time you want.
As for cutscenes - TW has a fair share of them too, even with "cinematic" camera angles and shaking.
 

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I really wish the game had a more complex combat. I love some parts of it, like the C&C, the quests, the overall design, the atmosphere and yes, even the badass fuck-a-bitch approach to women. But even on hard the combat is not too difficult (well, aside from the fiddling with potions in the middle of a fight- why does it take him like fifteen seconds to drink a potion, I'll never understand).
 

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Quilty said:
why does it take him like fifteen seconds to drink a potion, I'll never understand).
Because he is super badass. Pulling out a potion, opening it and drinking when everyone around is trying to hack your balls off would take a non-badass, like you, much longer and would be interrupted by some bastard running you through.
 

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flushfire said:
you picked hard and think the combat is shit because it's actually hard?

I don't know what the OP was trying to say, but the combat in TW is not shit because it's hard, it's shit because it's shit.
 

GeneralSamov

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I didn't find Javed particularly hard, neither at the swamp tower, nor in his lab, but I confess I was playing on normal. What I did find challenging, though, was trying to keep Berengar alive in there. I never managed to pull that off.
In the end, it's really about finding the correct tactic to defeat your enemy, and then it's all a breeze. For instance, I can't remember how many times I had to run for cover in the swamps due to bloedzuigers exploding and covering me with acid, then I learned to just hop away and let them rape themselves. Or archespores and coccacidiums...
 

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Suchy said:
Also get yourself the first person mod, looks and plays better imo (changing to tpp for combat).

Absolutely, one of the first things I would get. I even made a thread for it (screenshots). Only then it feels really like a PC game.

Quilty said:
I really wish the game had a more complex combat.

I would like to see a RPG with deep TB combat like in JA2. Either that, or something with real time action like Mount & Blade.
 

Lesifoere

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theverybigslayer said:
Click on the sword when it is flaming.

A metaphor for the player's unfufilled need to see Geralt get it on with another man. The elf freedom-fighter leader would be a perfect choice.
 

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One factor that makes the Hellhound fight seem so hard is that the Geralt's journal says that quick style is the most effective against it, but strong style actually works much better. Or maybe it was the other way around, It's been a while since I played. Anyway, if you use specter oil and the right style, it goes down pretty fast, otherwise you're unlikely to hurt it very much before Geralt is stunned and raped.
 

Quilty

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Lesifoere said:
theverybigslayer said:
Click on the sword when it is flaming.

A metaphor for the player's unfufilled need to see Geralt get it on with another man. The elf freedom-fighter leader would be a perfect choice.

Please turn this into fan fiction <3
 

Quilty

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Spectacle said:
One factor that makes the Hellhound fight seem so hard is that the Geralt's journal says that quick style is the most effective against it, but strong style actually works much better. Or maybe it was the other way around, It's been a while since I played. Anyway, if you use specter oil and the right style, it goes down pretty fast, otherwise you're unlikely to hurt it very much before Geralt is stunned and raped.

I actually think the journal says something about the hound being immune (or not very susceptible) to stun (or signs in general). Which would be an utter lie.
 

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