Game News Wizardry-like Dungeon Crawler Elminage Gothic Released on Steam

[Clockwork Knight]

Of course if you add thirty zeroes it gets ridiculous, which is why you don't see that outside of parodies about MMOs. What's your point? HP shouldn't ever go beyond two digits or something like that?

 

[SuicideBunny]

What's your point?

that hp and dmg scaling with levels is a stupid mechanic, even more so if they reach ridiculous levels compared to starting values.

 

[Jasede]

Did you just say HP and damage increasing as you level up is a stupid mechanics? I'm not sure I understand you right.

 

[SuicideBunny]

it is and always will be, no matter how many good blobbers there are that use it.

 

[Zeriel]

So what's your dream game? A blobber without character progression? Sounds fascinating.

 

[Cyberarmy]

So what's your dream game? A blobber without character progression? Sounds fascinating.

Turn based Doom?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Turn based Doom?

http://doom.chaosforge.org/

 

[grudgebringer]

Turn based Doom?

http://doom.chaosforge.org/

Also - Doom RPG.

 

[SuicideBunny]

So what's your dream game? A blobber without character progression? Sounds fascinating.

why do you equate character progression with scaling hp and damage? do you have no character progression in real life, despite all weapons maintaining their baseline lethality towards you during all stages of your development?
plus i am not opposed to increases as such, i am just against level-based scaling to levels of utter ridiculousness.

 

[ben_reck]

My poor casters would thrill to anything resembling hp growth. And it doesn't matter how many hps they have, they can still lose their heads.

The game has a few signposts in the first dungeon about the allure of alchemy. Curiously, it includes no such plugs for servants.

 

[Jaesun]

Yeah, the old Wizardry level up system is complete garbage. It is a shame they don't use VII's. There was a reason they got rid of that old shit system.

 

[Scroo]

Yep. I admit I savescum on lvl up. Don't care if it's unmonocled, it's no fun to lose str three times on a row on your brawler.

 

[GlutenBurger]

Because of a steam fuck-up, the preorder bonuses (artbook and soundtrack) weren't available as intended, so they went out and unlocked them to everyone. I've seen at least one butthurt guy on the forums.

I have trouble imagining the mindset of somebody who gets upset about something like this. I get as far as picturing him at a bar trying to impress women with his array of exclusive preorder art books and soundtracks, and the whole thing breaks down with the sheer surreality.

Yep. I admit I savescum on lvl up. Don't care if it's unmonocled, it's no fun to lose str three times on a row on your brawler.

It's certainly one of the least enjoyable aspects of the Wizardry system, but three times in a row? Is that an exaggeration? Maybe you made him too old for the bonus points at creation? The manual says older characters are more likely to lose physical stats and gain mental stats. I haven't played yet, but it would be disappointing to hear the game is doing level ups so badly that classes lose their key stats so easily.

 

[Scroo]

Yep. I admit I savescum on lvl up. Don't care if it's unmonocled, it's no fun to lose str three times on a row on your brawler.

It's certainly one of the least enjoyable aspects of the Wizardry system, but three times in a row? Is that an exaggeration? Maybe you made him too old for the bonus points at creation? The manual says older characters are more likely to lose physical stats and gain mental stats. I haven't played yet, but it would be disappointing to hear the game is doing level ups so badly that classes lose their key stats so easily.

That was an exaggeration But really, you regularly lose (key-) stats on lvl up and in general I just cannot see why anyone would invent a system that sometimes punishes you for leveling. I understand that it was in the original wizardries but that doesn't mean that it wasn't kinda strange even then

 

[ben_reck]

I'll admit to enjoy hammering the level up system.

 

[Jaesun]

I should do a Dungeon Craft version of this game (the levels). At least then the Leveling Up process would be actually enjoyable.

 

[DefJam101]

I can't seem to withdraw my characters from the temple. Anyone else having this issue?

Jaesun

 

[Scroo]

I can't seem to withdraw my characters from the temple. Anyone else having this issue?

Jaesun

Are you playing with keyboard? Try hitting Enter.

 

[DefJam101]

I can't seem to withdraw my characters from the temple. Anyone else having this issue?

Jaesun

Are you playing with keyboard? Try hitting Enter.

Yeah, fixed. I rebound select to F but forgot to clear the 'info' keybind.

 

[ben_reck]

yeah, took me a while to figure out the UI sequence for resurrecting pc's. apparently the F key has some utility in dungeons.

 

[Jaesun]

yeah, took me a while to figure out the UI sequence for resurrecting pc's. apparently the F key has some utility in dungeons.

Yes, press F to search an area.

 

[ben_reck]

OK, if I'm not mistaken, I think your characters age when you're not playing the game. I'll pause the game in a dungeon, return the next day, and three days will have passed.

 

[ben_reck]

Hmm, I need to be able to breathe underwater for more then one minute. At least I would like to be able to do that. Some feat of forging?

 

[SuicideBunny]

Hmm, I need to be able to breathe underwater for more then one minute. At least I would like to be able to do that. Some feat of forging?

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...rawler-coming-to-pc.91683/page-4#post-3497593

 

[ben_reck]

haha, I made six but now I'm thinking I only needed one of the seeds.