rusty_shackleford
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I disagree. I'm in act 3 and still running with rare 2h sword from early act 2 and it's not even good. Just everything i get is even worse. Seriously - even checking items before selling them to vendor seems like waste of time. Everything is useless.* Decent itemization.
I'm with Reinhardt on this one. The itemization is dogshit and I haven't upgraded my gear since level 40 because all the supposedly level 60 gear I find is worse. That's 20 levels of nothing. Only thing I've changed are the gems.
Nigga, i have to run to the city and sell inventory full of yellow stuff at least once on every location. Wolcen drops LOTS of loot. It's just all boring and useless.in fact it is worse in some of those games because you get a lot more loot than in Wolcen that is still worthless garbage.
Nigga, i have to run to the city and sell inventory full of yellow stuff at least once on every location. Wolcen drops LOTS of loot. It's just all boring and useless.in fact it is worse in some of those games because you get a lot more loot than in Wolcen that is still worthless garbage.
But it's retarded barb that can't shout while moving/channeling skills, leap over any obstacle or between different heights.
Those exact scenarios are almost impossible in D3 (due to the very formulaic rares and that most of loot will drop with your main stats) and very rare in PoE early game.What the actual fuck, that happens in EVERY damn hack and slash game. This happened to me during playthroughs in D1, D2, D3, Titan Quest, Torchlight 1+2, PoE, GD and Sacred 1+2. Fucking non argument, in fact it is worse in some of those games because you get a lot more loot than in Wolcen that is still worthless garbage.
I disagree. I'm in act 3 and still running with rare 2h sword from early act 2 and it's not even good. Just everything i get is even worse. Seriously - even checking items before selling them to vendor seems like waste of time. Everything is useless.* Decent itemization.I'm with Reinhardt on this one. The itemization is dogshit and I haven't upgraded my gear since level 40 because all the supposedly level 60 gear I find is worse. That's 20 levels of nothing. Only thing I've changed are the gems.
What the actual fuck, that happens in EVERY damn hack and slash game. This happened to me during playthroughs in D1, D2, D3, Titan Quest, Torchlight 1+2, PoE, GD and Sacred 1+2. Fucking non argument, in fact it is worse in some of those games because you get a lot more loot than in Wolcen that is still worthless garbage.
I disagree. I'm in act 3 and still running with rare 2h sword from early act 2 and it's not even good. Just everything i get is even worse. Seriously - even checking items before selling them to vendor seems like waste of time. Everything is useless.* Decent itemization.I'm with Reinhardt on this one. The itemization is dogshit and I haven't upgraded my gear since level 40 because all the supposedly level 60 gear I find is worse. That's 20 levels of nothing. Only thing I've changed are the gems.
What the actual fuck, that happens in EVERY damn hack and slash game. This happened to me during playthroughs in D1, D2, D3, Titan Quest, Torchlight 1+2, PoE, GD and Sacred 1+2. Fucking non argument, in fact it is worse in some of those games because you get a lot more loot than in Wolcen that is still worthless garbage.
You're wrong with this post. Let me elaborate:
Most of the games you mentioned have areas or bosses designed to be farmed for loot, with an almost 100% guarantee that you'll find items of the highest rarity. In Diablo 1 you even have deterministic unique items depending on what quests you've rolled for. In most recent ARPGs there are also uber bosses who are guaranteed to drop items of the highest rarity. But in Wolcen? Even the Uber bosses drop nothing at all. The vid below shows the reaction of a player who went through all the trouble to kill the final uber boss of Wolcen and how his efforts were rewarded with.. nothing.
If you're going to make a hamster wheel gear treadmill then you better make sure that the loot is both exciting and frequent enough to keep players hooked. Otherwise they will get bored. Wolcen has lots of item drops too, that's not the issue. The issue is that like in PoE most of it is garbage, and even when you do find something good, it's not all that interesting.
Most of these uniques are obsolete after the first playhtough and most of them are worthless for the individual character. Griswold's Edge on Sorcerer or Rouge? Harlequin's Crest on Warrior or Rogue? Pff. The only decent uniques for all 3 character classes where Arkaine's Valor and Veil of Steel, though the former becomes obsolete fairly quickly already on first playthrough. Both are random though and you can easily not get either.
Yeah so what about the drop from that boss? I got 4 Stamina potions from Duriel as quest kill. Bosses frequently drop blues and whites all over. Nothing new under the sun.
Most of these uniques are obsolete after the first playhtough and most of them are worthless for the individual character. Griswold's Edge on Sorcerer or Rouge? Harlequin's Crest on Warrior or Rogue? Pff. The only decent uniques for all 3 character classes where Arkaine's Valor and Veil of Steel, though the former becomes obsolete fairly quickly already on first playthrough. Both are random though and you can easily not get either.
Yeah so what about the drop from that boss? I got 4 Stamina potions from Duriel as quest kill. Bosses frequently drop blues and whites all over. Nothing new under the sun.
Talk about a non argument. So? No one is asking that every piece of loot should be always good for your character. Just good loot in general is nice, because it gives you an inspiration to think of new character builds to try out. Again, in Wolcen you're not getting good loot for yourself or future characters. It's all bland crap heightened by the fact that there's nothing out there to farm for guaranteed drops.
And in Wolcen there is nothing worthy to even put in shared stash. THAT'S the problem. Everything is vendor trash. I tried to store some "decent" low level items at first but then it became clear i will just find exact same boring shit on new character. +-1% to some stat. You are never exited about your loot here. And for this genre it's fail.Most of the time it just collects dust in the shared stash.
Because upgrades are also exciting. Also nice argument, "I don't like to collect loot therefore no one else should care to do it either" huh?Most of these uniques are obsolete after the first playhtough and most of them are worthless for the individual character. Griswold's Edge on Sorcerer or Rouge? Harlequin's Crest on Warrior or Rogue? Pff. The only decent uniques for all 3 character classes where Arkaine's Valor and Veil of Steel, though the former becomes obsolete fairly quickly already on first playthrough. Both are random though and you can easily not get either.
Yeah so what about the drop from that boss? I got 4 Stamina potions from Duriel as quest kill. Bosses frequently drop blues and whites all over. Nothing new under the sun.
Talk about a non argument. So? No one is asking that every piece of loot should be always good for your character. Just good loot in general is nice, because it gives you an inspiration to think of new character builds to try out. Again, in Wolcen you're not getting good loot for yourself or future characters. It's all bland crap heightened by the fact that there's nothing out there to farm for guaranteed drops.
What? The initial complaint was whether the loot is an upgrade or not. What does it matter if the items is "exciting" when it is literally useless for my character and I have long given up on collecting every garbage unique in hopes I might in the distant future use it on another. Most of the time it just collects dust in the shared stash.
I get plenty of character ideas just from looking at the damn passive tree no need for uniques and I know that there are game changing unique items out there like two handed sword that lets you cast lightning spells or a shield that lets you cast holy spells.
Nigga, i have to run to the city and sell inventory full of yellow stuff at least once on every location. Wolcen drops LOTS of loot. It's just all boring and useless.in fact it is worse in some of those games because you get a lot more loot than in Wolcen that is still worthless garbage.
Wolcen showers you with completely useless loot. So your argument defeated long ago.POE showers you with loot, so does D3 and grim dawn. Argument defeated.
Both, some are just numerically better and some have interesting modifiers.How does a unique in Wolcen look like in terms of itemization? Is it purely +/- damage increases or does it have more interesting modifiers?
Wolcen showers you with completely useless loot. So your argument defeated long ago.POE showers you with loot, so does D3 and grim dawn. Argument defeated.
How does a unique in Wolcen look like in terms of itemization? Is it purely +/- damage increases or does it have more interesting modifiers?