World of Whorecraft: Battle for Asseroth

[Hoaxmetal]

Crafting is shit in Draenor, don't waste your time with that. Garrisons give a lot of herbs/ores even without the professions and crafted gear is too expensive and behind daily limits, it's easier just to do some LFRs and stuff.

 

[Ulminati]

So switch to double gathering and sell on AH?

 

[Revenant]

Professions have been kind of trivialized in WoD, so your question is rather irrelevant. You don't even have to have a profession to access a large part of its benefits - profession themed garrison buildings will serve many of your needs by performing work orders for crafting mats and producing items for you. Yes, you can make some extra gold if you actually have a profession, but it's generally not worth the hassle.

You already made a mistake by bothering with professions until level 90 - Draenor recipes can be crafted at profession level 1, so you can level a profession 1-700 just in Draenor (level 90-100), with Draenic mats.

To maximize your profits, you may switch to two gathering professions - Herbalism and Skinning would probably be of the biggest benefit. The deal is, current endgame zone - Tanaan Jungle - yields a crafting material called Felblight from all gathering nodes. Felblight currently sells ~300 gold each, and you can get a dozen an hour of these using one gathering profession, should be able to get more if using two. Plus, crafting mats you gather from the nodes themselves are still worth quite a bit on the AH, so you'll have two sources of income instead of one. Aside from gathering professions, maybe Tailoring is worth mentioning, because bags are always expensive.

 

[Hoaxmetal]

You won't make good gold, as I said the garrisons give out a ton of free mats already.

Edit: I guess it has changed in the last patch. Still, professions are in the worst state that they've ever been.

 

[Ninjerk]

So I'm lv89 on my Death Knight in Pandaria. At the moment I'm alchemy/herbalism on him. Does anyone have a good source on what to do with professions once I hit 90 and Draenor content sometime tonight? Do I stick with herb/alchemy? Do I swap alchemy for mining? Do I go mining/blacksmithing? Help me obi wan pandoki! You're my only hopw!

play on nostalrius

 

[Echo Mirage]

And here I was thinking that gem crafting and Inscription had taken a hit.

How do people make their money now?

When it as last playing it was all mats and flasks. I make some good money on the blacksmiths daily mats.

 

[Revenant]

Just switched to sniping the auction house, and boy was Angthoron right: I should have done that much sooner. The profits are just way higher than any kind of farming could do, and all it requires is sitting on your ass while occassionaly clicking a mouse button and earning a few kilos of gold just like that. Really, people - if you need money, play the AH, nothing comes remotely close to that.

 

[Zed]

what's the scoop on AH then? what's a good product to look for.

 

[Revenant]

You aren't looking for a specific product on the AH, that's not how it works. Basically, you are using an add-on to look for any items that are posted way below their market price. See this guide:

www.wowhead.com/guide=196/sniper-mastery-millionnaires-wow-gold-guide-advanced

Although it is currently outdated (being written at the time of MOP), you can still use it to the point where it tells to make custom groups. You don't need that part if you are willing to weed out the bad deals yourself - applying this guide carbon-copy is only necessary if you want to never think what you're doing. If you are willing to put minimum effort (amounting to reading a few lines of text every few minutes), just apply this guide until setting custom groups (those big walls of text).

Basically, what you want to do is:

1. Install TradeSkillMaster, TSM_Shopping, TSM_AuctionDB, TSM_Apphelper addons;
2. Create an account on tradeskillmaster.com;
3. Download the TSM app and the auction data with it;
4. Start sniping at n% min(dbhistorical, dbglobalhistorical), where n is a percentage adjusted for your server;
5. ...
6. Profit!

(and I mean insane profit. Seriously, the other day I bought a BoE epic for 13k gold and the same day sold it for 20k)

 

[Angthoron]

You'll need to observe the market a bit, but rule of the thumb is: when new tiers are out, new craftable epics and new epic loots will have a decent chance of making cash as long as you don't over-invest; otherwise, it's the following for your day-to-day profiteering:

1) Consumables (food & booster pots primarily)
2) Crafting materials (usually low profit margin, but you can usually grind/craft something out of those, or convert to consumables. I made thousands in WotLK just buying and cooking fish, buy a stack for 25-50g, sell for 250g)
3) Unique gear (may take a while to get a buyer, but if you see something that can't be crafted anymore, for example...)

Otherwise, hard to say. Get some addons like Auctioneer, keep scanning daily, build up a solid base for your server average prices, start sniping.

Fake edit: Or addons that Revenant mentioned.

Just watch out with the epic purpls - they have a limited time of opportunity for making a profit with, as the post-patch days move along, the prices on those will usually collapse, so never, ever bet on the purpls market unless you know what you're doing.

 

[Revenant]

Yeah the purple BoE was a dangerous example on my part, because in the long run you can actually lose money ivesting this way. The most safe way of using the sniper is picking the cheap greens (10-100 gold per item), then selling them for a few kilo each because they are valuable transmog gear, but the seller doesn't know that. You won't get broke by buying a load of greens for a few dozen gold each, but the profit will be in the thousands.

 

[Icewater]

Professions aren't anywhere near as useful as they used to be but they can be a very easy and consistent source of money/gear upgrades. Jewelcrafting and Enchanting are both pretty good, especially now with people constantly replacing gear. Inscription and Tailoring are also good choices. There's hardly any reason to have a gathering profession now though since there are so many alternate ways to get materials.

 

[Aildrik]

If you are willing to level a few alts, you can fill out all of your follower slots with the increased gold from missions perk and just run garrison missions for literally free money. Between all my alts, I would rake in thousands of gold just on missions and the salvage yard. Without a doubt you can make a profit on the AH but I never had the patience for it.

 

[Revenant]

Treasure hunters have been nerfed heavily in the recent patch, or so I heard.

 

[Angthoron]

Treasure hunters have been nerfed heavily in the recent patch, or so I heard.

Fewer Treasure missions from what I've understood.

 

[Revenant]

Yes, the exact way to formulate this would be fewer missions rewarding gold in general and diminishing returns of gold missions with alts.

 

[Metro]

In an upcoming patch, we’ll be adding a feature that allows you to act as a mercenary for the opposite faction in PvP. Whenever your faction is experiencing a long wait time to get into Ashran or unrated Battlegrounds, agents of the enemy faction will appear in your base in Ashran (Stormshield for the Alliance, Warspear for the Horde). These agents will allow you to enter Ashran or Battlegrounds disguised as an enemy player, and actually fight as the opposite faction.

When you compete as a mercenary, you’ll still earn all the same rewards you would have by winning or losing as your own faction (with the exception of faction-specific achievements). You’ll also have your race automatically changed into one appropriate for the opposite faction while you’re still inside the Battleground or Ashran. Perhaps most importantly, however, you’ll experience much shorter queue times, as our matchmaking system will be able to fill up groups much quicker!

 

[Revenant]

Nobody cares about Ashran anyway

 

[Zetor]

RIFT implemented the same mercenary system 3 years ago. It's pretty much a "we don't know how to fix this, stop bitching" solution... though I'm sure this will just lead to more bitching and griefing because a lot of wow players seem to have a fanatical devotion to their faction and complete contempt for the other.

Next stop: removing pvp servers so players won't suffer from the 3:1 population imbalances while leveling / doing daily chores / doing whatever the fuck people do in tanaan jungle?

 

[Metro]

RIFT implemented the same mercenary system 3 years ago. It's pretty much a "we don't know how to fix this, stop bitching" solution...

This is the main problem. It's all they do with WoW today. Bandages to keep it afloat. Of course there hasn't been an incentive for them to do anything with it for years now.

 

[Aildrik]

I am baffled by the state of PvP. I remember during Vanilla era the epic AV matches that would go on, sometimes, for days and the fanatical effort that both sides put into it. Farming hides, sneaking in and taking a mine, etc. They were totally epic battles. How did we go from that to the complete failfest that is Ashran?

 

[Cyberarmy]

My collage buddy fought in AV for nearly 20 hours and he got in after several hours of start. Glorious days.

 

[Kane]

 

[Ulminati]

Needs more Outland!

 

[Ulminati]

So I've been playing some battlegrounds and arenas.... good god, people are tense there. Chat isn't quite as angry as LoL, but it gets close at times. And people are simultaneously hugely intolerant of newbies and quick to cocede a game even though it's only 4 minutes in.
Ah well. I found 4 sensible bros to queue with yesterday and Eye of the Storm kept popping for a good 900-1100 honor per game with the current bonus. I had to idle at the heirloom merchant in orgrimmar since I kept hitting the honor cap. Good times. Also, it was crossrealm group, so we ended up on a PvP server. Warspear was flooded with ~100 alliance with russian names murdering all the merchants.

I'm sort of regretting rolling DK though. I've trouble sticking to targets, since everyone has more CC and dashes than I have CC breakers. I can asphyx and pull, but both are on long cooldowns. At the same time, my burst is not large enough to kill most people even if I manage to interrupt their healer. (Unlikely since my interrupt is melee range and the healer has enough ways to push me away long enough to get most of their health back). Most 2v2 arenas end with me doing a full burst cycle of all my runes and self boosts, which will take ~66% of someones health. Then they get healed back up to full and all my stuff is on CD.