Worst moment in a cRPG

[denizsi]

It's Zevran's line from Dragon Age.

Gotta love how fans love to make him a complete total faggot tranny

So who's up for a little experiment? The objective is to pick up (real) girls in a bar, or similarly conveniant places, using only lines from Bioware games.

I imagine maybe a quarter of them might even work!

 

[Ghoulem]

There was a bug in VTMB where after you've killed Grünfeld Bach you had to flee to a boat and everytime you've got to the boat the game would crash. I talked to Johansen so many times and started running for the boat, but it crashed hard every fucking time. And you couldn't save after talking to him because of the bomb timer.

 

[Xor]

Ah yeah that happened to me too. They fixed it in a patch, though.

 

[Noddy]

Personal one:

Finding out Macbeth was Ravel but being way to tired to understand it. Pisses me off to this day. If i ever replay torment it'll be for that sole plot point.

 

[SCO]

That would be a fucking amazing plot point, macbeth being ravel, that would. a whole new meaning to that 'to-morrow and to-morrow and to-morrow', clearly ravel's coming to grips with the existential angst of mortality after seeing what happened with tno.

Spoiler

You can 'save' Ravel if you visit macbeth whit a black barbed seed in your inventory after the TO fights her.

 

[Jaesun]

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You can 'save' Ravel if you visit macbeth whit a black barbed seed in your inventory after the TO fights her.

FFFFUUUUU! I've played Torment so many times and I am STILL finding shit I didn't know you could do! Now I have to play it yet again.

 

[SCO]

Did you

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Eat 100 rats (... or was it 500) and go buy tattoos? Truly a ridiculous obscure thing

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realize that all situations in curst in carceri can be defused peacefully except for getting the key off a guard in the underground prison - maybe that too with a thief

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managed to join the chaos insect faction? Its the only one that allows one to join another faction for real i think - the anarchists are faking it

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Rat pharod out to the strongman of the upper trash area (you can lie too i think)

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there are some thief characters that can improve your thief skills - one of them i think if you try to pickpocket him

 

[Terror Teats]

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You can 'save' Ravel if you visit macbeth whit a black barbed seed in your inventory after the TO fights her.

Wait, which old fat lady is that? The one in the buried village who digs in your guts for you (Marta?), or the one that mages you up?

 

[madbringer]

Now i have to go play Torment again.

 

[Jaesun]

Did you

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Eat 100 rats (... or was it 500) and go buy tattoos? Truly a ridiculous obscure thing

No, never did that either. Will do that on my next replay. Thanks!

 

[SCO]

I put more in the post.

Teats: the mage one.

 

[Radisshu]

Wait, Macbeth? What the fuck have I missed?

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It's pretty cool how TNO can call upon tree-creatures for himself in the Ravel fight if he's a powerful enough mage. I don't know what this is based on, though. Intelligence score, level, or having taken lessons from Ravel? Also, how being a mage lets you have various teachers, from Ignus to Ravel. It makes it more interesting plot-wise.

 

[Terror Teats]

fanks.

 

[Jaesun]

I put more in the post.

Teats: the mage one.

I hate you SCO. :wink:

 

[SCO]

There are some options for the not so intelligent TNO, based on speed, charisma or strength, but they are not so many. I quite like it when they appear.

Quest planing is a lost art, BIS and Troika seem like the only ones that could do the time investment to plan things out instead of hiring a writer that thinks a single "epik" thread suffices even for simple things like this.

 

[SCO]

Another thing, about morte

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His special ability, the litany of curses can be improved. Copying from some site because i forgot:
# Speak to a Harlot in the Hive. When Morte asks you for money to go with the Harlot, tell him to forget it and that you're probably saving him from dying twice. The Harlot insults you, teaching Morte new insults in the process.
# Also in the Hive, find Jhelai for Craddock. When you return to Craddock, tell him the truth about what Jhelai said. Morte will learn something from Craddock's resulting outburst.
# In the Brothel of Slating Intellectual Lusts, ask Kimaxsi Adder-Tongue if she can teach Morte to be more abusive. She can.
# In the Lower Ward, enter the Pawn Shop and get Miccah and Brocah to argue.
# In Clerk's Ward, buy the Gorgon Salve in the Curiosity Shoppe. Then enter the Galleria and use the Gorgon Salve on the stone statue to bring him back to life. He will issue his terrible curse, improving Morte's Litany (and killing you).

Also:

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In the lower ward : Yi'minn is a Githyanki, who are the arch-enemies of the Githzerai. If you have Dak'kon in your party, you will be hard pressed to keep the two from fighting. You should leave Dak'kon at a safe distance before speaking to Yi'minn.

If you haven't helped An'azi, Yi'minn refuses to speak to you.

Once you have helped An'azi and left Dak'kon out of sight, approach Yi'minn and speak to him. He will offer to help you find your lost memories; you will just need to follow him to a secluded place. If you fall into his trap, he leads you to the alley between the Warehouse and the Print Shop where five of his comrades turn up and surround you. You will have the choice between fighting them, or letting them kill you. Let them kill you, and you will learn from their conversation that they are plotting a raid on the Githzerai fortress of Vristigor. Take this information back to Kii'na at 5 for 8,000 XP.

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got ALL of the stories for that prostitute at the bordel? There are a LOT some that require characters in the party, others that only appear when you do some quests, or advance the main quest - there is a tatto as a reward if you tell all of them to her

 

[bhlaab]

I don't remember exactly, was that the mine where you had to go to get somebody's shoe or something like that? If so, I don't remember anything particularly bad about that.

Bates sends you there to discover the whereabouts of the Black Mountain Clan, for some reason I can't remember, just before you get sent to the Isle of Despair. It's about five levels deep, full of annoying golems and totally devoid of interest, it's just an absolute mind-numbing slog in an otherwise great part of the game.

Okay, I just played this part and what the fuck that was nothing. I was all nervous to go in there because of you and it's honestly a less annoying dungeon crawl than anything in Baldur's Gate

 

[Radisshu]

I don't remember exactly, was that the mine where you had to go to get somebody's shoe or something like that? If so, I don't remember anything particularly bad about that.

Bates sends you there to discover the whereabouts of the Black Mountain Clan, for some reason I can't remember, just before you get sent to the Isle of Despair. It's about five levels deep, full of annoying golems and totally devoid of interest, it's just an absolute mind-numbing slog in an otherwise great part of the game.

Okay, I just played this part and what the fuck that was nothing. I was all nervous to go in there because of you and it's honestly a less annoying dungeon crawl than anything in Baldur's Gate

Whaat? I mean, I prefer Arcanum over BG (brofist), but ... really?

 

[bhlaab]

dungeons in baldur's gate just keep going and going and going. the black mountain mines were 4 incredibly tiny floors and one almost kind of medium sized floor.

And at least you can hit the fucking golems without a +4 weapon

 

[Radisshu]

I think dungeons in the Infinity engine worked much better than dungeons in Arcanum, though.

 

[Mangoose]

Yeah. You didn't have trouble with your weapons destroying themselves on the golems?

 

[bhlaab]

Yeah. You didn't have trouble with your weapons destroying themselves on the golems?

Well I use firearms which probably helped but I was generally able to go back to tarant whenever i needed ammo and/or repairs

 

[Radisshu]

I didn't really have that problem. I mean, they were damaged, but they never broke. I mostly used spares anyway.

The thing, though, is that Arcanum combat sucks even more than BG combat.

 

[bhlaab]

in realtime mode certainly but in turn based it's still preferable to the old RTwP clusterfucks.

Not that it's not annoying. I really wish they would have looked at Armor Class and Dodge Skill and just fucking picked one or the other because having both really fucks things up.

 

[Radisshu]

Infinity combat isn't a strategic masterpiece, but it is hardly a clusterfuck. I actually prefer it to Arcanum's turn-based combat.