Decline Wrath of the Righteous is even worse than Kingmaker (which was already shit)

[Nifft Batuff]

after you've played hundreds of cRPGs

But the fact is that there aren't so many cRPGs around... cRPGs are still a niche, you can count the relevant cRPG of the last years on a couple of hands. And these are still more and better than those of the previous decade. In this context, to declare PF:WotR the advent of the antichrist, only because is not Perfection Incarnate, it's a bit stupid. Like this thread.

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

Autists will screech about their shit autism personified game being criticized, nothing new. What is funny though is many of those same spergs spend the rest of their time screeching about SJW and woke but still must consume product which has what they supposedly hate.

 

[Beaver Gaming]

Basically this thread:
Retard 1: How I choose to waste my time is superior to your way to waste time.
Retard 2: Actually your way to waste time is gay and retarded.

Repeat.

 

[LabRat]

I don't like the redemption stories in Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous. This is actually a Liliana-style redemption. They don't have to pay much to be redeemed because others can bear the consequences for them.

 

[Vic]

But the fact is that there aren't so many cRPGs around...

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

What a piece of shit steam is. Go to the List of RPGs thread if needed (first page + last 3 pages) to look at RPGs. Can ctr+f combat, setting, etc. with the tags added.

Only 2 of those are cRPGs and they're both Larian. What a joke.

 

[Vic]

Only 2 of those are cRPGs and they're both Larian. What a joke.

Are you saying WotR is not a CRPG?

 

[MerchantKing]

Kamgmaker is still better than WotR to this day. The only thing WotR has over it is some convenience features.

But the fact is that there aren't so many cRPGs around...

>workplace fantasy
>disco elysium
Two games that aren't crpgs. But the first one might be if c stands for "coomer."

 

[BosanskiSeljak]

But the fact is that there aren't so many cRPGs around...

I saw "Enhanced Edition", so no that is not a cRPG, that is a grift.

 

[the mole]

the literal biggest problem with the pathfinder games is feat interactions with everything and abilities and does this work with this, and if you're new to pathfinder atleast in kingmaker you don't even know what feats lead to what

if you don't install toybox and test everything you could have just spent 10 hours on a build you think will work but for some reason it doesn't, now you have to respec and your class fantasy is fucked, the entire reason you're playing the game really

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I saw "Enhanced Edition", so no that is not a cRPG, that is a grift.

It's the default Steam page for the game though, not a separate listing (and the non-enhanced version doesn't exist as a separate product). Same as with DOS2's 'definitive edition'.

 

[Desiderius]

Eh, after you've played hundreds of cRPGs, you kinda get tired of doing "trash mobs" aka having chores. Simple fights are necessary for the players to familiarise themselves with the combat system and making the player feel like they've grown stronger and better at the game. But I really don't want to devote tens of hours into repetitive filler.

You can't win everyone. There are a lot of people who like the grind, maybe Owlcat likes to cater to that crowd more. Though I find it likely that even the majority of that segment likes the idea of big lengthy games more than they actually like following through with their playthroughs...

I realized I had four playthroughs on hold between end of Labyrinth and middle of Fane. Seems like that’s where the critical bloat mass is.

 

[Desiderius]

the literal biggest problem with the pathfinder games is feat interactions with everything and abilities and does this work with this, and if you're new to pathfinder atleast in kingmaker you don't even know what feats lead to what

if you don't install toybox and test everything you could have just spent 10 hours on a build you think will work but for some reason it doesn't, now you have to respec and your class fantasy is fucked, the entire reason you're playing the game really

The interface is a little unintuitive but the info is in fact there. Wrath does better job of class sheets making tradeoffs more explicit.

 

[onemananadhisdroid]

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I can't be the only one. I hope someday you'll join me. And the filler will die for once.