Yet Another Morrowind Thread

[Dwemer Puzzle Box]

On the subject of really good mods, I can't recommend Pax Redoran enough. Really, really good stuff, fleshes out a lot of places and characters (Llerar Mandas, Sudanit mine, Athyn Sarethi), and takes into account some quests usually associated with other factions - you can, for example, stop Dorvayn's Disguise quest from happening). There are some minor bugs, however, so if anyone's interested, try not to finish quests before they start.

EDIT: don't get me wrong, there are some parts that are poorly written, but it's nothing terribly offensive and still couple of gradients above usual Morrowind mods.

 

[Apostle Hand]

playing Morrowind

interesting shitty game

 

[Puukko]

God damn modders. I have spent a good dozen+ hours modding OpenMW following the guide on their site and have been ready to actually start playing for a few hours now if it wasn't for one mod that's giving me headache, BTB game improvements. I really like how it buffs birthsigns, but the mod also includes some robe replacements that do not work at all and give me lots of walking yellow exclamation marks. Well, disable those esp's and it's problem solved, right? Nope, changes nothing, and I even found a third party edit of the mod with just the character changes and no mention of any robes and it still gives those errors. What kinda fuckin spaghetti code is this?

Tracking down the culprit took a good while in the first place since who expects a game improvements mod to come with random textures and meshes?

Ah well, time to find a generic birthsign mod I guess.

 

[DraQ]

BTB is turds.
It has some nice ideas but the author went full retard with effectively making spellmaker useless.
Also some edits to alchemy ingredients are dumb - remember, snacking on raw glass is good for you.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

mods that do too much are usually junk

 

[zapotec]

He was also full of himself.

 

[Sigourn]

BTB's Game Improvements is fantastic as long as you remember it's not just a rebalance mod, but one that outright nerfs or removes some of the original game's mechanics.

 

[MWaser]

when I was modding OpenMW for myself recently I followed the guide lightly and skipped stuff like rebalance mods (and some of the texture packs I found to just be excessive waste of space), with the one notable balance mod I recall installing being ranged weapon/marksmanship rebalance which was mostly a buff -not really necessary but didn't really seem to break the game any more than it was already broken to begin with.

I also made the mistake of installing the Caldera Mine mod - I didn't read fully and had assumed it was only a terrain and visual overhaul, but instead it even ended up adding some amazingly dumb quest associated with it.

 

[DraQ]

mods that do too much are usually junk

Unless they are Requiem.

Mind you, it's not because Requiem has no junky stuff, just because its ratio of crucial game improvements to junk (measured in gameplay impact, NOT number of changes) is very high.

BTB's Game Improvements is fantastic as long as you remember it's not just a rebalance mod, but one that outright nerfs or removes some of the original game's mechanics.

Butchered Morrowind makes worse Skyrim than Skyrim.

If you want to play Skyrim, just play fucking Skyrim.

 

[Sigourn]

Butchered Morrowind makes worse Skyrim than Skyrim.

If you want to play Skyrim, just play fucking Skyrim.

Gamebreaking mechanics are not good game design and never will be.

 

[Puukko]

Was there some mod to make NPCs less intrusive? I literally just stood still for 10 seconds and got approached by 3 NPCs spouting some variant of "spit it out" while I wasn't even looking at them.

 

[Deleted Member 16721]

Was there some mod to make NPCs less intrusive? I literally just stood still for 10 seconds and got approached by 3 NPCs spouting some variant of "spit it out" while I wasn't even looking at them.

Pretty sure there is. Search for 'greeting distance '.

 

[DraQ]

Butchered Morrowind makes worse Skyrim than Skyrim.

If you want to play Skyrim, just play fucking Skyrim.

Gamebreaking mechanics are not good game design and never will be.

RPGCodex 2019:
"Removing spellmaker is incline, yo!"

 

[Sigourn]

RPGCodex 2019:
"Removing spellmaker is incline, yo!"

Removing broken features is incline, yeah. Especially because it makes the other features present in the game more useful. When you can break the game at will and unintentionally, then your features are no longer useful, but gimmicks.

 

[DraQ]

Removing broken features is incline, yeah.

Spoken like a true bethestard.

 

[Sigourn]

Spoken like a true bethestard.

Says the Morrowind player.

 

[DraQ]

Spoken like a true bethestard.

Says the Morrowind player.

Bethestard is a state of mind - something no bethestard actually understands.

 

[Sigourn]

Bethestard is a state of mind - something no bethestard actually understands.

You defend a broken Bethesda game. You are a certified Bethestard, friend. Go back to your FO76 server.

 

[MWaser]

Bethestard is a state of mind - something no bethestard actually understands.

You defend a broken Bethesda game. You are a certified Bethestard, friend. Go back to your FO76 server.

I'd have said spoken like a true Sawyerist, but seeing your attitude I'm afraid you might take it as a compliment.

 

[Wyatt_Derp]

Now I see why so many are addicted to Skooma. The message was there from the beginning, buried in the code.

 

[Sigourn]

I'd have said spoken like a true Sawyerist, but seeing your attitude I'm afraid you might take it as a compliment.

Sawyer balances games but makes them unfun in the process. What BTB's mod does is nerf certain mechanics but make others much more useful and much more fun to experiment with. And he makes sound arguments for everything, such as the removal of self-enchatments: you can't create your own spells, so why would you be able to create something that is infinitely more useful?

I do wish someone came up with a rebalanced Morrowind that didn't remove any existing mechanics.

 

[luj1]

God damn modders. I have spent a good dozen+ hours modding OpenMW following the guide on their site and have been ready to actually start playing for a few hours now if it wasn't for one mod that's giving me headache, BTB game improvements. I really like how it buffs birthsigns, but the mod also includes some robe replacements that do not work at all and give me lots of walking yellow exclamation marks. Well, disable those esp's and it's problem solved, right? Nope, changes nothing, and I even found a third party edit of the mod with just the character changes and no mention of any robes and it still gives those errors. What kinda fuckin spaghetti code is this?

Tracking down the culprit took a good while in the first place since who expects a game improvements mod to come with random textures and meshes?

Ah well, time to find a generic birthsign mod I guess.

There are many but choose between Expanded Birthsings for Purists (personal favorite), BAMF or Lore Friendly Birthsign Rebalancing.

https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/18016
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/17888
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/45494

EDIT:

Spoiler

Know that roughly 60% of mods (particularly old ones like BTB) are incompatible with OpenMW because it uses a different pipeline. There is no reason to opt for OpenMW other than multiplayer at this time, trust me. Coming from someone who modded obsessively and unhealthily for 10+ years and playtested hundreds of mods on dozens of different setups.

BTB's game improvements (especially the "Game Settings" plugin) is still the best balance mod after 15 years, it makes logical corrections that should have been in the vanilla game and gives you reasons to play differently. Don't listen to these bums.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Spoken like a true bethestard.

Says the Morrowind player.

That's not an insult, you n'wah.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

him: retarded skyrim baby
other guy: ancient morrowind boomer
me: enlightened oblivion connoisseur

 

[the mole]

Oblivion with OOO shits all over both of them