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Path of Exile is a MAJESTIC incline

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by raw, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. SirSingAlot Arbiter

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    anyone has deeper Delve experience?
    currently at 520 ish depth and i wonder if at some point rewards/nodes stop getting better thus making it smarter to move sideways than straight down
     
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  2. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Deeper delving increases chances of boss fights but if you are not into that you should have probably got to max ilvl and went sideways instead.
     
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  3. Sykar Arcane

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    I can reach over 40% physical damage reduction while having 0 armor.
     
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  4. Gerrard Arcane

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    :mca:
     
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  5. T. Reich Arcane

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    Right in the feels!
     
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  6. you know what time it is Arcane

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    That's some highly condensed autism, he isn't wrong for the most part tho, but such is the nature of f2p games, especially 'ethical' ones like PoE.

    You gotta keep churning out content updates (regardless of whether they suck or not) or else the vast majority of players will fuck off for good and since the game is quite great for the most part, they got a huge surplus of community's goodwill built over the years, so they can ignore QoL stuff for as long as they feel like it.

    Besides I heard a bunch of shit about working environment at GGG, It's not horrible by any means, but it's not a tightly run ship either, combine that with 3 months per league (during which you inevitably split the team in order to update the current league and work on the upcoming one) and you get what you get.
     
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  7. T. Reich Arcane

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    Delicious sauce plox?
     
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  8. you know what time it is Arcane

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    Just something I heard over the years, which isn't surprising at all considering how inefficiently 90% of the industry operates.
     
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  9. SirSingAlot Arbiter

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    finally sold my Angler's Plait ring on Standard...yay
     
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    [​IMG]

    so i am after a +1 max block corrupted Legacy Aegis Aurora for a while. suppose there isnt even one around at all.
    so i finally got a Corruption Altar (my very first)and well, lets say i didnt hit but didnt miss either
     
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  11. frajaq Arbiter

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    at this point all I can do is hope that 3.7 at least makes melee less miserable to play compared to other options
     
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  12. Gerrard Arcane

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    Flashback
    :dead:
    To think there's still a month left.
     
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  13. Zdzisiu Arcane

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    New Expansion! https://www.pathofexile.com/legion

    Basically Breach 2.0.

    And a lot of melee changes, not only number changes to skills but mechanical changes like animation canceling, instant movement skills.

    Rework of Gladiator and Berserker.

    Some new Jewels that look cool but I have no real idea about their power.

    Also, incubating eggs in your pants!
     
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  14. Perkel Arcane

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    GGG: Let's make melee into casting and let us drop all pretenses aka "melee fix"
    GGG: Here is another Breach league with another fucking retarded timer 5 time in row further incentivising speed over slower pace tactical gaming.

    I can't imagine how game will get even more retarded for 4.0 at the end of next year.
    At the time probably players will start with +100% movement speed and players will not have to even stop to attack or do something, players just will run around and skills will be used when players run past monsters automatically all at once.


    I just fucking hope Wolcen will finally come out and won't be shit. I can't wait to drop PoE properly.
    Tried multiple time Grim Dawn but it is fucking boring af.
     
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  15. Alpan Prophet Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    It is impossible for Path of Exile to incentivize slower pace tactical gaming because of the way the item drops are set up currently. No league design is going to compensate for the reality that most items that drop are junk and that there isn't nearly enough of a quantity and rarity difference between normal mobs and rare mobs/uniques/bosses to justify going slower. It requires a fundamental shift in GGG's reward philosophy to do that kind of overhaul to the loot system, but I don't think that'll happen any time soon.

    The game used to be a lot slower in 2013, and due to the above reason it also used to be a lot worse.
     
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  16. Gerrard Arcane

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    Best 3.X league confirmed
     
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    looks better than previous league so far which is a low fucking bar, but we'll see

    I really doubt they'll fix the core melee issues of PoE but I hope I can least have more fun with it this time
     
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    So, if I got the base mechanics of the league correctly:
    1) Click on the worldstone shard (or is it a protoss pylon?) to start a timer.
    2) During the timer, use the attacks to unfreeze the enemies/boxes.
    3) When the timer runs out, you get the loot from the unfrozen boxes and get to fight the unfrozen enemies that also drop loot (and shards).

    My conclusion: melee rework dead in the water.
    Run to the packs to unfreeze them in melee range (whatever stands for "melee" range these days anyway)?
    Why?
    I'd rather stand in place and spam multiproj bow/spell skills with chain/pierce to unfreeze ALL of the enemies out there, offscreen, too.
    And also instantly kill the chaff when they unfreeze.
    Of course, you still want to maximise your movement speed potential anyway.
    Also, character-centric aoe skill users are likely fucked, as are trappers (trap trigger time is WAY too slow for this shit) and melee minion summoners.
    I wonder if you need to score a hit on a frozen enemy, or if pure degen will also unfreeze them. Otherwise GG to the aoe degen builds as well.

    I suppose, the league is still WAY better than Synthesis, but as frajaq said - it's a pretty low bar...

    I might come back and see if it was the Synthesis micromanagement hell that drove me away from PoE, or if it's the micromanagement hell of PoE at large. Still on the fence on this one.
     
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  20. Reinhardt Arcane

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    I have lots of single player games to play so i don't even care for now.
     
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  21. lukaszek the determinator

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    that aukuna will make me want to try suicide zombies again...

    it sucks as i wanted ssf though
     
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  22. Perkel Arcane

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    Early PoE problem was lack of content not design and just polish on some things like better fx and responsiveness.
    For example i have no issues with what they are doing with animation system for melee for this expansion.

    Like you said you need to mow down coutless of trash mobs to get something good or you won't but also it is true that they introduced "monster patch" few years ago which effectively doubled amount of monster packs in game but halved amount of stuff you get from single monster.

    I watched GGG GDC video and they don't care about design anymore. They only care about revenue stream. They look at D3 players and so on.

    Like i said hopefully Wolcen will come out and be good game, they want to release first act in next month or something like that and they picked up speed in how fast they develop game.
     
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  23. Reinhardt Arcane

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    I remember times when you could die to monsters before endgame, not just to "new league lol one-shot"
     
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  24. Perkel Arcane

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    This patch at least has 2 good changes in it.

    animation rework
    left click will continue attacking next target after you kill monster much like grim dawn

    Which means that some skills like double strike, infernal blow etc will not feel clunky anymore as you won't be able to miss-click on ground and effectively not attack when you want to attack. This alone would do a lot to make melee better without making it worse design wise.
     
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  25. abija Liturgist

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    It just happens ranged benefit MORE from those :p

    The problem is their league mechanics PUNISH non blitz gameplay.
     
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