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Community The RPG Codex's Top 101 PC RPGs (With User Reviews!)

Discussion in 'RPG Codex News & Content Comments' started by felipepepe, Aug 4, 2019.

  1. Harry Easter Savant

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    It does. The different reactions to your choice of race and job are interesting, I love how powerful dialogue checks can be and how versatile the skill system is. The story is also still strong, even if you just run from A to B and back. All those ittle details make it good, but yeah, combat is crap and you fight a lot. Less maps would've done good and a better UI. And less, but more developed companions (Virgil and Magnus and Z'an Al'urin and Loghaire are great!) andandand. Still love it.
     
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  2. Jacob Hey, it's me, I Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    Roqua used to shill it as the best M&M game. For a while. Well, it sure has a more tactical combat than the most well-known M&M games (Xeen & VI).
     
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  3. HeatEXTEND Cipher Patron

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    So oblivion is actually on the list.......fagots.
     
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  4. tenki Literate

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    Was there a text list? If not:
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    001 Planescape: Torment
    002 Fallout
    003 Baldur's Gate II
    004 Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura
    005 Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
    006 Fallout 2
    007 Fallout: New Vegas
    008 Deus Ex
    009 Gothic II
    010 The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
    011 The Age of Decadence
    012 Dark Souls
    013 Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    014 Jagged Alliance 2
    015 The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
    016 UnderRail
    017 Gothic
    018 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
    019 Baldur's Gate
    020 Wizardry 8
    021 Neverwinter Nights 2
    022 Grimoire: Heralds of the Winged Exemplar
    023 System Shock 2
    024 Icewind Dale
    025 Betrayal at Krondor
    026 Pool of Radiance
    027 Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven
    028 Shadowrun: Dragonfall
    029 Wizardry VII: Crusaders of the Dark Savant
    030 Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
    031 Ultima VII: The Black Gate
    032 Divinity: Original Sin
    033 Divinity: Original Sin 2
    034 Kingdom Come: Deliverance
    035 Dark Sun: Shattered Lands
    036 The Witcher
    037 Ultima Underworld I: The Stygian Abyss
    038 ELEX
    039 Mount & Blade: Warband
    040 Might and Magic IV-V: World of Xeen
    041 The Temple of Elemental Evil
    042 Realms of Arkania II: Star Trail
    043 Dragon Age: Origins
    044 ATOM RPG: Post-apocalyptic indie game
    045 Pillars of Eternity
    046 Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
    047 Wizardry I: Proving Grounds of the Mad Overlord
    048 Darklands
    049 Battle Brothers
    050 Alpha Protocol
    051 Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar
    052 NierR: Automata
    053 King of Dragon Pass
    054 The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
    055 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    056 Dark Souls II
    057 Arx Fatalis
    058 Knights of the Chalice
    059 Elminage Gothic
    060 Mass Effect
    061 Dark Souls III
    062 Dungeon Master
    063 Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor
    064 Anachronox
    065 Divinity II: The Dragon Knight Saga
    066 Kenshi
    067 Might and Magic II: Gates to Another World
    068 Icewind Dale II
    069 Wizardry VI: Bane of the Cosmic Forge
    070 Diablo II
    071 Neverwinter Nights
    072 The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
    073 Ultima V: Warriors of Destiny
    074 The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
    075 Sengoku Rance
    076 Diablo
    077 NEO Scavenger
    078 Deus Ex: Human Revolution
    079 Quest for Glory IV: Shadows of Darkness
    080 Prey
    081 Geneforge
    082 Star Control II
    083 Expedition: Vikings
    084 Wasteland
    085 Drakensang: River of Time
    086 Space Rangers 2: Dominators
    087 Heroine's Quest: The Herald of Ragnarok
    088 Tales of Maj'Eyal
    089 Wasteland 2
    090 Divine Divinity
    091 Gothic 3
    092 Realms of Arkania I: Blade of Destiny
    093 Ultima Underworld II: Labyrinth of Worlds
    094 Undertale
    095 Tyranny
    096 Might and Magic X: Legacy
    097 Ultima VI: The False Prophet
    098 Lords of Xulima
    099 Wizards & Warriors
    100 Pools of Darkness
    101 The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
     
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  6. Naraya Arbiter

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    Still waiting for someone to "explain" to me why fully patched and modded Oblivion is such a bad game.

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    That's right - you just can't and you know it!
     
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  7. Themadcow Savant

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    Wizardry VI waaaay too far down the list, no doubt due to the kids preferring the sandboxy shit in Wiz 7 and 8. Fuck the weak graphics - it's still the best in the series.

    Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky in there but no Suikoden 2? Fucking twats. Don't you know it came out on PC in... err... China.

    Pools of Darkness shits all over Pools of Radiance. Getting through the body of Moander is probably the tricky bit (without a guide) tbh, but otherwise it is a sprawling masterpiece with some of the best maps/settings I've ever seen in a game.

    Shame not to see the Bards Tale Trilogy Remasters on there, but I guess it's tricky to make a strong case for any of them individually.
     
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  8. Danikas Savant

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  9. ZagorTeNej Arcane

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    Has almost nothing to do with nostalgia. Arcanum simply does things that no other RPG does, it's an extraordinarily ambitious game that still fullfils a good part of its potential which is why people overlook the flaws.

    It has a giant world to explore yet still is chock full of dialogue checks, near unparalled reactivity (to anything basically, from race/background to high magic/tech aptitutude), alternate ways of completing quests and it's all held together by some stellar writing and quest design. It's also set in an uncommon (for video games) setting and uses it very well instead of letting it go to waste. Not to mention the sheer freedom and variety present in the character creation. By variety, I don't mean your dps, tank, crowd control MMO crap that is utterly prevailent in modern RPGs but coming up with interesting thematic characters and being able to roleplay them to a degree that arguably no other game allows.

    To put it simply, Arcanum does the role-playing part of RPG arguably better than any other game ever made. By that virtue alone, it deserves a spot near the top (ahead of BG2 atleast, as much as I love it). It's one of the best examples of a flawed gem you'll ever see, the type of game that no one would even dare attempt to make today. Speaking of Troika in general, there's no doubt in my mind that the game industry lost something irreparable by its demise.
     
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  10. ERYFKRAD Barbarian Patron

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    Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    So where's the butthurt from the rest of the internet about the list?
     
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  11. Lemming42 Arcane

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    It's bold of you to assume anybody cares about this site enough to rehost the list.
     
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  12. Rahdulan Arcane Patron

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    As if general population ever got around to playing even half of these games. You'd just get basic bitching about why their favorite game isn't in spot X or Y. It would be interesting to see how someone could spin this list to portray the Codex as misogynistic or whatever. Because you know someone will do it.

    *paging ResetEra, paging ResetEra*
     
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  13. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    first response would be "where's skyrim"?
     
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  14. Maculo Prophet

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    For the most part, I am not surprised by the list, but I am surprised by some of the placements. Specifically, I am still amazed that Dark Souls, Witcher 3, and Pathfinder: Kingmaker are so high on recent Codexer lists (granted, I enjoyed those games). I find it interesting that the Codex scored Witcher 2 so much lower than Witcher 3. It has been many years, but I do not recall Witcher 2 being that much of a dip in quality compared to W3. Also, no System Shock 1 :(

    Glad to see Battle Brothers on the list though.
     
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  15. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Novelty factor. Look at many of the newer games in the 2014 version(~5 years within 2014) vs now, nearly all of them fell like a rock.
    AP -21 ranks
    DA:O -10 ranks
    KotC -31 ranks
    Witcher 2: -32 ranks
    Deus Ex HR: -22 ranks
    Drakensang TRoT: -33 ranks
    Risen: -55 ranks(!)
    Skyrim: -17 ranks
    Path of Exile: -40 ranks
    Grimrock: -66 ranks(!)
     
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  16. smaug Arcane Patron Shitposter

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    I will never understand PST beating Fallout.

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  17. Sigourn Arcane

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    I personally believe this could be done better if everyone voted on every game that's there. It doesn't feel right that games like Might & Magic II are above many others just because its nominators scored it higher. Especially because it wouldn't be uncommon for someone to assign less played games a higher score just to increase their visibiliity.
     
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  18. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    That's what I did. I didn't necessarily think they were the best games, but 4/5 of them were games that I knew weren't going to get very many votes.
     
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  19. Zer0wing Liturgist

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    Eh, on TES you are kind of right (because morrowind is valued not because of its connection to TES but for its rich lore, main quest and cool unconvential almost middle-eastern outlook. It's nothing like TES and Oblivion moves even further away from Morrowind, while Skyrim is again not even a Morrowind title) but with Fallout 3, you'll have your shits and retards fully deserved, or will if continue like that. Fallout 3 is not in any way serviceable shooter or serviceable rpg or serviceable anything. It's a missing link between a real gamebryo rpg (Fallout New Vegas) and serviceable diablo fps with sims elements (Fallout 4, though I don't agree with even that personally). Its rpg system is barebones and underused, its content is not enough to fill all of the worldspace with no radiant quests to fill the gaps, the writing quality is legendary. You DO know what I'm talking about but will you choose to pretend you don't and continue to act like someone who really deserves all those retards and shits?
     
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  20. PorkyThePaladin Arcane

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    Wow, what a shitty list. Should just burn it and pretend nothing happened since top 70.

    Oblivion and NWN 1 on the codex list.. There is no hope.
     
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  21. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Enough people believed it was the best RPG, and therefore it was so
     
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  22. Doktor Best Arcane

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    felipepepe

    I am honored that you picked my review, but i have written a revised version of it as the original was a smartphone post from another thread and had really questionable grammar:lol:

    Ill just leave it here if you happen to give enough of a damn to replace it

    When Wasteland 2 got released in 2014 after an extraordinarily successful Kickstarter campaign and a long winded development process with several delays, it unfortunately failed to live up to its expectations. However, Inxile released a revamped Directors Cut version which fixed many of the base game's flaws and is now a really fun mix between Fallout1 and regular combat oriented turn based S-Rpgs like X-Com or Jagged Alliance. The game is more linear and structured as its spiritual successors, but also a much larger one and you could even say that the different setpieces contain as much branching game progression as other rpgs in total. The different paths to solve a quest each pose various skill checks, though you can pass most of them easily if you skill your squad appropriately. The writing is decent and like Fallout filled with references and over the top trash movie charme like in Mad Max, Badlands or Solarbabies. The combat is fun, the itemization works, the perk system leads to some pretty interesting and unique playstyles, the quests are well crafted and filled with interesting C&C. So while you can argue wether or not Wasteland 2's still not stellar reputation among the codex is justified, you should also recognize that the few who did take a second look at the DC almost univocally came to the conclusion that it has much improved.
     
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  23. conan_edw Savant Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
    But where are the cool charts and the customized rankings?
     
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  24. Strange Fellow Arcane Patron

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    Fun to see my own name in prestigious Codex official content. :)

    Great job felipepepe!

    How would you vote on every game on the list when the vote determines the makeup of said list?
     
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  25. Sigourn Arcane

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    We have a very good selection of 101 that people considered worthy enough to be nominated and there was some form of consensus that got us these 101 games.
    Now all we would need to do is ask each mamber to rate each game on the list, and stack up the results. It's essentially what I did on my two polls, look at my signature. First I made a thread of nominations, and then asked members to rate each game.

    I also appreciate my review on the results, even if I never made it 1/4 of the way into ATOM RPG. :) Still knew enough about the game to recommend it.
     
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