Will you play Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2?

[udm]

Well, best of luck to Warhorse I guess. Maybe this was Dan's plan all along, riding on the waves of a runaway success that was built on top of a controversial hype machine to do the game he really wanted that could succeed financially.

.... but wasn't the first game a financial success?

As in, to guarantee a game aligned with his true ideologies would succeed.

 

[aweigh]

vavra is a BIGOT...

you can't CHOOSE to be gay.

 

[scytheavatar]

Well, best of luck to Warhorse I guess. Maybe this was Dan's plan all along, riding on the waves of a runaway success that was built on top of a controversial hype machine to do the game he really wanted that could succeed financially.

.... but wasn't the first game a financial success?

Success is all relative cause while KCD1 was a hit, it's a hit on the level of Witcher 2. And these people probably are after a hit on the level of Witcher 3 which is hard to achieve without appealing to a certain amount of normies.

Of course both KCD games looks nowhere near a CDPR level game so it was always going to be difficult for it to be more than a niche series.

 

[Tyranicon]

As in, to guarantee a game aligned with his true ideologies would succeed.

Judging from what he posts online, if he has any idealogy beyond amassing wealth and showing it off, I can't discern it.

Success is all relative cause while KCD1 was a hit, it's a hit on the level of Witcher 2. And these people probably are after a hit on the level of Witcher 3 which is hard to achieve without appealing to a certain amount of normies.

Of course both KCD games looks nowhere near a CDPR level game so it was always going to be difficult for it to be more than a niche series.

Lol if they think some niche historical game about medieval bohemia is going to reach the level of Witcher 3, in the midst of a industry-wide crisis, and especially after pissing on their core audience, they're in for a hilarious surprise.

 

[aweigh]

 

[scytheavatar]

Lol if they think some niche historical game about medieval bohemia is going to reach the level of Witcher 3, in the midst of a industry-wide crisis, and especially after pissing on their core audience, they're in for a hilarious surprise.

Don't forget Embracer was on the verge of bankrupcy 1 year ago, they have been in such a long losing streak that "merely" Witcher 2 level hits is not going to do anything for them. A Witcher 3 level hit will give them the margin to fund more flops, and that is why they are after it.

 

[Talby]

"But the gay sex scene and lecture from a brown muslim about feminism are optional." If you serve me a hamburger and a piece of shit on a plate, the fact that I can eat the burger and not the shit doesn't change the fact that you served me shit on a plate.

 

[Duplarius]

This whole situation is reminding me of Todd Phillips and Joker 2, a movie/game gets popular with normal men and then the creator self sabotages the sequel to 'own the chuds'. both vavra and phillips are Jews btw.

 

[Tyranicon]

Lol if they think some niche historical game about medieval bohemia is going to reach the level of Witcher 3, in the midst of a industry-wide crisis, and especially after pissing on their core audience, they're in for a hilarious surprise.

Don't forget Embracer was on the verge of bankrupcy 1 year ago, they have been in such a long losing streak that "merely" Witcher 2 level hits is not going to do anything for them. A Witcher 3 level hit will give them the margin to fund more flops, and that is why they are after it.

Betting the farm on KC:D2 is so monumentally dumb that I'm just going to assume it's true because that tracks.

 

[markec]

I tried playing the first game but didnt like it and I dont usually play sequels if I didnt finish the first game. Also adding gay sex and adding blacks into historical medieval setting certainly wont help the odds of me playing this.

 

[ZoddGuts]

The game was in development during the height of DEI/ESG inclusion in games. Embracer was all on it like with Saints Row, which killed the studio and IP. Warhorse adding the gay shit and the black dude is not a surprise. Probably was too late to take those things out when the gaming audience was starting to sour on games that had it around last year resulting in games bombing. The real question will be will Warhorse/Varva include it again for the next game when it's clear the gaming audience hate it. People might excuse it for this game because it was made during the woke/dei gaming era and probably forced upon them. But there won't be any excuses next time.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Again, that doesn't make it a "Christian game" and there was always a layer of mild liberalism and subversion in KCD1, but the devs' new comments only reinforce the same thing, which is that they used historicity, anti-wokeness, Christianity, etc. as a skinsuit for the first game, and then as soon as previous supporters criticize their change of direction, they're called grifters, nazis, and the like. Even the community comments about "no Christians being involved in the first game" only reinforces that. So, there were no Catholic historians, monks, etc. who could've had insight on what life was like in a medieval monastery, where you created an entire questline? "But we're so dedicated to history!"

wtf is a catholic historian?

A historian who focuses his research on the Middle Ages doesn't need to be Christian or even Catholic himself. He only needs to be knowledgeable about the period. If anything, a religious bias can be detrimental to his expertise.

 

[thesecret1]

Judging from what he posts online, if he has any idealogy beyond amassing wealth and showing it off, I can't discern it.

Right on the money. Vavra mocked Veilguard over DEI at the same time as he, in his own words, insisted on adding a kang to medieval Bohemia. He founded a platform (on which he published articles as late as last September) where he defended freedom of speech and shat on censorship, only for the Code of Conduct for his game to be one of the harshest out there (featuring bans for things like ableism and similar retardation), which was only retracted after it caused an outcry. He walked back on both his own statements ("No black people in medieval Bohemia. Period."), and that of his employees defending the first game (see the very eloquent explanatikn for why there are no gay romances in KCD1... only for Vavra to say the complete opposite come the sequel).

He is clearly an unprincipled, pigheaded yokel whose only interest is in flaunting his wealth like a nigger flashing his bling, while having a kneejerk reaction to any sort of criticism.

 

[markec]

Again, that doesn't make it a "Christian game" and there was always a layer of mild liberalism and subversion in KCD1, but the devs' new comments only reinforce the same thing, which is that they used historicity, anti-wokeness, Christianity, etc. as a skinsuit for the first game, and then as soon as previous supporters criticize their change of direction, they're called grifters, nazis, and the like. Even the community comments about "no Christians being involved in the first game" only reinforces that. So, there were no Catholic historians, monks, etc. who could've had insight on what life was like in a medieval monastery, where you created an entire questline? "But we're so dedicated to history!"

wtf is a catholic historian?

A historian who focuses his research on the Middle Ages doesn't need to be Christian or even Catholic himself. He only needs to be knowledgeable about the period. If anything, a religious bias can be detrimental to his expertise.

Everyone has biases, which is especially true in present day where modern atheist historians cant help but demonize Christianity and twist history to fit into their worldview.

If anything atheist historians in last few decades did more damage to field of historical research then centuries of Christian ones.

 

[NecroLord]

Again, that doesn't make it a "Christian game" and there was always a layer of mild liberalism and subversion in KCD1, but the devs' new comments only reinforce the same thing, which is that they used historicity, anti-wokeness, Christianity, etc. as a skinsuit for the first game, and then as soon as previous supporters criticize their change of direction, they're called grifters, nazis, and the like. Even the community comments about "no Christians being involved in the first game" only reinforces that. So, there were no Catholic historians, monks, etc. who could've had insight on what life was like in a medieval monastery, where you created an entire questline? "But we're so dedicated to history!"

wtf is a catholic historian?

A historian who focuses his research on the Middle Ages doesn't need to be Christian or even Catholic himself. He only needs to be knowledgeable about the period. If anything, a religious bias can be detrimental to his expertise.

Everyone has biases, which is especially true in present day where modern atheist historians cant help but demonize Christianity and twist history to fit into their worldview.

If anything atheist historians in last few decades did more damage to field of historical research then centuries of Christian ones.

They literally have entire ancient mythologies to pick from as game settings and settle instead to insert DEI garbage and sub-saharans into everything.

Pure trash.


Also let's face it:
KCD wasn't some masterpiece, thoguh it was good for what it was. A quite honest and fun depiction of medieval Bohemia. It was really more a sandbox than a legitimate rpg with good combat, skills, attributes, etc.

 

[cvv]

Based mods ftw is my option now.

It still looks like 98% of the game is gonna be grate and mods can fix the optional gay romance easily. You literally remove a few dialogue options and it's gone.

If my suspicion is correct and Musa is part of the MQ they won't be able to fix him at all. Which sucks. But I don't require perfection, I can play and enjoy a grate gaym with some turds in it, especially as a rabid fan of the first one.

But make no mistake, Warhorse forever lost my trust and Vavra lost my respect COMPLETELY. I stopped following him on X and FB because despite talking the good anti-DEI talk I can't take him as anything else than a ridiculous, retarded clown anymore.

And from what I'm reading a lot of people will do the same. If he really did all this to get that schweet schweet chance at some TGA recognition he'll pay a heavy personal price for that. And I suspect Keighley is gonna keep pretending the known racist gamergater doesn't exist anyway.

 

[Swen]

This is really dissapointing chudbros, looks like Larian is the only based rpg dev left.

 

[thesecret1]

despite talking the good anti-DEI talk I can't take him as anything else than a ridiculous, retarded clown anymore.

He was getting rather political in recent years, perhaps even eyeing a career in it, but I can't see him amount to much now. I don't think he even realizes it, lol

 

[Elttharion]

This is really dissapointing chudbros, looks like Larian is the only based rpg dev left.

 

[NecroLord]

despite talking the good anti-DEI talk I can't take him as anything else than a ridiculous, retarded clown anymore.

He was getting rather political in recent years, perhaps even eyeing a career in it, but I can't see him amount to much now. I don't think he even realizes it, lol

Always be wary of drama queens...

 

[harhar!]

The beauty part is that I'm already drowning in games. Even if I did grab this one on day one, I probably wouldn't get around to playing it for another 2-3 years, anyway. There is quite literally zero reason in this environment to buy any major release at full price, EXCEPT FOR personal loyalty/affection. Warhorse used to have mine.

It is baffling to me that developers would engage in a war with their own playerbase in this environment. Its crazy to me.

So many good games both old and new that replaying is a luxury most people in the hobby dont have, let alone giving money to someone that actively hates them.

I wish. What was the last good 3D, medieval, low/no fantasy aRPG? Last I can think of is KCD 1...