About an hour in to System Shock 2, so far, not impressed

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Am I the only one who actually LIKED the interface in SS1?

GUI was good, fixed binds and control methods were shit.

I liked them too, actually. After playing SS1 for an hour, I found piano to have shitty controls.

 

[DraQ]

Anyone who lets the game go past internal testing stage without having freely rebindable controls should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.
I don't care if 90% is using WSAD or something - 90% would probably not notice if you gave them noninteractive video instead of the game either.

 

[Infinitron]

Anyone who lets the game go past internal testing stage without having freely rebindable controls should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.
I don't care if 90% is using WSAD or something - 90% would probably not notice if you gave them noninteractive video instead of the game either.

Rebinding controls didn't really become a standard feature in games until the mid to late 90s, I think. SS1 was sort of on the edge of that period.

 

[Trash]

should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.

The autism is showing again. Just sayin'.

 

[Brayko]

The game has aged like wine considering all the other shit lately. Hell, first time I played was like a year ago and it blew me away with the tight mechanics and skill choices. Career paths also were very atmospheric and immersive. LOL @ people playing it like an action shooter and judging it by that.

 

[Average Manatee]

Anyone who lets the game go past internal testing stage without having freely rebindable controls should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.
I don't care if 90% is using WSAD or something - 90% would probably not notice if you gave them noninteractive video instead of the game either.

Rebinding controls didn't really become a standard feature in games until the mid to late 90s, I think. SS1 was sort of on the edge of that period.

Truly, the 90s were a wild and crazy time.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.

The autism is showing again. Just sayin'.

Controls are not rebindable to enjoy the game, trees are too high to fly the airplane.
Anyhoo, some of the games had both shitty and unrebindable controls, yet you could get used to it after some time and dedication.
But hey, we have no time for that! We want to press the awsum button and enjoy the show!

 

[dnf]

should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.

The autism is showing again. Just sayin'.

Agreed. Raping is enough

 

[Darth Roxor]

I always thought the System Shock 1 controls were actually pretty intuitive once you got used to them. At first they are overwhelming as hell and seem all over the place, but when you play for an hour or so, they actually turn out fairly organic and logical.

 

[Average Manatee]

should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.

The autism is showing again. Just sayin'.

Agreed. Raping is enough

But rape is worse than death.

 

[DraQ]

I always thought the System Shock 1 controls were actually pretty intuitive once you got used to them. At first they are overwhelming as hell and seem all over the place, but when you play for an hour or so, they actually turn out fairly organic and logical.

I don't care how awesome and intuitive they were if they were on the wrong end of the KB.

should be dragged in the street and shot in the head.

The autism is showing again. Just sayin'.

That's simply fabulous.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

I always thought the System Shock 1 controls were actually pretty intuitive once you got used to them. At first they are overwhelming as hell and seem all over the place, but when you play for an hour or so, they actually turn out fairly organic and logical.

I don't care how awesome and intuitive they were if they were on the wrong end of the KB.

Can't into left-handed controls?

 

[Darth Roxor]

I don't care how awesome and intuitive they were if they were on the wrong end of the KB.

You effectively have four different ways of moving around - numpad, zxcasd, mouse, arrows. Where's this "wrong end" you speak of?

 

[DraQ]

I don't care how awesome and intuitive they were if they were on the wrong end of the KB.

You effectively have four different ways of moving around - numpad, zxcasd, mouse, arrows. Where's this "wrong end" you speak of?

Looking up&down and position switching is on RFV and TGB, leaning is on QWE.

 

[Wizfall]

I tried the game recently after reading the excellent critics here.
Did not like it.
However it's not that surprising, i dislike FPS and i'm very bad playing them (i know it's not a true FPS but still).
The game was very difficult to me (on normal) and frustrating/unpleasant. Did not have any patience for the game too.
That makes me thought about all those people playing complex cRPG or strategic game like JA2 and complaining it's too difficult, incomprehensible etc...
I handle those game on the highest difficulty without problems, with a minimum of reload and even sometimes in iron man mode.
I'm never impatient with those kind of games too.
Well i discovered i'm the dumbfuck of FPS or RT cRPG

 

[Brayko]

The game was very difficult to me (on normal) and frustrating/unpleasant. Did not have any patience for the game too.
That makes me thought about all those people playing complex cRPG or strategic game like JA2 and complaining it's too difficult, incomprehensible etc...
I handle those game on the highest difficulty without problems, with a minimum of reload and even sometimes in iron man mode

You and I must be complete opposites because games like JA2 and more recently Expiditions: Conquistador combat are simply far too difficult for me.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Looking up&down and position switching is on RFV and TGB, leaning is on QWE.

Looking up and down + leaning is also on ctrl + arrows or ctrl + numpad.

You can also both lean and switch posture by clicking the dude in the top left corner.

Problem?

 

[Sodafish]

Looking up&down and position switching is on RFV and TGB, leaning is on QWE.

Looking up and down + leaning is also on ctrl + arrows or ctrl + numpad.

I've not played SS1. Are all the numpad controls mirrored elsewhere? If not, us tenkeyless users are fucked.

 

[DraQ]

Looking up&down and position switching is on RFV and TGB, leaning is on QWE.

Looking up and down + leaning is also on ctrl + arrows or ctrl + numpad.

You can also both lean and switch posture by clicking the dude in the top left corner.

Problem?

What if I want to move, shoot and look around simultaneously?

Or is there also a TB mode I somehow glossed over?

 

[AstroZombie]

I was never a huge fan of the drum n bass soundtrack, but I like the hydroponics music:

 

[Carrion]

I've not played SS1. Are all the numpad controls mirrored elsewhere? If not, us tenkeyless users are fucked.

I don't remember that, but you can use XCDShock (or TradeKeys) to change all of the key bindings to your liking. I'd recommend that to everyone, really, as I always thought the default controls more or less sucked.

 

[DraQ]

I probably would've liked them if I were right handed.

 

[Carrion]

Using SZXC blows. The numpad movement might be good if it wasn't Num 8 for going forward and Num 2 for going backward. The rest I could live with, or at least as far as I remember.

 

[Darth Roxor]

What if I want to move, shoot and look around simultaneously?

Then you press ZXCS + LMB + RFV

Not my fault you are made of inferior genetic stock

Using SZXC blows.

Almost the same thing as WSAD, don't see the big deal.

 

[DraQ]

Not my fault you are made of inferior genetic stock

My inter-hemisphere connector has better bandwidth allowing for better handling of complex tasks and context switching when solving problems.
I have superior spatial skills.
You're obsolete.

Finally,there is Sturgeon's law:

ninety percent of everything is shit

Including humans:

Globally, roughly 12% of men and 10% of women are left-handed.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handedness#cite_note-Papadatou-3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handedness#cite_note-Papadatou-3

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I wasn't so fond of it either matt, i always preferred deus ex and the thief games as a kid.