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Age of Wonders 4

anvi

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Some indie company needs to make a real new AoW. Especially now that AI can do half the work.
Conquest of Eo is essentially a new AoW.

Thanks I'll get that.

The name makes me think of this ole guy, Conquest of Eeyore!

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Lacrymas

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Pathfinder: Wrath

Zboj Lamignat

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It's a different beast than AoW when looking at a more general picture, but at the same time it's obviously inspired by AoW3 and in some ways much more similar to it than AoW4 is.
 

Raghar

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How far from AOW3 is AOW4? I thought I would never play it but kind of curious about what they did.
Short answer is crap that inherited the worst from Planetfall.

Frankly AoW3 became decent after backslash from players that said elven units are feeling the same as dwarven, and that's bad. Thus they added special features for each "class" units and tried to make generic types of units more different. Year of patches that introduced difference between species, and one expansion later it was playable game.

Also unit XP system gave motivation to not use them as sacrifices to win battles.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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Since people have mentioned AoW1 a couple of times and since it's a much more interesting subject than modern AoW, it got me thinking: was there ever a (semi)indie project/kickstarter/whatever to create a Warlords/AoW1-type of game? Fantasy tb strategy with very streamlined, but smooth and tight mechanics focused on cranking out armies, map control and decking out heroes by raiding lairs. I can't recall a single one and find it pretty weird. There's "spiritual follower" to pretty much every niche crap out there now and these games were fairly popular and still have decent communities built around them.
 

Lacrymas

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Since people have mentioned AoW1 a couple of times and since it's a much more interesting subject than modern AoW, it got me thinking: was there ever a (semi)indie project/kickstarter/whatever to create a Warlords/AoW1-type of game? Fantasy tb strategy with very streamlined, but smooth and tight mechanics focused on cranking out armies, map control and decking out heroes by raiding lairs. I can't recall a single one and find it pretty weird. There's "spiritual follower" to pretty much every niche crap out there now and these games were fairly popular and still have decent communities built around them.
Eador: Genesis I guess. AoW-style TBS isn't as popular as the Heroes-style.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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Hm, I never thought about Eador as "this kind" of game, but you might be onto something here.

Seeing a new game that draws from classics like Warlords and MoM in the same way AoW1 did would be super cool.
 

Tanaka

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Since people have mentioned AoW1 a couple of times and since it's a much more interesting subject than modern AoW, it got me thinking: was there ever a (semi)indie project/kickstarter/whatever to create a Warlords/AoW1-type of game? Fantasy tb strategy with very streamlined, but smooth and tight mechanics focused on cranking out armies, map control and decking out heroes by raiding lairs. I can't recall a single one and find it pretty weird. There's "spiritual follower" to pretty much every niche crap out there now and these games were fairly popular and still have decent communities built around them.
Maybe these? Both great games.



 

Zboj Lamignat

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Thanks! I have Deity Empires in my steam account, but never played it.

The first one does look very interesting, but also very overpriced.
 

Sloul

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Deity Empire AI is broken and cannot use correctly spells for instance, so you might want to play against players.
 

Axioms

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Deity Empire AI is broken and cannot use correctly spells for instance, so you might want to play against players.
You gotta respect DE, though. Ugliest piece of shit in the world but dude sold at least 1000 copies and it has double digit numbers of concurrent players even now.
 

Tanaka

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Thanks! I have Deity Empires in my steam account, but never played it.

The first one does look very interesting, but also very overpriced.
$24 is overpriced? That's about as good as you can get these days. And it's a one time price no dlcs the dev continues to patch and support all three of his games...

Yes you should give DE a chance maybe one of the best dungeon games...
 

Galdred

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Deity Empire AI is broken and cannot use correctly spells for instance, so you might want to play against players.
You gotta respect DE, though. Ugliest piece of shit in the world but dude sold at least 1000 copies and it has double digit numbers of concurrent players even now.
A good part of DE is PvEing quickly enough to murder neutral guardians when it gets to you, though, so I didn't find the broken AI to be such a big issue.
 

Axioms

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Thanks! I have Deity Empires in my steam account, but never played it.

The first one does look very interesting, but also very overpriced.
$24 is overpriced? That's about as good as you can get these days. And it's a one time price no dlcs the dev continues to patch and support all three of his games...

Yes you should give DE a chance maybe one of the best dungeon games...
DE is a mess with a terrible UI but the dev for sure is *trying* to be a good dev and respect his players. Also OP should understand that niche games often have to sell at a higher price because they can't count on casuals and need to get more money from their "advanced/hardcore" users. Otherwise the games simply aren't viable to make.
 

Dr1f7

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ok i tried it here's my 5-minute playtime review:
  • game looks like shit (on ultra)
  • game runs like shit
  • things on map are too hard to read (because the game looks like shit)
  • combat probably sucks but i didn't get to turn 2 to try it out
  • shadow magic better
  • uninstalled
 

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