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It is an absolute mystery to me why Ubishit hasn't nuked and paved their "meta-story" in AC.
It is enough, more than enough, to have an open world RPG loosely based on historical settings. LARPing in Ancient Greece is fun enough, don't risk pissing in the fountain with this meta-garbage.
It is worth noting that only the maximal faggots care about the meta-plot, the Venn-diagram of them and the dangerhair furry faggots who doomed Bioware, probably forms a single perfect circle.
This is vestigial garbage that should have been cut after AC3, when the franchise went through its first soft reboot.
Fucking Farcry doesn't have this albatross around its neck. Imagine how awesome Farcry would be if those games were just a simulation and you would play the "meta-plot" where "protagonist" fights evil corporation before entering a VR simulation, so he could fight ancient beings and (... ugh I just vomited up in my throat there)
When AC went into open world RPG, I hoped that Ubishit would realize how incredibly bizarre and counter-productive the meta-plot was, and how none of their other parallel franchises have this.
It is enough, more than enough, to have an open world RPG loosely based on historical settings. LARPing in Ancient Greece is fun enough, don't risk pissing in the fountain with this meta-garbage.
It is worth noting that only the maximal faggots care about the meta-plot, the Venn-diagram of them and the dangerhair furry faggots who doomed Bioware, probably forms a single perfect circle.
This is vestigial garbage that should have been cut after AC3, when the franchise went through its first soft reboot.
Fucking Farcry doesn't have this albatross around its neck. Imagine how awesome Farcry would be if those games were just a simulation and you would play the "meta-plot" where "protagonist" fights evil corporation before entering a VR simulation, so he could fight ancient beings and (... ugh I just vomited up in my throat there)
When AC went into open world RPG, I hoped that Ubishit would realize how incredibly bizarre and counter-productive the meta-plot was, and how none of their other parallel franchises have this.
True. That said the whole "playing a game within a game" schtick and the way it's tied to "synchronization" is one of the few rare ideas coming from Western devs that is both brilliant and innovative. But yeah, they should've gotten rid of it five games ago.
mkultra
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I disagree, i don't think it's either innovative or brilliant, it only acts as an immersion killer, it's reminding the player that he's not there, the world is "fake". While i obviously don't believe i'm actually in the gameworld when i play games, i do appreciate when there are moments when i immerse myself almost to that degree, when you get into the "zone". Here they've only made sure to break that almost magical feeling. It doesn't add anything apart from annoyance and it was never a good design choice.
RepHope
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You didn’t recognize the “Reader’s” voice? That’s Nolan North. It’s clearly Desmond’s consciousness uploaded to the Isu cloud server somehow after he died. Layla even turns gold as well after she decides to stay in the Gray. So you’ve got Adam (Desmond) and Eve (Layla) looking through the Tree of Knowledge (the simulated timelines of the Gray) to find a way to save the world. It’s so clumsy and corny I almost admire it.
It’s low key fucking hilarious that they completely abandoned the clear original plot of Desmond killing off the modern day Templars, and now Abstergo which was this superpower in the Desmond games basically hasn’t done shit since.
I don't even
Clockwork Knight
Arcane
This will explain everything.
ferratilis
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Lord_Potato
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Good. I was afraid I'll have to play more of these games :D
Wow what a colossally stupid fucking move.
I concur
Child of Malkav
Erudite
So RIP in piss basically?
typical user
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Looks at The Division franchise:
Atchodas
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As i recently played Valhalla i can tell you that Assassins Creed has been dead for a while now
All I wanted was an open world fantasy/historical RPG.
Being a viking in the IX century, going on adventures deep in the Mediterranean.
A Roman legionnaire in the I century, on adventures deep in Germania.
A Sumerian scholar 5000 BC, discovering the secrets of Mesopotamia.
So many, many possibilities and it would be awesome to bring those worlds into existence through computer games.
Instead we have Assassin's Creed Isu garbage and SJW woke shit.
Goddammit.
Being a viking in the IX century, going on adventures deep in the Mediterranean.
A Roman legionnaire in the I century, on adventures deep in Germania.
A Sumerian scholar 5000 BC, discovering the secrets of Mesopotamia.
So many, many possibilities and it would be awesome to bring those worlds into existence through computer games.
Instead we have Assassin's Creed Isu garbage and SJW woke shit.
Goddammit.
Jack Of Owls
Arcane
I lost interest in AC: Valhalla after reaching the first town. Speaks volumes, I think. Did enjoy Origins quite a lot tho. Might play Odyssey some day.
Atchodas
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Not sure about Origins or Odyssey
But Valhalla is rpg parody and its not even funny.
Very often you get presented with choices and next cutscene just undermines your choice instantly. And meanwhile there are choices that have some consequences they are very few and far between and usually consequences are just slightly different dialogue and never have any effect on your gameplay
There are side quests aka World Events but all of them take about 1 minute to complete and you just complete them right where you found the quests.
Progressive writing is literally in every sentence, and even if you ignore this, story and its characters are so bland and boring that you are better off just skipping all dialogues, cutscenes and proceeding to do some fetch type of quests.
There were supposed to be some big reveals at the end of the story but all of them were obvious before that point...
Your brother Butthurd is Tyr, Basim is Loki and Alfred is grandmaster templar knew this all before it happened in the story.
There is a skill tree but you gain so much skill points that eventually you will have everything in the tree, half of that shit you will never use or benefit from. Essentially all builds are the same and just use different weapons for different visual effects.
Most of abilities are either shit or will target random targets instead the one you are aiming/have locked in. I only used valkyrie jump and harpoon throw to close distance to enemies that are trying to avoid certain death by moving away from me and explosive arrow so i dont have to look for those trashy oil jars that apparently can break concrete walls.
Finishers are extra stupid and feel so out of place when there are 8 enemies standing around you doing nothing meanwhile you are strangling some fat motherfucker whose throat you already sliced with your dagger 25 times.
There is unique and hand placed loot but its far and few between millions of chests with crafting materials that you cant even use because you will lack Titanium and you cant buy more than 5 every few hours. Also unless you look up some guides you will be stuck with starter Raven armour set for half of the game not that there is any difference but item progression is trash.
There are bunch of chests hidden in ancient ruins locked behind multiple keys that are hidden in weirdest places that will award you with ONE Ingot, for fuck sake really? Am i supposed to believe that someone went trough all this trouble to lock ONE Nickel Ingot?
All traders across the known world share their inventory because why the fuck not?
Pretty much all non combat activities in this game are mini puzzles they arent hard they arent interesting and they get repetitive after first 10 hours there is like a million of them
There are bunch of these collectibles mysteries artefacts whatever, most of them literally award you with nothing for completing them just there to waste your time.
Castle sieges/raids are trash since you cant enjoy the fight and have to participate in bunch of mini fetch quest type puzzles : escort the ram, destroy turrets, destroy fence, explode the wall, open the barred door and so on... no fuck off let me enjoy slaughtering enemies. And if you dont complete these fetch tasks then enemies keep respawning non stop until you participate in the fetch puzzle.
90% of houses have doors either “barred from other side” or just straight up nailed down with indestructible planks, same goes for windows. You have to explode brick walls or break wooden ones to get in, i guess Saxon villagers just get back home after work in the fields explode the wall to get inside their home, fix it next morning before going to milk cows...
Enemy and Ally AI is pathetic they usually just stand there doing nothing, in general enemies arent programmed to kill you as fast as they can they are programmed to survive as long as possible essentially just wasting your time while posing no threat.
There are few missions where you are supposed to stay stealthy while having an ally follow you ... yeah its bad... very very bad. They either crouch and walk right next to enemy being invisible or they just randomly break stealth and pull everyone around.
Whole stealth system is broken, you get spotted instantly, sometimes trough walls or while you are in the bushes making stealth gameplay a chore and save load fiesta meanwhile getting into combat 1 vs 10 well armed soldiers is like oh so you chose death peasants.
“Confirm Kill” is basically most retarded mechanic you can have in Assassin based game, means you cant just assassinate your target and move on, need to clear all the enemies around it and then inspect the body.
Assassinations/Headshots are not insta kills and there are plenty of enemies who wont die to 3-4 arrow shots between their eyes, or they will survive hidden blade strike to their spine and start attacking you like nothing happened.
Double Assassination is gone and you can only follow up with axe throw but, there are hundreds of enemies that stand in couples and then you can only assassinate one before entering combat
9th century England must be the worst setting for AC game since you know there werent any proper towns with buildings to parkour instead you ride your horse trough empty forests/mountains from one small town/camp/ruin to another.
What a huge waste of time this game was, fuck this shit, seriously Ass Creed is DEAD.
And i actually liked Assassin Creed games in the past. In 2007 when i played first AC i thought damn gaming is gonna be great in the future, then AC2 was even better but started declining slowly towards the end of Ezio trilogy. Black Flag was decent game but mostly because it was open world game about pirates and not because its AC. Then Unity flopped because of its pathetic state on release and these Ubishit faggots thought you know what we gona turn Ass creed into rpg well guess what faggots making RPGs requires talent and brains and just being a faggot is not enough.
But Valhalla is rpg parody and its not even funny.
Very often you get presented with choices and next cutscene just undermines your choice instantly. And meanwhile there are choices that have some consequences they are very few and far between and usually consequences are just slightly different dialogue and never have any effect on your gameplay
There are side quests aka World Events but all of them take about 1 minute to complete and you just complete them right where you found the quests.
Progressive writing is literally in every sentence, and even if you ignore this, story and its characters are so bland and boring that you are better off just skipping all dialogues, cutscenes and proceeding to do some fetch type of quests.
There were supposed to be some big reveals at the end of the story but all of them were obvious before that point...
Your brother Butthurd is Tyr, Basim is Loki and Alfred is grandmaster templar knew this all before it happened in the story.
There is a skill tree but you gain so much skill points that eventually you will have everything in the tree, half of that shit you will never use or benefit from. Essentially all builds are the same and just use different weapons for different visual effects.
Most of abilities are either shit or will target random targets instead the one you are aiming/have locked in. I only used valkyrie jump and harpoon throw to close distance to enemies that are trying to avoid certain death by moving away from me and explosive arrow so i dont have to look for those trashy oil jars that apparently can break concrete walls.
Finishers are extra stupid and feel so out of place when there are 8 enemies standing around you doing nothing meanwhile you are strangling some fat motherfucker whose throat you already sliced with your dagger 25 times.
There is unique and hand placed loot but its far and few between millions of chests with crafting materials that you cant even use because you will lack Titanium and you cant buy more than 5 every few hours. Also unless you look up some guides you will be stuck with starter Raven armour set for half of the game not that there is any difference but item progression is trash.
There are bunch of chests hidden in ancient ruins locked behind multiple keys that are hidden in weirdest places that will award you with ONE Ingot, for fuck sake really? Am i supposed to believe that someone went trough all this trouble to lock ONE Nickel Ingot?
All traders across the known world share their inventory because why the fuck not?
Pretty much all non combat activities in this game are mini puzzles they arent hard they arent interesting and they get repetitive after first 10 hours there is like a million of them
There are bunch of these collectibles mysteries artefacts whatever, most of them literally award you with nothing for completing them just there to waste your time.
Castle sieges/raids are trash since you cant enjoy the fight and have to participate in bunch of mini fetch quest type puzzles : escort the ram, destroy turrets, destroy fence, explode the wall, open the barred door and so on... no fuck off let me enjoy slaughtering enemies. And if you dont complete these fetch tasks then enemies keep respawning non stop until you participate in the fetch puzzle.
90% of houses have doors either “barred from other side” or just straight up nailed down with indestructible planks, same goes for windows. You have to explode brick walls or break wooden ones to get in, i guess Saxon villagers just get back home after work in the fields explode the wall to get inside their home, fix it next morning before going to milk cows...
Enemy and Ally AI is pathetic they usually just stand there doing nothing, in general enemies arent programmed to kill you as fast as they can they are programmed to survive as long as possible essentially just wasting your time while posing no threat.
There are few missions where you are supposed to stay stealthy while having an ally follow you ... yeah its bad... very very bad. They either crouch and walk right next to enemy being invisible or they just randomly break stealth and pull everyone around.
Whole stealth system is broken, you get spotted instantly, sometimes trough walls or while you are in the bushes making stealth gameplay a chore and save load fiesta meanwhile getting into combat 1 vs 10 well armed soldiers is like oh so you chose death peasants.
“Confirm Kill” is basically most retarded mechanic you can have in Assassin based game, means you cant just assassinate your target and move on, need to clear all the enemies around it and then inspect the body.
Assassinations/Headshots are not insta kills and there are plenty of enemies who wont die to 3-4 arrow shots between their eyes, or they will survive hidden blade strike to their spine and start attacking you like nothing happened.
Double Assassination is gone and you can only follow up with axe throw but, there are hundreds of enemies that stand in couples and then you can only assassinate one before entering combat
9th century England must be the worst setting for AC game since you know there werent any proper towns with buildings to parkour instead you ride your horse trough empty forests/mountains from one small town/camp/ruin to another.
What a huge waste of time this game was, fuck this shit, seriously Ass Creed is DEAD.
And i actually liked Assassin Creed games in the past. In 2007 when i played first AC i thought damn gaming is gonna be great in the future, then AC2 was even better but started declining slowly towards the end of Ezio trilogy. Black Flag was decent game but mostly because it was open world game about pirates and not because its AC. Then Unity flopped because of its pathetic state on release and these Ubishit faggots thought you know what we gona turn Ass creed into rpg well guess what faggots making RPGs requires talent and brains and just being a faggot is not enough.
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lycanwarrior
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Valhalla is a saga about progressive vikingr strong woman shieldmaiden eivor the liberator of england from white male misogynists.
And if you didnt get the message ALL woman are stronger than males they are with ALL of them.
Deal with it.
I feel brain tumor developing in my head from playing this game.
I remember a thread on Reddit regarding all the weird-looking children with deformed faces.
One of the funnier comments was that from playing the game, you would think all English children are brown and misshapen lmao.
Although with the demographics trends underway across major cities in the UK, that probably isn't too far off from the truth these days...
lycanwarrior
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Odyssey and Valhalla were basically live service games already.
Ubisoft is just making the transformation complete.
lycanwarrior
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The beginning Norway map didn't grab me. However, enjoying it much more after sailing to England.
rusty_shackleford
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I thought we were already at the point where publishers were aware live services isn't the golden ticket they thought it would be, but I guess not.
Unlike singleplayer games, live services games have to fight for market share. If a normie likes RPGs he won't be picking between skyrim's 27th release or witcher 3, he'll buy both eventually.
When it comes to live services games, players pick one game and stick to it. One or two games tend to completely dominate the specific subgenre market, suffocating the competition. Look at all the failed MOBAs/hero shooters/card battlers/etc., from big name publishers that are now completely forgotten about.
Unlike singleplayer games, live services games have to fight for market share. If a normie likes RPGs he won't be picking between skyrim's 27th release or witcher 3, he'll buy both eventually.
When it comes to live services games, players pick one game and stick to it. One or two games tend to completely dominate the specific subgenre market, suffocating the competition. Look at all the failed MOBAs/hero shooters/card battlers/etc., from big name publishers that are now completely forgotten about.
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