Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

[Roguey]

Also, is it just me or with every showcase it looks more and more like Grounded in terms of art, the color and overall feel. It's like, Grounded become a huge hit at some point during development, so they're gonna make everything look similar? WTF.

It's how Deadfire would look if the camera was much closer https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...ting-coming-february-18th.134122/post-9022869

 

[Quillon]

Also, is it just me or with every showcase it looks more and more like Grounded in terms of art, the color and overall feel. It's like, Grounded become a huge hit at some point during development, so they're gonna make everything look similar? WTF.

It's how Deadfire would look if the camera was much closer https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...ting-coming-february-18th.134122/post-9022869

It still feels way different; they probably made some stuff bigger etc for them to stand out in ISO view which apparently doesn't translate well when transitioned to first person view 1 on 1 scale. It looks like they only touched aumauas(made them way smaller race) in terms of proportions with the perspective change.

 

[Ryzer]

Roguey, do you know the budget for this game? Genuinely curious about how much Microsoft poured into this.

 

[Roguey]

Roguey, do you know the budget for this game? Genuinely curious about how much Microsoft poured into this.

They're calling it an AA game but it has a core team of 100 and total development would be a little over 6 years. I'd say upwards of 60 million, twice as much as The Outer Worlds (which had a core team of 80 working for 3 years).

 

[luj1]

If one guy with a passion can produce Underrail then the budget doesn't matter really. You see all these million dollar budgets and big teams produce trash.

 

[Readher]

If one guy with a passion can produce Underrail then the budget doesn't matter really. You see all these million dollar budgets and big teams produce trash.

They keep throwing more people at the problem instead of hiring a few competent engineers and giving them good working conditions. 100 pajeets or DEI hires are still worse than 2 coding wizards who are currently working some comfy job in another industry where they get paid their worth and aren't crunched 24/7.

 

[luj1]

They keep throwing more people at the problem

Them allowing 1000 voices is also a problem

 

[Beans00]

Obsidians biggest problem: They have zero talent.

 

[Old Hans]

why do game developers INSIST on trying to re-invent the wheel when it comes to wizard robes and fantasy clothes. It always ends up looking like a star trek outfit

Dragon's Dogma (Codex GotY 2016) managed quality reinventions of wizardly robes:

dragons dogma has really good designs. I give them the official OLD HANS seal of approval

 

[TC Jr]

The HUD leaves me speechless. I'm alternating between laughter and honest disbelief.

I mean... look at this shit. There's barely any empty space left. What the fuck are all those arrows? Who needs so many arrows?! WHY WOULD YOU KEEP YOUR QUEST OBJECTIVES ON THE LEFT WHEN THERE'S ALREADY ALL THIS SHIT CLUTTERING THE SCREEN???!!!! I don't know why this is bothering me so much...

I was one of those dumbfucks who thought "Microsoft bought them? Fuck, here comes some awesome games", when in reality; MS: shit out a game for gamepass. Obsidian: HOW HIGH SIR?
Sawyer, reading between the lines said as much in an interview when discussing Pentiment This isn't a game Obsidian should release but then MS bought us, so it made sense - something to that affect.
I'm obviously paraphrasing but that's what I got from that interview.
They're fucked, make shite for gamepass. Best reviews will be "Meh, good for what it is", which means it's utter shite and faggots that pay for gamepass have to justify it somehow.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

That makes no sense though does it. MS didn't spend a 100 billion (yes, billion with a B) buying videogame developers because they wanted to produce cheap AA shovelware for Gamepass.

 

[TwoEdge]

That makes no sense though does it. MS didn't spend a 100 billion (yes, billion with a B) buying videogame developers because they wanted to produce cheap AA shovelware for Gamepass.

Well, 69 of those billions were Activision alone, Zenimax was 7.5. So I think the theory has merit, some studios were bought for value, most for filler.

 

[Tihskael]

Roguey, do you know the budget for this game? Genuinely curious about how much Microsoft poured into this.

They're calling it an AA game but it has a core team of 100 and total development would be a little over 6 years. I'd say upwards of 60 million, twice as much as The Outer Worlds (which had a core team of 80 working for 3 years).

Adjusted for inflation?

 

[ColonelMace]

Obsidian's swansong right here.

 

[Roguey]

With a 60 million budget plus lets say another 60 million for marketing, they'd need roughly 3 million full price sales to break even, 4-5 to be successful. 30 million people bought Skyrim. It's within the possibility to capture 15% of that audience right away.

 

[LizardWizard]

60 million for marketing,

What marketing? Outerworlds had TV commercials during prime time. Avowed had a couple low quality gameplay trailers that everyone shit on. Not like they're breaking the bank sending Dollarhyde to Germany to gvie a basic presentation.

 

[Butter]

With a 60 million budget plus lets say another 60 million for marketing, they'd need roughly 3 million full price sales to break even, 4-5 to be successful. 30 million people bought Skyrim. It's within the possibility to capture 15% of that audience right away.

I'm cynical enough to not be surprised by anything, but realistically they have to show something impressive or interesting. Their gameplay demo was "here's stuff you've seen in action RPGs 100 times before". Merely filling a gap in the market with unambitious and unremarkable slop content isn't good enough.

 

[ArchAngel]

With a 60 million budget plus lets say another 60 million for marketing, they'd need roughly 3 million full price sales to break even, 4-5 to be successful. 30 million people bought Skyrim. It's within the possibility to capture 15% of that audience right away.

A big chuck of players are going to be gamepass players as well.

 

[Roguey]

60 million for marketing,

What marketing? Outerworlds had TV commercials during prime time. Avowed had a couple low quality gameplay trailers that everyone shit on. Not like they're breaking the bank sending Dollarhyde to Germany to gvie a basic presentation.

It's out in February, it's way too early for the blitz.

I'm cynical enough to not be surprised by anything, but realistically they have to show something impressive or interesting. Their gameplay demo was "here's stuff you've seen in action RPGs 100 times before". Merely filling a gap in the market with unambitious and unremarkable slop content isn't good enough.

I do not believe masses of people are that discerning. If that were the case, hardly anything released in past few years would be successful.

Additionally, there legitimately hasn't been a big first person fantasy RPG released since Skyrim in 2011 (Kingdom Come and its sequel are popular but not fantasy). It seems likely to me that a lot of people would be happy with a similar-but-different game to play.

 

[Dr1f7]

The HUD leaves me speechless. I'm alternating between laughter and honest disbelief.

I mean... look at this shit. There's barely any empty space left. What the fuck are all those arrows? Who needs so many arrows?! WHY WOULD YOU KEEP YOUR QUEST OBJECTIVES ON THE LEFT WHEN THERE'S ALREADY ALL THIS SHIT CLUTTERING THE SCREEN???!!!! I don't know why this is bothering me so much...

they have the right idea but is still too hard to see some critical things i quickly fixed the issue @obsidian please hire me ill fix ur game

 

[Pink Eye]

Half an hour of Avowed:

Holy shit, holy shit, what is that combat bro. People waited YEARS for that?! Did a fucking paraplegic midget develop that shit? All that talk about it being inspired by Vermintide and it's the most unimpactful, timid, softiest, combat I've ever seen.

 

[Roguey]

The only thing objectionable about the HUD are the arrows and the perma-questlog and if Obsidian's last UE game is anything to go by, you'll be able to disable everything.

 

[Elttharion]

With a 60 million budget plus lets say another 60 million for marketing, they'd need roughly 3 million full price sales to break even, 4-5 to be successful. 30 million people bought Skyrim. It's within the possibility to capture 15% of that audience right away.

5 million copies for a game skipping PS5 and NSwitch and releasing day one on gamepass. That will be tough.

 

[HoboForEternity]

The only thing objectionable about the HUD are the arrows and the perma-questlog and if Obsidian's last UE game is anything to go by, you'll be able to disable everything.

The UI bloat is one thing but the overall UI design themselves are trash, it is the usual modern mobile/fortnite UI type down to the menus.

Mind that i am not overwhelmingly negative about this game unlike most other edgy codexers. Combat looks decent and i enjou eora as a setting and loved deadfire, but the UI is trash period

 

[Drakortha]

Is there 3rd person combat?