Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming February 18th

[mediocrepoet]

Just saw a bit of the newer videos for this thing. They should've waited before, this looks leagues ahead of that first set of videos and actually looks like it could be fun. That first set of gameplay videos from months ago looked like complete ass.

Any links at hand?

I think it was posted in this thread already, but I was just watching Force Gaming's blab about it and just watching the gameplay part of it. Really looks like the sort of thing DMoMM hoped to be before it turned into The Kickman Saga.

 

[kapisi]

I wish they stuck with Outer Worlds graphics. This engine switch doesn't bring anything worth losing performance over. I'm tired of new games running like shit, good enough graphics is good enough.

 

[Infinitron]

Just saw a bit of the newer videos for this thing. They should've waited before, this looks leagues ahead of that first set of videos and actually looks like it could be fun. That first set of gameplay videos from months ago looked like complete ass.

Any links at hand?

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/avowed-final-previews.151906/

I wish they stuck with Outer Worlds graphics. This engine switch doesn't bring anything worth losing performance over. I'm tired of new games running like shit, good enough graphics is good enough.

They're both Unreal Engine games.

 

[Cohesion]

The people that can develop engines aren't working at game companies, there isn't money in it for them.

Why would skilled programmers work in game dev, crunch near deadline and risk to be fired when the game flops if they can earn more $ in IT, fintech or military and enjoy benefits/social security instead of risks?

 

[kapisi]

They're both Unreal Engine games.

Yeah, Avowed is UE5 which is either much more demanding or more difficult to optimize. And the visuals are not even that much better?

I mean, 30 fps on Xbox, I know it's a console, but.

 

[processdaemon]

Here's an article discussing the third person perspective, not super positive but seems to say it's about as good as or better than the third person in Bethesda games, which is fine by me since I've preferred to play all their games in third person despite the issues so I'll probably be able to stomach whatever problems Avowed's version has.

This article also confirms that there's third person perspective in combat and not just exploring, which I assumed was the case but I remember someone questioning it.

 

[Cohesion]

Roguey and Infinitron are in full shilling mode. They are either coping hard or are a true obsidian fangirls.

 

[chupachups]

Roguey and Infinitron are in full shilling mode. They are either coping hard or are a true obsidian fangirls.

Irespective of others bias, what's wrong with the game from your perspective?

 

[Cohesion]

Roguey and Infinitron are in full shilling mode. They are either coping hard or are a true obsidian fangirls.

Irespective of others bias, what's wrong with the game from your perspective?

It's basically fantasy outer worlds.
There isn't enough A for action or R for RPG.
Press X to win!

 

[chupachups]

It's basically fantasy outer worlds.
There isn't enough A for action nor R for RPG.
Press X to win!

Yeah well, that's one way of seeing it. I don't quite agree. Have you seen (some) of the previews that Infinitron linked a bit earlier? Of course I am not trying to convince you of anything but maybe give them a shot?

 

[Tyranicon]

I like Obsidian and I want them to do well.

But here are two key pieces of evidence that this game will be cringe:

We're not the target audience anymore and that's okay. Let's see if the modern audience, or at least those that survived Veilguard, will be good to this one.

 

[chupachups]

We're not the target audience anymore and that's okay. Let's see if the modern audience, or at least those that survived Veilguard, will be good to this one.

Agree, wondering if we will ever see future products cater to the "classic" audience?

 

[Cohesion]

Even a lot of the better developers in the industry are cowards who perpetuate it instead of putting their foot down.

= being fired first.

 

[Cohesion]

Berto Ritger is Avowed Region director, employed as an area designer in April 2022, promoted to senior in April 2024, probably promoted to director recently.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertoritger

2 years from junior to director - nepotism pipeline.

 

[processdaemon]

I like Obsidian and I want them to do well.

But here are two key pieces of evidence that this game will be cringe:

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We're not the target audience anymore and that's okay. Let's see if the modern audience, or at least those that survived Veilguard, will be good to this one.

I agree that stuff like that is embarrassing, but my hope is that they're pushing scenes like that in the press to try and soften any backlash over their lack of romances from the waifu/ husbando crowd. I'm possibly being a tad optimistic, but the fact that they've refused to rush in some perfunctory romances despite the rabid response to the romances in BG3 makes me more hopeful than I'd otherwise be.

 

[kapisi]

I like Obsidian and I want them to do well.

But here are two key pieces of evidence that this game will be cringe:

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We're not the target audience anymore and that's okay. Let's see if the modern audience, or at least those that survived Veilguard, will be good to this one.

I'll take Yatzli over prestigious Durance any day, thank you. I would have despaired if there were romances, but there aren't! Suck it ladies, there are no romances!

Edit - btw, that cringe "sexy bird" attitude is probably why Brandon Keener (Garrus VA) never engaged with the community, despite being a fan favorite. Wise man. Yet they continue to perpetuate this diarrhea.

 

[Butter]

We're not the target audience anymore and that's okay. Let's see if the modern audience, or at least those that survived Veilguard, will be good to this one.

Agree, wondering if we will ever see future products cater to the "classic" audience?

Yes, they're called indie games and they're made by autistic shut-ins who haven't played a new game since 2001 (they didn't care for it).

 

[Vox Machina]

Damn, game looks so much better than the initial showing. The first-person combat is looking great too. Looking forward to diving into this!

 

[Old Hans]

An additional reason why games run worse now is DX12

I've noticed over the years, that the even numbered DirectXs are the worst ones. The odd numbered are the good ones

 

[mediocrepoet]

An additional reason why games run worse now is DX12

I've noticed over the years, that the even numbered DirectXs are the worst ones. The odd numbered are the good ones

Follows the Windows pattern, eh?

 

[Azdul]

The people that can develop engines aren't working at game companies, there isn't money in it for them.

Why would skilled programmers work in game dev, crunch near deadline and risk to be fired when the game flops if they can earn more $ in IT, fintech or military and enjoy benefits/social security instead of risks?

John Carmack code is pretty clever and well written and he had huge impact on development of 3d graphics. Judging from his 'manifesto' concerning Facebook 3d headsets development, he had not found working there all that fulfilling.

Of course I'm not suggesting that he should apply for a job at Obsidian.

 

[Cohesion]

The people that can develop engines aren't working at game companies, there isn't money in it for them.

Why would skilled programmers work in game dev, crunch near deadline and risk to be fired when the game flops if they can earn more $ in IT, fintech or military and enjoy benefits/social security instead of risks?

John Carmack code is pretty clever and well written and he had huge impact on development of 3d graphics. Judging from his 'manifesto' concerning Facebook 3d headsets development, he had not found working there all that fulfilling.

Of course I'm not suggesting that he should apply for a job at Obsidian.

That was 30 years (a generation) ago, he was a young nerd working with other nerds.

 

[Roguey]

Roguey and Infinitron are in full shilling mode. They are either coping hard or are a true obsidian fangirls.

What am I shilling for exactly? I'm expecting another solid Safesidian mediocrity.

 

[Starner]

The people that can develop engines aren't working at game companies, there isn't money in it for them.

Why would skilled programmers work in game dev, crunch near deadline and risk to be fired when the game flops if they can earn more $ in IT, fintech or military and enjoy benefits/social security instead of risks?

I don't think they should work in game development at all. It's better for skilled programmers to make their money in a tech field, and then create the games they want to independently as a side hobby or in retirement.

 

[Azdul]

The people that can develop engines aren't working at game companies, there isn't money in it for them.

Why would skilled programmers work in game dev, crunch near deadline and risk to be fired when the game flops if they can earn more $ in IT, fintech or military and enjoy benefits/social security instead of risks?

I don't think they should work in game development at all. It's better for skilled programmers to make their money in a tech field, and then create the games they want to independently as a side hobby or in retirement.

The problem with this approach is that it takes 5 years to release ultimate 8-bit game, and a decade for 16-bit dream game.

I would say that projects like porting M&M III to ScummVM or Dune 2 to AGA or open source reimplementation of Gothic 2 can be realistically done in a free time. But Avowed will be better than any ambitious, truly original hobbyist project by the virtue of being actually finished released.