Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting - coming November 12th(?)

[whydoibother]

Translation: He likes video games and has enthusiasm to play video games.

I kind of like MrMatty but he undeniably has a habit of pumping up things that are obviously going to suck, and then having to backpedal like a loon post-release. He has the decency to laugh at himself for the infamous "near perfect game" fiasco re: Fallout 4, but he somehow keeps replicating mini versions of the same fuckup.

Relentless positivity can be a good thing but he takes it a bit far. This might not be the case re: Avowed because I haven't watched his vids on it, but I've followed him now and then since the run-up to Fo4's release and he does have a tendency to be gung-ho for things in a way that feels artificial rather than truly-felt, even as his own audience scream at him to face reality.

I appreciate his enthusiasm because people are relentlessly negative nowadays in a way that's profoundly tedious, but I also don't believe his enthusiasm is genuine 80% of the time at this point. It's just become his brand identity to be constantly buzzing about everything, which ends up being just as annoying and insincere as the countless arseholes who have channels dedicated to whinging and ripping on every new game that comes out.

I don't care about that guy in particular, I am just counter-signaling the trendy negativity. Dropping a channel you like, because the host is excited about an upcoming release, is just retarded.

 

[0sacred]

A lot of you need to go back to Reddit.

 

[Lemming42]

I don't care about that guy in particular, I am just counter-signaling the trendy negativity. Dropping a channel you like, because the host is excited about an upcoming release, is just retarded.

Yeah I'd definitely agree with your wider point about edgy performative negativity towards all new games being tedious as fuck. It's just that in this specific case, MrMatty probably is one of the few people who could reasonably be accused of managing to go too far in the opposite direction.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Is the recording available for the first stream?

 

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Is the recording available for the first stream?

 

[AwesomeButton]

I can't stand this guy.

He is the kind of person who deliberately looks for chances to use made-up forms of obscure terms. "All the onomatopoeias were unsatisfying."

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I can't stand this guy.

He is the kind of person who deliberately looks for chances to use made-up forms of obscure terms. "All the onomatopoeias were unsatisfying."

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[Butter]

Translation: He likes video games and has enthusiasm to play video games.

I kind of like MrMatty but he undeniably has a habit of pumping up things that are obviously going to suck, and then having to backpedal like a loon post-release. He has the decency to laugh at himself for the infamous "near perfect game" fiasco re: Fallout 4, but he somehow keeps replicating mini versions of the same fuckup.

Relentless positivity can be a good thing but he takes it a bit far. This might not be the case re: Avowed because I haven't watched his vids on it, but I've followed him now and then since the run-up to Fo4's release and he does have a tendency to be gung-ho for things in a way that feels artificial rather than truly-felt, even as his own audience scream at him to face reality.

I appreciate his enthusiasm because people are relentlessly negative nowadays in a way that's profoundly tedious, but I also don't believe his enthusiasm is genuine 80% of the time at this point. It's just become his brand identity to be constantly buzzing about everything, which ends up being just as annoying and insincere as the countless arseholes who have channels dedicated to whinging and ripping on every new game that comes out.

He probably looked at the metrics and realized it pays to be relentlessly positive. Most of the people watching his Avowed video are going to be people excited about the game, and they want to see their excitement reflected back at them. Most of the people who watch his inevitable Veilguard videos are going to be people excited about Veilguard, and so on. Subscribers who aren't interested in those games will probably just skip the video.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Watching the footage, I'm impressed by how well Obsidian's artists have imitated the style of BG3's icons on their abilities.

 

[Tyranicon]

Modern YouTubers make money by spreading and taking advantage of brainrot. Especially vidyatubers, they're 99% grifters.

 

[BrainMuncher]

I don't trust anyone that has a cartoon avatar of themself

 

[Yosharian]

People should be paid more though. It's disgusting how much execs get paid (whether it's bonuses or just salary) compared to grunts

Execs that, let's not forget, are usually responsible for ruining the fucking games they're in charge of

Grunts at the end of the day are still grunts. I like to say that Steve jobs never designed the hardware of the iphone, never wrote the code of the iphone OS, never even took charge of the iphone marketing. But if he never was Apple CEO there's no chance the iphone would have been made.

The idea on paper should be that the execs should be the elite of the elite, the smartest people in the room. That grunts should just do whatever the elites tell them to do cause the elites know their stuff. And the smartest people should be compensated for their talent cause they are simply worth 100X more than the grunts. The problem comes when the execs are a bunch of frauds and they don't know what the fuck they are doing. In this case it still doesn't matter how competent and great the grunts are, they will still be pulled down by their bosses.

I agree broadly with what you're saying but there are limits, and if you don't pay your grunts well then they will do shit work which makes it game shit

 

[RapineDel]

Over time, he sold out more and more and I can't even stand his retro gaming shit anymore.

Translation: He likes video games and has enthusiasm to play video games.

I think this is probably more on point:

Link to a guy who hates vidoe games and hopes video games will be bad, so he can performatively hate them on video for monkeys to watch.


Please don't be like that.

I'd love for Avowed to be a good game but there's a number of clear red flags such as:

- The game has basically gone through development hell, 6+ years with multiple leads and a lack of direction on what the game is (originally Obsidian's Skyrim, a co-op game etc.)

- Almost everything they are trying to show off is combat related. It suggests this game is going to be more of a dungeon crawler experience with some quests scattered throughout. This could be fine if they actually nail the combat but game play footage has been middling and this aspect is usually a weakness in Obsidian games.

- Overall, the marketing has been very underwhelming and most of the enthusiasm for the game seems to come from a) general Obsidian fan's who trust the company and assume they won't be let down along with b) Xbox fans who suddenly care about this studio because it has the Microsoft seal of approval. Very little of the excitement seems to actually point to the footage we've been shown.

What a lot of people are expecting though, is basically The Outer Worlds: Fantasy Edition. I honestly don't think that's what we'll get and people are expecting way too much if they think that's what it's going to be. This is NOT going to be a game with a number of towns, settlements and large numbers of NPCs to talk with. If this was part of the game, they'd be showing it off, they aren't hiding the good bits and showing us the crap.

I'd be expecting something that is a noticeable step down from the Outer Worlds in terms of story/quest content with most of the game focused on combat / builds etc. This will no doubt disappoint a lot of even the casual audience so I'm curious to see if this turns out to be the case or if it's just been poorly marketed (unlikely but it's possible as it has happened with games like Prey 2017).

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Translation: He likes video games and has enthusiasm to play video games.

More like he pushes shit so we end up getting more shit. The only reason I think he has a retro gaming channel is because it's trendy.

I appreciate his enthusiasm because people are relentlessly negative nowadays in a way that's profoundly tedious, but I also don't believe his enthusiasm is genuine 80% of the time at this point.

He's one of the reasons why people are so negative these days. Of the two videos I've posted, the second guy is more correct than "This game looks AMAZING!" He's right about them walking back things with Avowed since the announcement and most of what comes out of Obsidian about Avowed tends to be "Lower your expectations." Some of this could stem from The Outer Worlds where the expectations got sky high after Bethesda shot themselves in the foot with Fallout 76 and what was delivered was just an average game, but there hasn't been a whole lot of "Look at this awesome thing about Avowed" coming from Obsidian. There's nothing really to base the opinion of "This game looks AMAZING!" from MrMatty. Not "This game looks fun" or "This game could be really good!", it's "This looks AMAZING!"

He probably looked at the metrics and realized it pays to be relentlessly positive.

I think it has more to do with things like this:



400k views in 10 days. Not to mention studios like Bethesda have been known to fly channel operators that consistently shill their tripe all over the world and give them free shit.

 

[Roguey]

- Almost everything they are trying to show off is combat related. It suggests this game is going to be more of a dungeon crawler experience with some quests scattered throughout. This could be fine if they actually nail the combat but game play footage has been middling and this aspect is usually a weakness in Obsidian games.

Their last video showed stealth and dialogue. Combat is always what's demonstrated most because most people don't want to watch a bunch of talking.

 

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[Alienman]

What is this? Someone at Obsidian not being dead inside!

 

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