Baldur's Gate #BaldurGate: Siege of Dragonspear

[Stainless Veteran]

The choice of these "WOAH DUUUDE MAN WEED YO" dialogue options, coupled with the whole dialogue are insulting...

Some quality work there.

_O:

That right there is some companion mod level dialog. Wait.. didn't they hire a bunch of modders to work on this game...

Also how long before aVENGER checks out of the codex forever...

Iunno, I replayed BG1 with most modders' companions included, and not all of them are as bad, and most were written before dank memes became a thing. Yeah, many are badly written (especially romanceble companions), but at least there were no WHOA MAN MY HANDS ARE, LIKE, HUGE shit.

This is not a companion, just a random NPCs in a Inn

I understood that, it's just most fan additions to BG1's writing were companions. Everybody and their mother wanted to make their own companions, preferably romanceable, some gay, don't remember any trannies tho'. Most gay ones were written by females, and it was fucking slash central, lol. Anyway, so most examples of fan writing comes from their dialogues, and that's why I referenced 'em.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

The issue is not the fags or the trannys it is all about execution.

DO not fucking text dump your "oh so progressive" diatribe at people. Make it organic and smart. Try and give people dept and something interesting to say that is not "Hello i am so incredibly gay and that is all i am they call me Gay man Bob because i am gay".
Now i do feel for Beamdog, but you shoot yourself in the foot with this one.

 

[Jaklon]

The issue is not the fags or the trannys it is all about execution.

Speak for yourself. Any game maker that wants to soapbox to me can go fuck themselves. People turn to games as an escape from all the bullshit of modern society not to pay to be propagandized, whether subtly or not. Sexual orientation bullshit has no bearing on fucking video games....

 

[ArchAngel]

WTF? I just went back to my current Dwarf Fighter (Legacy of Bhaal difficulty) game and it's changed the difficulty to Story Mode!

Apparently reloading reduces the difficulty level sometimes, so you have to check after reloads

It does not help him, you can set LofB difficulty only at game start.

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

WTF? I just went back to my current Dwarf Fighter (Legacy of Bhaal difficulty) game and it's changed the difficulty to Story Mode!

Apparently reloading reduces the difficulty level sometimes, so you have to check after reloads

It does not help him, you can set LofB difficulty only at game start.

Yes, I just got the impression that it happened randomly on reloading, so you could try reloading that save again, perhaps that was wrong info though

 

[Jick Magger]

Carl's still mad at us.





What's the deal with this Lords of Xulima modder? I stay away from blobber threads.

Found Darkest Dungeon thread, good god. 30 pages and he's on all of them.

What thread?

I dunno where most of it went (the one in the CRPG main page has cut out at least half of his ranting), but the guy is seriously fucking deranged. He was religiously devoted to playing Darkest Dungeon and when the makers of the game blew him off when he tried to give some gameplay advice, he went fucking crazy and spent nearly every single day for months going to almost every single moderately populated forum (from the steam community page to the fucking YouTube comments sections of videos hightlighting the game) that discussed Darkest Dungeon to give long, Elliot Rogers-esque rants about how the game is shit from a gameplay level and how the creators are worse than Hitler. As far as I can tell, we were just the latest in one of his many visits.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Yeah but you could totally do a Heidi Cruz vs Melania Trump thing with their photos.

But that would be sexist, so I would never do that...

Talking about photos, I think Amber Scott with the Robin Hood hat deserves a place in our library of developer smilies.

Since I got on the Codex, I've learned that actually the less I know about the developers of a game, the more probable it is that I classify it as at least an ok game. The hat, and Scott as a whole, just confirmed this belief.

 

[Volrath]

I dunno where most of it went (the one in the CRPG main page has cut out at least half of his ranting), but the guy is seriously fucking deranged. He was religiously devoted to playing Darkest Dungeon and when the makers of the game blew him off when he tried to give some gameplay advice, he went fucking crazy and spent nearly every single day for months going to almost every single moderately populated forum (from the steam community page to the fucking YouTube comments sections of videos hightlighting the game) that discussed Darkest Dungeon to give long, Elliot Rogers-esque rants about how the game is shit from a gameplay level and how the creators are worse than Hitler. As far as I can tell, we were just the latest in one of his many visits.

Sounds like Sensuki.

 

[Infinitron]

I dunno where most of it went (the one in the CRPG main page has cut out at least half of his ranting)

Thread was split into pre-release and post-release. Here's the part you're missing: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...pre-release-thread.88078/page-53#post-4255213

Sounds like Sensuki.

Sensuki on crack, maybe.

 

[Doktor Best]

And ofcourse the shitstorm has gotten outta hand. Why do these discussions always have to be highjacked by retards on both sides of this cancerous GG shit? How will i ever know if SOD is worth my while as a Baldurs Gate fan if every single fucking user reviewer is either 10/10ing because they love trannies and want to "countervote" the white male supremacy or they bash the game solely on one shittily written npc because they hate SJW?

Where is the fucking integrity of those people? And when will we actually be talking about the game, you know... the gameplay and stuff?

Can't the mods just split the thread or something into tranny discussion/game discussion?

 

[Infinitron]

Can't the mods just split the thread or something into tranny discussion/game discussion?

I've considered it, but there's not actually very many people playing the game so not sure it would help that much. It might be best to just wait for this crap to burn out. Hopefully it won't take too long for Delterius to do his review.

 

[Tacgnol]

And ofcourse the shitstorm has gotten outta hand. Why do these discussions always have to be highjacked by retards on both sides of this cancerous GG shit? How will i ever know if SOD is worth my while as a Baldurs Gate fan if every single fucking user reviewer is either 10/10ing because they love trannies and want to "countervote" the white male supremacy or they bash the game solely on one shittily written npc because they hate SJW?

Where is the fucking integrity of those people? And when will we actually be talking about the game, you know... the gameplay and stuff?

Can't the mods just split the thread or something into tranny discussion/game discussion?

Plenty of the negative reviews are criticising the game for more than just bad writing (more than just one NPC btw).

For one thing, the game is currently littered with technical issues and bugs.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Talking about photos, I think Amber Scott with the Robin Hood hat deserves a place in our library of developer smilies.

:goodwriting: ?

And empty for other possible edits:

Oh and, apparently she's a full LGBTBBQ supporter, she even sported the correct haircut at some point:

And still there are people who don't appreciate all this effort.

 

[varangos]

And ofcourse the shitstorm has gotten outta hand. Why do these discussions always have to be highjacked by retards on both sides of this cancerous GG shit? How will i ever know if SOD is worth my while as a Baldurs Gate fan if every single fucking user reviewer is either 10/10ing because they love trannies and want to "countervote" the white male supremacy or they bash the game solely on one shittily written npc because they hate SJW?

Where is the fucking integrity of those people? And when will we actually be talking about the game, you know... the gameplay and stuff?

Can't the mods just split the thread or something into tranny discussion/game discussion?

i would brofist you if i could.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

If you dont like my hat thats too bad.
If we dont sell any games thats too bad.

What makes these dimwits qualified to do anything else than vegetate in a remote corner of the world.

 

[TigerKnee]

Darkest Dungeon mod man trying to pull a Judas is the most fucking hilarious part to me

 

[Scroo]

I really enjoy this shitstorm. They deserve it for creating BG:SJW edition

And I don't even like Baldur's Gate lol

 

[Lyric Suite]

And ofcourse the shitstorm has gotten outta hand. Why do these discussions always have to be highjacked by retards on both sides of this cancerous GG shit?

Muh both sides lol.

The only cancerous shit here is this social justice bullshit, which nobody wants. The only reason this hack was hired to write for this game was SJW politics working to promote the "right" people (people with the "right" opinions and the "right" identity) behind the scenes. SJWs have gone so far with their antics that "neutrality" isn't possible anymore. If this game had come out before GG and Anita Sarkeesian this crap would have just been dismissed as bad writing by anyone except those of us who are actually on the right. But now this stuff can only incense things further. The blow back is real, and there's nothing anyone can do to stop it, and this shit is only bound to spiral ever more out of control because SJWs will always double down.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

I dunno where most of it went (the one in the CRPG main page has cut out at least half of his ranting), but the guy is seriously fucking deranged. He was religiously devoted to playing Darkest Dungeon and when the makers of the game blew him off when he tried to give some gameplay advice, he went fucking crazy and spent nearly every single day for months going to almost every single moderately populated forum (from the steam community page to the fucking YouTube comments sections of videos hightlighting the game) that discussed Darkest Dungeon to give long, Elliot Rogers-esque rants about how the game is shit from a gameplay level and how the creators are worse than Hitler. As far as I can tell, we were just the latest in one of his many visits.

Sounds like Sensuki.

Sensuki's suggestions and analysis were actually helpful though. Also he isn't a 14 year old boy with "LOLOLOL I TROLL YOU :sobbing into the display:", obsessed with wanking, proudly declaring that he watches porn and e-stalking and shitting on Obsidian on every forum, social media and any other Internet outlet available.

 

[Volrath]

I dunno where most of it went (the one in the CRPG main page has cut out at least half of his ranting), but the guy is seriously fucking deranged. He was religiously devoted to playing Darkest Dungeon and when the makers of the game blew him off when he tried to give some gameplay advice, he went fucking crazy and spent nearly every single day for months going to almost every single moderately populated forum (from the steam community page to the fucking YouTube comments sections of videos hightlighting the game) that discussed Darkest Dungeon to give long, Elliot Rogers-esque rants about how the game is shit from a gameplay level and how the creators are worse than Hitler. As far as I can tell, we were just the latest in one of his many visits.

Sounds like Sensuki.

Sensuki's suggestions and analysis were actually helpful though. Also he isn't a 14 year old boy with "LOLOLOL I TROLL YOU :sobbing into the display:", obsessed with wanking, proudly declaring that he watches porn and e-stalking and shitting on Obsidian on every forum, social media and any other Internet outlet available.

I was joking. Kind of.

 

[ArchAngel]

And ofcourse the shitstorm has gotten outta hand. Why do these discussions always have to be highjacked by retards on both sides of this cancerous GG shit? How will i ever know if SOD is worth my while as a Baldurs Gate fan if every single fucking user reviewer is either 10/10ing because they love trannies and want to "countervote" the white male supremacy or they bash the game solely on one shittily written npc because they hate SJW?

Where is the fucking integrity of those people? And when will we actually be talking about the game, you know... the gameplay and stuff?

Can't the mods just split the thread or something into tranny discussion/game discussion?

Here you go, my impressions after a few hours:

Writing is a step up from Beamdog added content for BG1EE and BG2EE. There is very little of this SJW thing people are upset about and the game definitely feels like a BG game. It could be most easily be compared to ToB as it is more railroaded like ToB.

Here and there you can run into conversations that are a bit too modern but it is not a big deal (I only seen one serious conversation that is a bit too modern and you have to be a half-orc main character to get it).

Combat is lots of fun if you enjoy BG1/Bg2 combat (set it on Insane difficulty but turn off Insane difficulty bonus damage as it plays like Core rules but encounters are bigger and enemy AI is better). There are new item stats (like +1 caster level) and items overall are cool.

I am only 5 or so hours into the game so maybe there is something really terrible waiting for me ahead but based on what I seen, I doubt it.

Negative:
- I got stuck early because a mass of NPCs blocked only passage. I had to kill them all with console commands so I don't lose reputation.
- beast enemies on open maps respawn way too often, more often than they did in base game.

Also a very slight spoiler from after prologue:

Spoiler

I had first wtf moment in all the BG games. I returned to Fist military camp only to have one NPC there scream at me "You lied to me!" and proceed to attack me and everyone else :D
I guess I will need to pay more attention on my 2nd play through what exactly did I lie about
Or you could call it my own "It was only Tuesday for me" moment

 

[GrainWetski]

Disclaimer: ArchAngel worked on the game.

 

[ArchAngel]

Disclaimer: ArchAngel worked on the game.

Lol. Not. I just love BG series a lot.

 

[Stainless Veteran]

I dunno where most of it went (the one in the CRPG main page has cut out at least half of his ranting), but the guy is seriously fucking deranged. He was religiously devoted to playing Darkest Dungeon and when the makers of the game blew him off when he tried to give some gameplay advice, he went fucking crazy and spent nearly every single day for months going to almost every single moderately populated forum (from the steam community page to the fucking YouTube comments sections of videos hightlighting the game) that discussed Darkest Dungeon to give long, Elliot Rogers-esque rants about how the game is shit from a gameplay level and how the creators are worse than Hitler. As far as I can tell, we were just the latest in one of his many visits.

Sounds like Sensuki.

Sensuki's suggestions and analysis were actually helpful though. Also he isn't a 14 year old boy with "LOLOLOL I TROLL YOU :sobbing into the display:", obsessed with wanking, proudly declaring that he watches porn and e-stalking and shitting on Obsidian on every forum, social media and any other Internet outlet available.

I was joking. Kind of.

Yeah, well, I've read the whole of Darkest Dungeon thread, and this little shite isn't even entertaining, it's like this on repeat:

Spoiler

 

[Unkillable Cat]

This is from some way back in the thread, but it struck me as odd:

When you insert your real world politics or easter eggs in a scifi or fantasy game you're just shooting yourself in the leg. Because when the player encounters these things he's immediately pulled out of the game world to this one. And he realizes that it's not the character that is speaking to him, it's the writer, usually a moronically shitty one too. And he/she wants to have a word with you. Stop playing and listen.

I fucking hated Gordon of Gekko. Hated that they made me think about a movie about yuppies when I was playing a post-apocalyptic adventure. Hated it. No joke, when I think about FO 2, years after, it's still one of the first things that spring to my mind. I haunts me, that if I ever play FO 2, I'll have to suffer those stupid lines again.

I understand and respect the point you're making, but what leaves me puzzled is this: Fallout 2 went on record for 13 years as the game with the largest amount of pop culture references [dubbed PCR's for short] ever. 13 years. (Dungeons of Dredmor has since 'referenced' the crown.) It takes :effort: to shove that many PCR's into a game, but that's precisely what they did. And yet...you don't seem to notice this fact, how Fallout 2 is drowning in PCR's, until you reach Gecko. It's only there that you find a PCR that geniunely triggers you.

Did you hear a 'whoosh!' sound as all the other PCR's that came before it just went completely over your head? In Klamath, The Den, Mordoc and Vault City? The Star Wars references, Monty Python, Magic: The Gathering? You're being bombarded by PCR's by the very first NPC you talk to in Klamath, the first place you visit after the starting location, and that didn't set you off?

All those PCRs are one of the reasons why Fallout 2 is worse than Fallout 1: The quality of writing took a vertical nosedive. There are PCR's in Fallout 1 as well, but they're more subtle, less in-your-face.

And now I'm hearing that BG: SoD has the same level of writing, only now it's done by talentless hacks with political agendas instead of people just cramming whatever they could fit into the game due to the absurd deadline of the game.