Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Gargaune]

When I have a proper caster in party I want him to sow death and destruction around instead of summoning electrified wind or some shit

Whoa, D:OS lets wizards summon electrified shit? That's pretty cool, is it called... Scintillating Turd?

 

[Pink Eye]

>They pushed my cleric to my own firewall, knocked her down and pinned her down on the spell which I casted.
Hell yeah, brother. Chalice is fantastic.

 

[Efe]

People talk about barrelmancy or whatever but it’s really a game of strategic teleportation, both offensive and defensive.

barrels 1 shots everything.
teleports only if theres a lava surface around

 

[Desiderius]

You haven’t even skimmed the surface. One shot barrel is speed run exploit in any case.

 

[Cryomancer]

Hell yeah, brother. Chalice is fantastic.

IMO : Pathfinder : Wrath of the Righteous > Knights of the Chalice 2 > Solasta : Crown of Magiste > Divinity : Faerun edition.

Not that the last is bad, just "average". If BG3 was launched in the same year of Sword Coast Legends, everyone would be praising it as the savior of the genre. But BG3 looks bad in relation to much better RPG's. I talked about spells, but martial classes on KoTC2 are extremely powerful too. For example, monks at max level can deal 5 attacks per round with flurry of blows, each one doing 3d8 damage. If he has +6 STR which a monk sould have at this level even without magical enchantment, he would dish 15 (d8 + 6) damage in a single round or 157.5 average damage( 15 * [4.5 + 6] ). The maximum unarmed damage on 5E is d10. And enemies has way more hp on 5E than on KoTC2. Obviously is not likely that all attacks would hit, but you got the damage potential.

 

[Pink Eye]

I love Chalice 2 more than Wrath. It has better enemy AI - which is what you need for these turn based games to be fun. The Turn Based mode for Wrath is also kind of half assed as well.

 

[Desiderius]

Where do you get Chalice2? Is it finished?

 

[Pink Eye]

He's constantly improving the game based on feedback. Nice guy. Anyways, you have to contact Pierre by email: enquiries@heroicfantasygames(dot)com He takes two business days to respond. I got a couple of my buddies who didn't back the game, to buy it that way. Otherwise you're going to have to wait on the GoG/Steam release.

 

[fantadomat]

https://imgur.com/a/YHUHEVJ
This is what shows up. And I regret every single one of these purchases.

only one way to be sure. pm me your account details

I already posted them for everyone to see. Full transparency.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/ontopoly
https://af.gog.com/u/ontopoly?as=1649904300

Thank you Ontoposhit for buying my old games, those funds will go directly into making some more gender fluid dwarves and goblins in BG3.

Always knew you were our greatest fan on the codex.

I only have the first two divinity gamez.

 

[Cryomancer]

I love Chalice 2 more than Wrath. It has better enemy AI - which is what you need for these turn based games to be fun. The Turn Based mode for Wrath is also kind of half assed as well.

I love KoTC more as a tactical game and Wrath more as a "power fantasy". I enjoy this two types of games. Sadly I never played KoTC2, only watched videos. Din't send a e-mail to Pierre, I don't know what to say. Send a "gibe game plox" e-mail seems disrespectful to his time, since he is a lv 20 C++ developer.

BG3, I just don't see the appeal. Doesn't seem to appeal to people who love more "mundane" adventures due the epic starting, nor to people who enjoy power fantasies due the low level gameplay, nor to people who like tactical games. Nor to storyfags, since the story doesn't seem that good(at least on the early access). Nor romancefags, since the romanceable companions are not great.

I only have the first two divinity gamez.

Divine Divinity is the best Larian game.

 

[Raghar]

BG3, I just don't see the appeal. Doesn't seem to appeal to people who love more "mundane" adventures due the epic starting, nor to people who enjoy power fantasies due the low level gameplay, nor to people who like tactical games. Nor to storyfags, since the story doesn't seem that good(at least on the early access). Nor romancefags, since the romanceable companions are not great.

Lots of Larian games are extremely meh. Lack of creativity, over obsession with environmental damage and effects. It was fine in D:OS, but in D:OS2 and BG3 it feels like a repeated joke. And a joke repeated too many times isn't funny.

 

[Volourn]

"Compare this to NWN1 artificial """"intelligence"""" where undead clerics cast heal on themselves(and spoiler : they damage themselves)"

All my time playing NWN, I never saw this one - espicially in the official campaigns. Got video or is this is just lain bullshit. That said, yeah, the AI has some major flaws to be sure. But, it is better than most other RPGs.

As for BG3... This thread should be entitled DOS:OS 3. It'll be playable but it is no fukkin' BG3. FUKK THAT BULLSHIT FAKE NEWS.

 

[Pink Eye]

I love Chalice 2 more than Wrath. It has better enemy AI - which is what you need for these turn based games to be fun. The Turn Based mode for Wrath is also kind of half assed as well.

I love KoTC more as a tactical game and Wrath more as a "power fantasy". I enjoy this two types of games. Sadly I never played KoTC2, only watched videos. Din't send a e-mail to Pierre, I don't know what to say. Send a "gibe game plox" e-mail seems disrespectful to his time, since he is a lv 20 C++ developer.

BG3, I just don't see the appeal. Doesn't seem to appeal to people who love more "mundane" adventures due the epic starting, nor to people who enjoy power fantasies due the low level gameplay, nor to people who like tactical games. Nor to storyfags, since the story doesn't seem that good(at least on the early access). Nor romancefags, since the romanceable companions are not great.

I only have the first two divinity gamez.

Divine Divinity is the best Larian game.

>I don't know what to say. Send a "gibe game plox" e-mail seems disrespectful
Just tell him how much you love Knights of the Chalice and want to buy the sequel. I don't think anyone will turn down a customer who wants to pay.

 

[Desiderius]

Where have I seen the blood splat with the number in it before? Runescape or something?

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Teleportation is by far the most powerful - and in some cases necessary - ability in D:OS II.

What helps its case is that it can serve as a bit of everything. It deals damage, acts as an instant kill in the right context, even at worst can be an useful crowd control ("Just teleport the poor bastard two screens away and del with the others") and it's not blocked/resisted by the armor system.

 

[Desiderius]

My favorite is Teleporting Alexander into the middle of my waiting team (and soon the Worm) to start what seems to be the game’s hardest fight. Takes at least two turns for rest of his crew to get there.

The range you can get on that thing at height is pretty ridiculous.

Also use Retreat, Charge, and the Rogue self-ports constantly for positioning.

 

[underground nymph]

But BG3 looks bad in relation to much better RPG's

Just let’s be honest, it is not an RPGs that you’re after, but rather a build porn. No wonder, WOTR with its extremely bloated class system and hyper epic legendary classes is your number one. Story and writing are extremely amateurish and childish in PF. Yeah, experimenting with builds is fun, but other aspects are very far away from what I would call a good RPG.

 

[Larianshill]

KoTC2 are extremely powerful too. For example, monks at max level can deal 5 attacks per round with flurry of blows, each one doing 3d8 damage. If he has +6 STR which a monk sould have at this level even without magical enchantment, he would dish 15 (d8 + 6) damage in a single round or 157.5 average damage( 15 * [4.5 + 6] ).

Isn't Chalice a faithful adaptation of 3.5? Are you really arguing that monks in 3.5 are strong, or at least stronger than their 5E version?

 

[Sharpedge]

I suspect that D:OS's elemental shenanigans would have worked much better in a game with a mana system. It would also work better if combat wasn't blatantly set up for it (exploding barrels all over the place) and arenas looked more natural. The idea behind the premise of adding the elemental interactions is a good one, to reward "smart" gameplay, but for it to actually reward smart gameplay, the choices need to be less obvious. If you had a mana system whereby straight up detonating someone cost a fair bit of mana, but lighting something on fire which then causes an explosion was relatively cheap, it would do a much better job for facilitating that kind of play, but you would also need a lot of interactions like this, that way you could design more realistic looking arenas and then force players to actually think of an interaction they could cause in an arena that doesn't look like its rigged to explode.

 

[Reinhardt]

cool succubus

vampire interesting

 

[NJClaw]

Where have I seen the blood splat with the number in it before? Runescape or something?

I think it's clear that for KotC and KotC 2 Pierre took a great deal of inspiration from the Dark Sun videogames (Shattered Lands and Wake of the Ravager). The blood splat comes from those games, and the general UI layout (especially regarding spells) is practically identical:

Spoiler

The unusual races/classes available are also taken directly from those games (mul, thri-kreen, gladiator).

 

[Volourn]

"Isn't Chalice a faithful adaptation of 3.5?"

No. But, it's closer than most. And, it does have the type of spirit and udnerstanding.

And, stop saying '3.5'. That just dumb. It is 3rd edition. Period.

 

[MpuMngwana]

Just let’s be honest, it is not an RPGs that you’re after, but rather a build porn.

It's not even build porn. Victor is an easy man to satisfy.

Can necromancer at level 1 cast Epic Ray of Necromancy which deals 1293d81 damage and can one shot ELDER DRAGON GODS and summon 48d56 Greater Power Liches per level which is a CR9001 monster (like on Liches & Necromancers R E T U R N I N G 2.0)? If yes, game is awesome. If no, game is shit and necromancer is NERFED even worse than warlock on NWN2.

 

[Reinhardt]

But it's only true if ELDER DRAGON GODS can cast

Super Epic Ray of Necromancy

which deals 1293d82 damage.
Victor wants ELDER DRAGON GODS to be DANGEROUS!

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Just let’s be honest, it is not an RPGs that you’re after, but rather a build porn.

It's not even build porn. Victor is an easy man to satisfy.

Can necromancer at level 1 cast Epic Ray of Necromancy which deals 1293d81 damage and can one shot ELDER DRAGON GODS and summon 48d56 Greater Power Liches per level which is a CR9001 monster (like on Liches & Necromancers R E T U R N I N G 2.0)? If yes, game is awesome. If no, game is shit and necromancer is NERFED even worse than warlock on NWN2.

But it's only true if ELDER DRAGON GODS can cast

Super Epic Ray of Necromancy

which deals 1293d82 damage.
Victor wants ELDER DRAGON GODS to be DANGEROUS!

Think you're missing a die or two though.