Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[NJClaw]

That is cultural inclination, not a genetic one.

Genetics don't exist in D&D. If in a world with plenty of ways to be come literally omniscient nobody has ever discovered it, it either doesn't exist or is completely irrelevant.

I don't understand why you're acting like the only ways to explain something in a D&D setting are those that we can apply to the real world. IRL we try to justify everything with genetic or cultural influences, but you have to acknowledge that there are many substantial differences between the Forgotten Realms (which is this edition's standard generic setting) and the real world, otherwise this discussion is going nowhere. Many different gods of conflicting pantheons and evil high powers walk around the planet interacting with their followers, while you also have parallel worlds where the concepts of "law", "chaos", "good", and "evil" are tangible things. In this context, necessarily the cultural and practical aspects of races interact in ways we can't simply explain with chemical elements.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn pos

That's because the purpose of a giant cock is not porn dumdum.

 

[Larianshill]

The funniest thing here is, I know exactly why Lacrymas is defending this obviously doomed position, and I think so does everyone else.

 

[NJClaw]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn pos

That's because the purpose of a giant cock is not porn dumdum.

Exactly.

The purpose of a giant cock is to argue online about D&D.

 

[Thac0]

Do you really want to press the point that a race of squat, powerfully built, hardy human adjacent species- whose physical characteristics, which are undeniably caused by their genetics, which renders them uniquely suited for mining, on account of being squat, hardy and powerfully built- are not predisposed by their genetics towards extraction of minerals from subterranean environments?

I would go a lot further even. If your race came into existance in a subterrean way they would have no need for light, and a vastly different lung structure (maybe even gills ling cave salamanders, but in any way a system of breathing that completely renders them immune from miners disease caused from breathing in dust), also I would even give them sunlight sensitivity.

Humans vs Klingons (Star Trek: The Next Generation)? Similarly to Space Marines, every Klingon has redundant organs and rapid metabolism, making them every difficult to kill (in theory).

I know very little about Star Trek, but from what I know the Klingons should be fine. Sci Fi settings are usually better at this, since the species came from a completely different planet they tend to not do this: "humans but with different skin colour and different ears" shit that fantasy suffers from.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn pos

That's because the purpose of a giant cock is not porn dumdum.

Exactly.

The purpose of a giant cock is to argue online about D&D.

Genetic predisposition 1 Lacrymas 0

 

[NJClaw]

See my big cock

Where

 

[ERYFKRAD]

. If your race came into existance in a subterrean way they would have no need for light, and a vastly different lung structure (maybe even gills ling cave salamanders, but in any way a system of breathing that completely renders them immune from miners disease caused from breathing in dust), also I would even give them sunlight sensitivity

Think the Duergar fellas are light sensitive at least.

 

[Lacrymas]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn pos

That's because the purpose of a giant cock is not porn dumdum.

Yet we are talking about professions (war too I guess) and how genetically predisposed a race is to them. Would a race with gigantic cocks be genetically predisposed to be porn actors? Genetically predisposed means biologically driven to do something. Dwarves are not biologically driven to be miners, only culturally.

That is cultural inclination, not a genetic one.

Genetics don't exist in D&D. If in a world with plenty of ways to be come literally omniscient nobody has ever discovered it, it either doesn't exist or is completely irrelevant.

I don't understand why you're acting like the only ways to explain something in a D&D setting are those that we can apply to the real world. IRL we try to justify everything with genetic or cultural influences, but you have to acknowledge that there are many substantial differences between the Forgotten Realms (which is this edition's standard generic setting) and the real world, otherwise this discussion is going nowhere. Many different gods of conflicting pantheons and evil high powers walk around the planet interacting with their followers, while you also have parallel worlds where the concepts of "law", "chaos", "good", and "evil" are tangible things. In this context, necessarily the cultural and practical aspects of races interact in ways we can't simply explain with chemical elements.

I am talking about genetics because other people are talking about genetics?

 

[Lacrymas]

See my big cock

Where

Wait for the OnlyFans announcement.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Would a race with gigantic cocks be genetically predisposed to be porn actors?

They'd definitely be a bunch of horndogs. Porn may or may not figure.

we are talking about professions (war too I guess) and how genetically predisposed a race is to them.

. A race that lives in a perpetual state of war is obviously going to have more aggressive disposition and be as strong and tall as possible, because large muscles let you kill things easier and faster, which ensures your own survival (and it can be intimidating, which also helps in various areas).

Mark well the aggressive disposition which is sometimes best expressed through war.

 

[Harthwain]

Yet we are talking about professions (war too I guess) and how genetically predisposed a race is to them. Would a race with gigantic cocks be genetically predisposed to be porn actors? Genetically predisposed means biologically driven to do something. Dwarves are not biologically driven to be miners, only culturally.

Don't be retarded. It's not that hard to connect dots: if you are more proficient at something, then certain tasks are easier for you to do than others, so you tend to pick up these tasks. Even assuming that a human can be as strong as a dwarf, it will take much more time and effort to dig up a tunnel where a human can fit, while dwarfs don't need as much space.

Mark well the aggressive disposition which is sometimes best expressed through war.

I would go broader than that: through conflict. Could be as large as war or as small as street mugging.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I would go broader than that: through conflict. Could be as large as war or as small as street mugging

Agreed. Was being narrow in response to Lackey.

 

[Lacrymas]

Don't be retarded. It's not that hard to connect dots: if you are more proficient at something, then certain tasks are easier for you to do than others, so you tend to pick up these tasks. Even assuming that a human can be as strong as a dwarf, it will take much more time and effort to dig up a tunnel where a human can fit, while dwarfs don't need as much space.

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn post.

People seem to be confusing big muscles with a biological drive to use those muscles in specific activities like war or mining. That means you feel the need to be a miner or wage war.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn post.

They'd definitely be a bunch of horndogs. Porn may or may not figure.

 

[Butter]

Don't be retarded. It's not that hard to connect dots: if you are more proficient at something, then certain tasks are easier for you to do than others, so you tend to pick up these tasks. Even assuming that a human can be as strong as a dwarf, it will take much more time and effort to dig up a tunnel where a human can fit, while dwarfs don't need as much space.

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn post.

People seem to be confusing big muscles with a biological drive to use those muscles in specific activities like war or mining. That means you feel the need to be a miner or wage war.

This is retarded. Having a large brain (a trait seen across all humans relative to other animals) necessarily predisposes you to using technology to solve problems. A cheetah being fast as fuck (a trait seen across all cheetahs relative to other animals) predisposes it to solving its problems by running. It's self-evident that that the behavior of successful lifeforms is influenced by their biological advantages. Don't conflate an individual outlier's characteristics with the average traits of an entire species. If you want to stick to the sphere of sex, there are many animals that use frequent reproduction as a survival technique (rabbits for instance). They don't have a 13-month gestation period, and they can constantly replenish their numbers, so they do it.

 

[Hace El Oso]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn post.

People seem to be confusing big muscles with a biological drive to use those muscles in specific activities like war or mining. That means you feel the need to be a miner or wage war.

They have a biological drive to live underground, which for a developed civilization necessitates mining.

 

[Lacrymas]

Don't be retarded. It's not that hard to connect dots: if you are more proficient at something, then certain tasks are easier for you to do than others, so you tend to pick up these tasks. Even assuming that a human can be as strong as a dwarf, it will take much more time and effort to dig up a tunnel where a human can fit, while dwarfs don't need as much space.

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn post.

People seem to be confusing big muscles with a biological drive to use those muscles in specific activities like war or mining. That means you feel the need to be a miner or wage war.

This is retarded. Having a large brain (a trait seen across all humans relative to other animals) necessarily predisposes you to using technology to solve problems. A cheetah being fast as fuck (a trait seen across all cheetahs relative to other animals) predisposes it to solving its problems by running. It's self-evident that that the behavior of successful lifeforms is influenced by their biological advantages. Don't conflate an individual outlier's characteristics with the average traits of an entire species. If you want to stick to the sphere of sex, there are many animals that use frequent reproduction as a survival technique (rabbits for instance). They don't have a 13-month gestation period, and they can constantly replenish their numbers, so they do it.

All races in D&D have large brains, and that comes with many, many consequences, that's the problem. This has nothing to do with animals.

 

[Lacrymas]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn post.

People seem to be confusing big muscles with a biological drive to use those muscles in specific activities like war or mining. That means you feel the need to be a miner or wage war.

They have a biological drive to live underground, which for a developed civilization necessitates mining.

Being a miner out of necessity =/= biological drive to be a miner.

 

[Butter]

See my big cock =/= desire to do porn post.

People seem to be confusing big muscles with a biological drive to use those muscles in specific activities like war or mining. That means you feel the need to be a miner or wage war.

They have a biological drive to live underground, which for a developed civilization necessitates mining.

Being a miner out of necessity =/= biological drive to be a miner.

Running really fast out of necessity =/= biological drive to run.

Do you know what evolution is?

 

[Cryomancer]

Fantasy races are different species, IDK why people see then as just different "human ethnic groups". If we pretend that the races of Norse mythology are completely different, a Elf and a Jotun would have less things in common that we have with animals cuz they are different species in completely different planets. And on D&D, races has different myths of creation.

And is not as if culture doesn't impact the fantasy races. See how Elves on Athas are completely different.

All races in D&D have large brains, and that comes with many, many consequences, that's the problem. This has nothing to do with animals.

But they still different as species. To the point that Glantri uses manlets to do all types of experiments to understand then as a species.

Nobody is denying that culture has a very important role(just compare icewind dale with thay), only that being a species adapted to life in forests, with nightvision and to life hundreds of years would be completely different than a species adapted to life in mountains mining.

Do you know what evolution is?

For him, is probably a toll of white supremacy.

 

[Lacrymas]

Yeah, I think we are talking two different languages here. I guess people do love their (very skewed and poorly understood) biological determinism even in D&D and think that means different highly intelligent races will develop biological drives for professions and act more like animals than humans. Even though humans exist and don't do that.

This is like saying humans have a biological drive to slave for their capitalist overlords because we do this out of necessity.

 

[Bhaalspawn]

Fellas, i just want to read a 400 page thread that shits on BG3 and not discuss race-realism.

 

[Larianshill]

Lacrymas, just out of curiosity, what is your degree in?

 

[Lacrymas]

Lacrymas, just out of curiosity, what is your degree in?

Biological determinism.