Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Desiderius]

shame people will still buy this turd, wish more would vote with their wallet.

I purchased in ARS, anyway, modders will fix BG3. Things that needs to be modded to make BG3 good,

1. 3rd edition or 2nd edition hit point values. No more spiders with 144 hp, able to soak 6 shots from a 9 pound cannon(22 damage on average - source ).
2. 3rd edition or 2nd edition spells
3. The rest of previous edition ruleset if possible.
4. Speed up animations in turn based mode
5. Remove the awful single summon limit. You can't have mage hand + familiar

Is like Neverwinter Nights 2. NWN2 is awful without mods like Spell Fixes but with Spell Fixes becomes a great game. I'm sure that BG3 heavily modded will become a great game. Without mods, will be a boring chore. One question. IF someone modds 3e or 2e into the game, do you guys think that WoTC will DMCA the mod?

It’s a 5E game. Tweak 5E or bad Larian tweaks but don’t try to shoehorn it into some game you’ve got in your head that you autistically want to keep playing the rest of your life. Too many people did that with P:K (and 3.5 and/or MMOs) with or without mods and ended up causing a minor trainwreck that’s still ongoing into how people try (and fail) to play Wrath.

The number of people trying to do this (and the ongoing popularity of the games built on earlier editions) suggests that there may be a market for new games using those editions. No reason to turn a 5E game into an abortion that honors neither.

You know, if you don't wanna to play a hypotetical 3rd edition conversion in a mod, you can just .... NOT DOWNLOAD THE MOD. When I played Solasta, with 50% enemy health and 200% damage taken, I had way more fun than in my vanilla first run, same with NWN2 + Spell Fixes. I am glad that we are finally getting 5E adaptations into CRPG's, but if I can play the same adventure in 5E or previous editions, I will chose previous editions.

Lets be real, 3E has a lot of adaptations. ToEE, SW:Kotor 1/2, NWN1/2, DDO, IWD 2, and the Pathfinder Games which are 3.75. Not counting the OGL games like KoTC 1/2 and Low Magic Age. 5E untill Solasta and BG3 only got mobile cashgrabs. I don't wanna BG3 to be 3.*E or 2E but I wanna mods to make this options available for "grognards".

I’d rather the grogs focus on making 5E playable or better get started putting together all the best ideas into a dominant 6E that we can get a new generation hooked on.

People try to play PF as 3.75 but that makes them suck. It’s more like 4th Edition done right. I may never get to play the cRPG adaptions of 5E because they seem to be made by and for psychopaths but I don’t want to prejudge before I get to play the release version of BG3.

Hopefully Sven won’t gratuitously accuse me of genocide and force me to return the game so I can get a feel for it. I liked D:OS II at least until the D3 style item chasing got to be too much.

 

[Cryomancer]

Why Larian is so slow in delivering new content? I mean, OwlCat developed way more classes, races, spells and mythic paths and their beta has 4 chapters. Meanwhile, Larian only delivered Druid.

 

[Desiderius]

Why Larian is so slow in delivering new content? I mean, OwlCat developed way more classes, races, spells and mythic paths and their beta has 4 chapters. Meanwhile, Larian only delivered Druid.

Takes longer to spend all that money.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Why Larian is so slow in delivering new content? I mean, OwlCat developed way more classes, races, spells and mythic paths and their beta has 4 chapters. Meanwhile, Larian only delivered Druid.

Slavs are highly competent when it comes to this type of thing. This is why they got Satelites and men into orbit long before NASA even though they both drew from pretty much the same pool of former 3rd Reich scientists.

 

[Shrimp]

Why Larian is so slow in delivering new content? I mean, OwlCat developed way more classes, races, spells and mythic paths and their beta has 4 chapters. Meanwhile, Larian only delivered Druid.

Having your development team spread out over 7 or 8 offices across the entire world is probably a logistics nightmare tbh

 

[Harthwain]

Why Larian is so slow in delivering new content? I mean, OwlCat developed way more classes, races, spells and mythic paths and their beta has 4 chapters. Meanwhile, Larian only delivered Druid.

Having your development team spread out over 7 or 8 offices across the entire world is probably a logistics nightmare tbh

Also, they were adding changes to reactivity, which is more complex than adding stuff that has barely any impact outside of combat (if any).

 

[Lacrymas]

There is also the fact OwlCat are working only on content, the gameplay part of the game was done before they even started.

 

[Saravan]

There is also the fact OwlCat are working only on content, the gameplay part of the game was done before they even started.

Have to also take into account graphical fidelity of a game. The higher it is the longer it takes to get right anything from equipment design to spell/ability effects related to a class.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Yesterday I was taking a pause from the Wraith of the Righteous beta and I decided to launch BG3 and fool around for half a hour. Sometimes the close comparison helps giving me some perspective on what each game does well and what it does poorly.

Long story short, I summoned a cat familiar and use it to attack a bird in the druid grove, which somehow triggered an all-out war between tieflings and druids.
Aside for the entire sequence of events being hilariously out-of-proportions, I can't help but being a bit impressed by every single surviving tiefling after the battle having an unique comment about the whole massacre.
Some were still angry at the druids for forcing their hand, some were sad it turned out that way, few even commented on the death of specific characters (note: nothing scripted, to be clear; everything solved "systemically" during the royal rumble).

Say what you want about this game's occasional shortcomings, but it's hard to not be impressed by this level of reactivity in a product with high production value/ advanced visual presentation.

 

[Atchodas]

DOS 2 had reactivity for basically breaking the game and killing end game bosses in chapter 1

 

[MajorMace]

DOS II reactivity is such a waste though. Like putting gold leaves on a turd.
I'm more enthusiastic about BG3 which I think has better systems and worldbuilding.

 

[Cryomancer]

Yep. But reactivity is not a exclusivity from Larian games. you with a pure CHA build can convince the final boss of arcanum to kill himself. You with a tier 2 necromantic spell could talk with deceased NPC's. You don't have classes per say in Arcanum, but people react to your race, beauty stats, strength, magical aptitude, technological aptitude, choices, background(...) Credit to Larian. Larian is the first developer with fully voice acting to have tons of dialog to talk with animals in dos2 and speak with the dead in bg3 and fully voice acting.

 

[Mortmal]

Yesterday I was taking a pause from the Wraith of the Righteous beta and I decided to launch BG3 and fool around for half a hour. Sometimes the close comparison helps giving me some perspective on what each game does well and what it does poorly.

Long story short, I summoned a cat familiar and use it to attack a bird in the druid grove, which somehow triggered an all-out war between tieflings and druids.
Aside for the entire sequence of events being hilariously out-of-proportions, I can't help but being a bit impressed by every single surviving tiefling after the battle having an unique comment about the whole massacre.
Some were still angry at the druids for forcing their hand, some were sad it turned out that way, few even commented on the death of specific characters (note: nothing scripted, to be clear; everything solved "systemically" during the royal rumble).

Say what you want about this game's occasional shortcomings, but it's hard to not be impressed by this level of reactivity in a product with high production value/ advanced visual presentation.

That's nice to have reactivity , but its on a very limited environment ,we have yet to see anything else than act 1. They arent showing anything so given how they overhype even patch notes, that probably means there's nothing to show and it will take years. I prefer a full game with an epic 80h adventure on one playthrough with ton of character choices rather than the very polished act 1 of a low level d&d game with those gimmicks and fooling around . It's extremely unlikely it will be as polished on second and third act anyway.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

That's nice to have reactivity , but its on a very limited environment ,we have yet to see anything else than act 1.

Well, when it comes to content I can obviously comment only on what's already there.

 

[Thonius]

Yesterday I was taking a pause from the Wraith of the Righteous beta and I decided to launch BG3 and fool around for half a hour. Sometimes the close comparison helps giving me some perspective on what each game does well and what it does poorly.

Long story short, I summoned a cat familiar and use it to attack a bird in the druid grove, which somehow triggered an all-out war between tieflings and druids.
Aside for the entire sequence of events being hilariously out-of-proportions, I can't help but being a bit impressed by every single surviving tiefling after the battle having an unique comment about the whole massacre.
Some were still angry at the druids for forcing their hand, some were sad it turned out that way, few even commented on the death of specific characters (note: nothing scripted, to be clear; everything solved "systemically" during the royal rumble).

Say what you want about this game's occasional shortcomings, but it's hard to not be impressed by this level of reactivity in a product with high production value/ advanced visual presentation.

Yep it's epic but who knows if that's going to be in the game. Or if that kind of reactivity is going to be from start to finish since games nowadays put effort only into first half.

Yep. But reactivity is not a exclusivity from Larian games. you with a pure CHA build can convince the final boss of arcanum to kill himself. You with a tier 2 necromantic spell could talk with deceased NPC's. You don't have classes per say in Arcanum, but people react to your race, beauty stats, strength, magical aptitude, technological aptitude, choices, background(...) Credit to Larian. Larian is the first developer with fully voice acting to have tons of dialog to talk with animals in dos2 and speak with the dead in bg3 and fully voice acting.

That's not exactly the same imo.

 

[Oberon]

Yep it's epic but who knows if that's going to be in the game. Or if that kind of reactivity is going to be from start to finish since games nowadays put effort only into first half.

This seems to be a passion project for Swen so I think it's unlikely he'll do it dirty like that.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

Yep it's epic but who knows if that's going to be in the game. Or if that kind of reactivity is going to be from start to finish since games nowadays put effort only into first half.

This seems to be a passion project for Swen so I think it's unlikely he'll do it dirty like that.

Then again they don't necessarily need to be malicious about it... Just to run out of time and money to do more.

 

[Slaver1]

The Poncemaker 2 beta and it's keyboard-centric control scheme via pointless wonky camera rotation which killed middle-mouse button scroll option cuckolded me into the arms of this prestigious mouse-friendly game & I started liking it on my 4th attempt to do so. It didn't hurt that I managed to create a decent looking player character for the first time also, aesthiclly pleasing enough to nullify the autistic spasms of "emotion" he conveyed to the NPC's. Smooth controls, steady camera angles and gorgeous visuals kept me engrossed enough through the playthrough. The explicit anal scene with Shadowheart after celebrating the goblin genocide at the end was also pure incline.

 

[Thonius]

Bruh.... another rustys alt.
Anyhow camera in BG3 is not its strong side. AT ALL. Oh and outside of char models(booobs), bg3 looks the same to me as pathfinder(maybe worse because it reminds me of DOS2 cringe), but with a theme park design on top, yikes. BG 3 got unparalleled magic utility outside of combat and nice branching from what I saw. Now that's a major incline.
Anyhow visually they are equal to me and no amount of polygons will make it different.

 

[Black]

Anyhow camera in BG3 is not it's a strong side

*its

 

[Cryomancer]

keyboard-centric

Better than controller centric.

Controller = decline.

. The explicit anal scene with Shadowheart after celebrating the goblin genocide at the end was also pure incline.

This seems amazing but Arueshalae still the best waifu!!

 

[Saravan]

keyboard-centric

Better than controller centric.

Controller = decline.

. The explicit anal scene with Shadowheart after celebrating the goblin genocide at the end was also pure incline.

This seems amazing but Arueshalae still the best waifu!!

Both of you are degenerate romancefags.

 

[Oberon]

keyboard-centric

Better than controller centric.

Controller = decline.

. The explicit anal scene with Shadowheart after celebrating the goblin genocide at the end was also pure incline.

This seems amazing but Arueshalae still the best waifu!!

Both of you are degenerate romancefags.

Romances are based and Aryan-pilled
Viconia is best wife

 

[Efe]

Romances are Aryan
but you choose black wife after?
something is not right

 

[Humbaba]

Didn't know that romances were only for northern Indians. Explains the massive population though.