Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Alienman]

Maybe they larp as adventurers that only eat fall fruit. Larian, is there enough apples in the world?

 

[fantadomat]

I shit you not, the official forum has a bunch of people who are crying that the new "Supply" system is a "a lot of micromanagement" and "make them feel too restricted on how much they are free to rest".

I feel like I'm being trolled, given that food is actually almost comically over-abundant currently. I ended my Patch 5 partial playthrough with enough supplies saved up that could have lasted me something like 39 long rests... I doubt I would do as many playing through the entire final game, twice, and that's if I was being pornographically wasteful with my food on top of it.
I'm also not sure where the mind-bending "micro-management" comes from in clicking "OK" when a pop-up with your 40 supplies selected comes in during rest.

Frankly the system is so generous with resources and so borderline automated, it feels mostly pointless. The main benefit of its introduction is that removed the festering wound that was "using food as healing potions".

If it is an actual inventory items,it will be annoying with the larian inventory system. It will be better if it is just a number you spend money and goes up or down when used,like pillars of eternity camping supplies. Larian have that shitty inventory where there is like 50 different types of food and end up cluttering your inventory.

 

[NJClaw]

I shit you not, the official forum has a bunch of people who are crying that the new "Supply" system is a "a lot of micromanagement" and "make them feel too restricted on how much they are free to rest".

Even if the food was available in a virtually unlimited supply, these people would still whine about this rest restriction. Their problem isn't with the mechanic in itself, but with the general concept of restrictions. Being restricted (especially on something that allows you to recover your resources) makes them feel like they're being suffocated, even if the noose around their head is as big as Swen's giant forehead. It's 100% irrational, there's nothing you can do about it.

Just think about Kingmaker: time limits were so generous that they were nothing more than a flavor detail (you could literally rest after every single encounter and still have plenty of time to do everything), and yet many people were furious about them.

 

[Tuco Benedicto Pacifico]

I agree that the Larian inventory management is a convoluted, disorganized mess. But that's another issue entirely.

And frankly more tied to the inane over-abundance of... Well, everything, really.
Too much food, too many TYPES of food, too many weapons, too many items of all sorts, too many crates (of which many completely empty, in what feels a bit like trolling).

The think is: this new patch did NOT increase any of these elements. If anything it's more forgiving than before. In previous patches you had plenty of reasons to keep food on yourself since it acted as a healing source. In this one you can send all your supplies (aka FOOD) to camp until you actually need them and be done with them.
This is where the irrationality comes from: they have a system that is more forgiving of what they had before, but they catch a whiff of the notion of "restriction" and they lose their minds worrying that they are being limited.

 

[zapotec]

Are the D&D ruleset well implemented?

 

[Harthwain]

I shit you not, the official forum has a bunch of people who are crying that the new "Supply" system is a "a lot of micromanagement" and "make them feel too restricted on how much they are free to rest".

Eh, you will always find a bunch of people whinning about anything in any place. Especially in places where the forum architecture promotes new replies. I can understand the hate Reddit gets, but it does one good thing: it can help measure community's opinion on a particular topic and keeps literal shitposts down (unless they're funny). Surprisingly enough yes-men do not make up the entirety of the playerbase, it just seems that way due to aforementioned "let's bump up this controversial topic and make it appear like it's more important than it really is".

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Are the D&D ruleset well implemented?

It's not AD&D. So no.

 

[Thonius]

Excessive container spam should just you know go away... 300 Crates and if you stop checking them they'll put quest items there just to fuck you up.

 

[Black]

Why did they make Minthara, the female drow, ugly suddenly?

Major tranny warning.

Isn't that how she originally looked or am I just misremembering things? What did they change?

As times goes by she is getting manlier and manlier.
The lower image is an older version btw. Less pronounced bones.

Now compare-

 

[Larianshill]

Unbeknown to many, it's actually illegal to go more than five pages in this thread without discussing Lacrymas' sex life.

Huh. What's the penalty?

 

[Tyranicon]

Will there be any attractive people for me to smash pissers with?

I miss the days of when RPG parties looked like the cover of an old Conan serial.

 

[Saravan]

Romance in RPGs has always been shit and only there to satisfy incels and other degenerates. This however does not mean it should be acceptable that women depicted in games should be uglified to hell and especially transformed into semi-looking trannies just so some fat American wokers feel represented.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

Why did they make Minthara, the female drow, ugly suddenly?

Major tranny warning.

Isn't that how she originally looked or am I just misremembering things? What did they change?

As times goes by she is getting manlier and manlier.
The lower image is an older version btw. Less pronounced bones.

Now compare-

How long until he reaches his final form, "David Bowie?"

 

[Lacrymas]

Yes! I also thought she looked like David Bowie.

 

[ㅤㅤㅤ]

 

[Tyranicon]

Attractive or at least cool-looking parties should be the norm. This is even present in Planescape: Torment, where you basically can't use your dick at all except for one or two exceptions.

Chad party composition:

Not bad for the ancient days of the 90s.

 

[Yosharian]

Why did they make Minthara, the female drow, ugly suddenly?

Major tranny warning.

Isn't that how she originally looked or am I just misremembering things? What did they change?

As times goes by she is getting manlier and manlier.
The lower image is an older version btw. Less pronounced bones.

Now compare-

Huh? That's a dude isn't it? Are you telling me that character is meant to be female?

 

[Saravan]

Attractive or at least cool-looking parties should be the norm. This is even present in Planescape: Torment, where you basically can't use your dick at all except for one or two exceptions.

Chad party composition:

Not bad for the ancient days of the 90s.

The entire party doesn't have to all look like 10/10's, ordinary folk is fine as well. The problem is that I always see this shit where they go out of their way to uglify women and it's so clearly intentional. When you consistently question the gender of what you are looking at it's deliberate.

 

[Thorgeim]

God damn all of them are hedious and look genderless, not to mention the rules, art, dialogues, combat.. i knew it was a good idea to basically start ignoring this game, the only disappointment now is they are ruining one of the best rpg franchise... shame people will still buy this turd, wish more would vote with their wallet.

 

[Desiderius]

I shit you not, the official forum has a bunch of people who are crying that the new "Supply" system is a "a lot of micromanagement" and "make them feel too restricted on how much they are free to rest".

I feel like I'm being trolled, given that food is actually almost comically over-abundant currently. I ended my Patch 5 partial playthrough with enough supplies saved up that could have lasted me something like 39 long rests... I doubt I would do as many playing through the entire final game, twice, and that's if I was being pornographically wasteful with my food on top of it.
I'm also not sure where the mind-bending "micro-management" comes from in clicking "OK" when a pop-up with your 40 supplies selected comes in during rest.

Frankly the system is so generous with resources and so borderline automated, it feels mostly pointless. The main benefit of its introduction is that removed the festering wound that was "using food as healing potions".

That’s what happens when The Customer is Always Right suits meet The Costumer is Always Wrong Reddit Army: they desperately want someone to care enough to tell them no for once in their lives but the suits have been taught to service each and every customer until their balls are dry no questions asked so it’s the resistable force meets the movable object.

Many such cases.

 

[Cryomancer]

shame people will still buy this turd, wish more would vote with their wallet.

I purchased in ARS, anyway, modders will fix BG3. Things that needs to be modded to make BG3 good,

1. 3rd edition or 2nd edition hit point values. No more spiders with 144 hp, able to soak 6 shots from a 9 pound cannon(22 damage on average - source ).
2. 3rd edition or 2nd edition spells
3. The rest of previous edition ruleset if possible.
4. Speed up animations in turn based mode
5. Remove the awful single summon limit. You can't have mage hand + familiar

Is like Neverwinter Nights 2. NWN2 is awful without mods like Spell Fixes but with Spell Fixes becomes a great game. I'm sure that BG3 heavily modded will become a great game. Without mods, will be a boring chore. One question. IF someone modds 3e or 2e into the game, do you guys think that WoTC will DMCA the mod?

 

[Desiderius]

shame people will still buy this turd, wish more would vote with their wallet.

I purchased in ARS, anyway, modders will fix BG3. Things that needs to be modded to make BG3 good,

1. 3rd edition or 2nd edition hit point values. No more spiders with 144 hp, able to soak 6 shots from a 9 pound cannon(22 damage on average - source ).
2. 3rd edition or 2nd edition spells
3. The rest of previous edition ruleset if possible.
4. Speed up animations in turn based mode
5. Remove the awful single summon limit. You can't have mage hand + familiar

Is like Neverwinter Nights 2. NWN2 is awful without mods like Spell Fixes but with Spell Fixes becomes a great game. I'm sure that BG3 heavily modded will become a great game. Without mods, will be a boring chore. One question. IF someone modds 3e or 2e into the game, do you guys think that WoTC will DMCA the mod?

It’s a 5E game. Tweak 5E or bad Larian tweaks but don’t try to shoehorn it into some game you’ve got in your head that you autistically want to keep playing the rest of your life. Too many people did that with P:K (and 3.5 and/or MMOs) with or without mods and ended up causing a minor trainwreck that’s still ongoing into how people try (and fail) to play Wrath.

The number of people trying to do this (and the ongoing popularity of the games built on earlier editions) suggests that there may be a market for new games using those editions. No reason to turn a 5E game into an abortion that honors neither.

 

[Cryomancer]

shame people will still buy this turd, wish more would vote with their wallet.

I purchased in ARS, anyway, modders will fix BG3. Things that needs to be modded to make BG3 good,

1. 3rd edition or 2nd edition hit point values. No more spiders with 144 hp, able to soak 6 shots from a 9 pound cannon(22 damage on average - source ).
2. 3rd edition or 2nd edition spells
3. The rest of previous edition ruleset if possible.
4. Speed up animations in turn based mode
5. Remove the awful single summon limit. You can't have mage hand + familiar

Is like Neverwinter Nights 2. NWN2 is awful without mods like Spell Fixes but with Spell Fixes becomes a great game. I'm sure that BG3 heavily modded will become a great game. Without mods, will be a boring chore. One question. IF someone modds 3e or 2e into the game, do you guys think that WoTC will DMCA the mod?

It’s a 5E game. Tweak 5E or bad Larian tweaks but don’t try to shoehorn it into some game you’ve got in your head that you autistically want to keep playing the rest of your life. Too many people did that with P:K (and 3.5 and/or MMOs) with or without mods and ended up causing a minor trainwreck that’s still ongoing into how people try (and fail) to play Wrath.

The number of people trying to do this (and the ongoing popularity of the games built on earlier editions) suggests that there may be a market for new games using those editions. No reason to turn a 5E game into an abortion that honors neither.

You know, if you don't wanna to play a hypotetical 3rd edition conversion in a mod, you can just .... NOT DOWNLOAD THE MOD. When I played Solasta, with 50% enemy health and 200% damage taken, I had way more fun than in my vanilla first run, same with NWN2 + Spell Fixes. I am glad that we are finally getting 5E adaptations into CRPG's, but if I can play the same adventure in 5E or previous editions, I will chose previous editions.

Lets be real, 3E has a lot of adaptations. ToEE, SW:Kotor 1/2, NWN1/2, DDO, IWD 2, and the Pathfinder Games which are 3.75. Not counting the OGL games like KoTC 1/2 and Low Magic Age. 5E untill Solasta and BG3 only got mobile cashgrabs. I don't wanna BG3 to be 3.*E or 2E but I wanna mods to make this options available for "grognards".

 

[Fedora Master]

I shit you not, the official forum has a bunch of people who are crying that the new "Supply" system is a "a lot of micromanagement" and "make them feel too restricted on how much they are free to rest".

I feel like I'm being trolled, given that food is actually almost comically over-abundant currently. I ended my Patch 5 partial playthrough with enough supplies saved up that could have lasted me something like 39 long rests... I doubt I would do as many playing through the entire final game, twice, and that's if I was being pornographically wasteful with my food on top of it.
I'm also not sure where the mind-bending "micro-management" comes from in clicking "OK" when a pop-up with your 40 supplies selected comes in during rest.

Frankly the system is so generous with resources and so borderline automated, it feels mostly pointless. The main benefit of its introduction is that removed the festering wound that was "using food as healing potions".

That’s what happens when The Customer is Always Right suits meet The Costumer is Always Wrong Reddit Army: they desperately want someone to care enough to tell them no for once in their lives but the suits have been taught to service each and every customer until their balls are dry no questions asked so it’s the resistable force meets the movable object.

Many such cases.

Between Larian and their fans it's retards all the way down.

 

[Desiderius]

I shit you not, the official forum has a bunch of people who are crying that the new "Supply" system is a "a lot of micromanagement" and "make them feel too restricted on how much they are free to rest".

I feel like I'm being trolled, given that food is actually almost comically over-abundant currently. I ended my Patch 5 partial playthrough with enough supplies saved up that could have lasted me something like 39 long rests... I doubt I would do as many playing through the entire final game, twice, and that's if I was being pornographically wasteful with my food on top of it.
I'm also not sure where the mind-bending "micro-management" comes from in clicking "OK" when a pop-up with your 40 supplies selected comes in during rest.

Frankly the system is so generous with resources and so borderline automated, it feels mostly pointless. The main benefit of its introduction is that removed the festering wound that was "using food as healing potions".

That’s what happens when The Customer is Always Right suits meet The Costumer is Always Wrong Reddit Army: they desperately want someone to care enough to tell them no for once in their lives but the suits have been taught to service each and every customer until their balls are dry no questions asked so it’s the resistable force meets the movable object.

Many such cases.

Between Larian and their fans it's retards all the way down.

Larian aren’t retarded they’re just Belgian, which is a mixed bag but not strictly worse, at least on the dimensions we care about. I mean they did give us Magritte.