Putting the 'role' back in role-playing games since 2002.
Donate to Codex
Good Old Games
  • Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.

Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Cryomancer

Arcane
Glory to Ukraine
Joined
Jul 11, 2019
Messages
17,232
Location
Frostfell
Most of the issues I have with the game are inherent to the 5e ruleset therefore aren't really fair criticisms of BG3 but merely critiques of D&D 5e

This point I have to agree. And honestly, Larian fixed some really bad stuff in BG3 like surface effects in mere cantrips like firebolt.

look up their posting history and there are always a bunch of positive posts in Wrath of the Tranny's thread.

The game which I chilled most in Codex is Dark Sun : Wake of the Ravager. But yes, WoTR if you like power fantasy and build crafting, is a amazing game.

buildfag spreadsheet simulator

Well, I did finished WoTR as a half vampire(dhampir) "blood necromancer" cruoromancer who uses his own tainted blood to power necromancies and he decided to kill his former master and not become a lich in ch 5. Also played as an Azata cryomancer(Elemental specialist - cold), despite both being wizards, both are COMPLETELY different types of wizard. I had completely different quests in many chapters. Even faced completely different enemies in chapter 5. You can build so many interesting characters in that game. I din't found any build in BG3 interesting TBH. Maybe when the game launches or if Larian makes modding BG3 easier, it will change, but playing a char that I like is vital for my enjoyment of any RPG but I din't liked any wizard subclass present in the game, nor warlock pact(both classes are the unique of my interest).

Anyway, Even I who don't like Larian must recognize that :
  • Larian re popularized turn based RPG's. If I can play OwlCat games in TB is partially thanks to Larian.
  • Larian is addressing most of bad points of BG3. No more surface effects, the UI improved(still too similar to DOS2)
  • Larian offers high reactivity. While in WoTR you only see reactivity in later chapters, in Larian you see a lot of it since chapter 1
  • Larian is the unique high production cost AAA company that makes proper RPG's. While BioWare only makes shit like DA:I, ME:Andromeda and Bugthesda launches fallout 76, Larian games are good in comparison to this games.
Convoluted mechanics =/= good game

I kinda agree. Gothic 1/2/3 have very simple mechanics and are great games. But PF1E and AD&D 2E don't have convoluted mechanics. Convoluted mechanics is like FATAL TTRPG or GURPS if the ""DM"" goes full rule-autism(because gurps can be rule light if the group wanna)

you can go respec at any point in time therefore your decisions have no real consequences

Yep. I that is a problem. In higher difficulties, respec isn't allowed. Respec is a clear decline.
 

jackofshadows

Arcane
Joined
Oct 21, 2019
Messages
5,154
Respec isn't a "cancer" or "decline" is a fucking bullshit feature and it doesn't belong in any real RPG, yes. Partly why I have a certain disdain for ATOM/TG.
 

Harthwain

Arcane
Joined
Dec 13, 2019
Messages
5,481
In an ideal situation you don't need to respect, because all skills can be useful in certain situations, even if they can be niche ones. Also, it encourages creativity.
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
50,754
Codex Year of the Donut
Respecing is cancer and doesn't belong in any proper RPG.
*Except companions when they first join, because fuck dealing with the dev's subpar build choices.
a companion's class/skills/abilities/whatever are part of their character

one of the few things I liked about deadfiya was that it let you pick from a handful of fitting classes/subclasses, but even then it sometimes went too far(e.g., Eder as a rogue)
 
Self-Ejected

underground nymph

I care not!
Patron
Joined
Jun 9, 2019
Messages
1,252
Strap Yourselves In
Except companions when they first join, because fuck dealing with the dev's subpar build choices.
Dunnou, I find it more fun to get the most out of what a companion has to offer. I even encouraged myself to make suboptimal builds and to leave some unpredictability in character leveling. Frankly I find 5e to be quite friendly to this need. Some games e.g. Underrail demands builds to be optimized and thoroughly planned over which I also like, but consider a genre of its own.
 

Sunri

Liturgist
Joined
Apr 16, 2020
Messages
2,915
Location
Poland
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.
 

mediocrepoet

Philosoraptor in Residence
Patron
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
13,856
Location
Combatfag: Gold box / Pathfinder
Codex 2012 Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. MCA Project: Eternity Divinity: Original Sin 2
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.
 

Sunri

Liturgist
Joined
Apr 16, 2020
Messages
2,915
Location
Poland
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?
xMvNb51.png
 

mediocrepoet

Philosoraptor in Residence
Patron
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
13,856
Location
Combatfag: Gold box / Pathfinder
Codex 2012 Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. MCA Project: Eternity Divinity: Original Sin 2
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?

"I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress"

It's a mystery. Do you even read what you write?
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
50,754
Codex Year of the Donut
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?
xMvNb51.png
nothing has changed 0 progress

There has been 15 community updates, 6 major patches, and 19 hotfixes.
If your complaint is that you bought a game clearly marked "early access" and it's not finished.. well.. stop being retarded?
 

Sunri

Liturgist
Joined
Apr 16, 2020
Messages
2,915
Location
Poland
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?

"I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress"

It's a mystery. Do you even read what you write?

I don't count adding another shitty class that have 1 useful spell as big change
 

mediocrepoet

Philosoraptor in Residence
Patron
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
13,856
Location
Combatfag: Gold box / Pathfinder
Codex 2012 Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. MCA Project: Eternity Divinity: Original Sin 2
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?

"I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress"

It's a mystery. Do you even read what you write?

I don't count adding another shitty class that have 1 useful spell as big change

At least put some effort into it. Jesus. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/baldurs-gate-3-update-6-adds-grymforge-region-sorcerer-class
 

Thonius

Arcane
Joined
Sep 18, 2014
Messages
6,495
Location
Pro-Tip Corporation.
Loaded up the game (it was a gift from a bro) and well, the graphics feel like they are not that good as when I loaded it first and well there is sorc...
Where's races and new classes and all domain and such? Still in nautiloid so eh... still gonna play and enjoy.
 

Sunri

Liturgist
Joined
Apr 16, 2020
Messages
2,915
Location
Poland
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?

"I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress"

It's a mystery. Do you even read what you write?

I don't count adding another shitty class that have 1 useful spell as big change

At least put some effort into it. Jesus. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/baldurs-gate-3-update-6-adds-grymforge-region-sorcerer-class


damm one location with 6 quest in one year i hope they are not overworked at larian dont want Sven to kick the bucket before he release this game 10 years later
grymforge_map_bg3_wiki_guide.jpg
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
50,754
Codex Year of the Donut
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?

"I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress"

It's a mystery. Do you even read what you write?

I don't count adding another shitty class that have 1 useful spell as big change

At least put some effort into it. Jesus. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/baldurs-gate-3-update-6-adds-grymforge-region-sorcerer-class


damm one location with 6 quest in one year i hope they are not overworked at larian dont want Sven to kick the bucket before he release this game 10 years later
grymforge_map_bg3_wiki_guide.jpg
Maybe you should have, idk, looked at their previous early access before buying this one?
DOS2 EA never had more than Fort Joy. I wasn't expecting them to add any new zones.

Grymforge was accessible when the game first released in October 2020, I took a screenshot there.
Surprise, most of the game was already implemented in some form. Yes, including Baldur's Gate itself, and yes, I already posted about the zones that will be in the game well over a year ago.

Also, I've found act 2 information so I'm guessing some of it is already in the game and someone found a way to access it
ayyy
7NNsBEf.png

You bought an unfinished game and are angry that it's unfinished.
 

mediocrepoet

Philosoraptor in Residence
Patron
Joined
Sep 30, 2009
Messages
13,856
Location
Combatfag: Gold box / Pathfinder
Codex 2012 Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. MCA Project: Eternity Divinity: Original Sin 2
People already paid for this game why would their finish it?
I saw you act not like a retard in some threads, why insisting on being a retard here?

I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress not only that when last time I tried this game they fucked up all chest you couldn't lockpick anything so I had to drop my run I doubt this game will come out in playable state I think if they ever release this game we will get scammed same way dos2 and wotr scammed us first chapters will be good and polished and late game will be rushed bugged clusterfuck.

Makes sense. I too played a druid on EA release day and toured through the Grymforge.

I haven't even been keeping tabs on the game and know you're either lying or are being retarded.

What i'm lying about?

"I bought this game day 1 and year later nothing has changed 0 progress"

It's a mystery. Do you even read what you write?

I don't count adding another shitty class that have 1 useful spell as big change

At least put some effort into it. Jesus. https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/baldurs-gate-3-update-6-adds-grymforge-region-sorcerer-class


damm one location with 6 quest in one year i hope they are not overworked at larian dont want Sven to kick the bucket before he release this game 10 years later

"nothing has changed 0 progress" -- "damm one location with 6 quest"

And two classes and whatever else they've done and whatever else they've done that they haven't put into the release build. Either way though, I'm somewhat certain that even you can see that "0 progress" =/= "one location with 6 quest" [sic] and two classes. I mean, you get that, right? That these two statements aren't even sort of equivalent?
 

Ulfhednar

Savant
Joined
Apr 29, 2017
Messages
809
Location
Valhalla


That was 2 1/2 years ago... there is still no release date for this game.
Owlcat kickstarted, developed and released WotR in less than 2 years. 25 classes, 5+ archetypes for each class, 9 mythic paths...

Sorcs... woooooow...
 
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
50,754
Codex Year of the Donut


That was 2 1/2 years ago... there is still no release date for this game.
Owlcat kickstarted, developed and released WotR in less than 2 years. 25 classes, 5+ archetypes for each class, 9 mythic paths...

Sorcs... woooooow...

maybe larian has no interest in releasing an unfinished game like owlcat lol

"look at all these classes we have!!!"
*half the spells flat out don't work or are implemented incorrectly*
 

As an Amazon Associate, rpgcodex.net earns from qualifying purchases.
Back
Top Bottom