Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[mediocrepoet]

hey, birthright was gud!

Didn't say it was bad (though most of the things in that list are bad), just that it isn't usually discussed and is more obscure.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Be warned, there are some true pieces of shit in here and this is just off the top of my head

Those are not P&P adaptaions, are Dungeons & Dragons complete bastardizations like sword coast legends and warriors of the waterdeep. When I said "not counting shit like SCL", I was excluding such bastardizations.

I think you should really clarify exactly what you mean because more than one of those has full character creation and the ability to import/export characters into other D&D games. And Volourn mentioned POR2 which is a full party CRPG by any metric.

It's okay to admit that you're objectively wrong, little robot. Hatred for Larian has just blinded you.

 

[017]

I would rate Larian's EA experience *far* above Obsidian's NWN2 Official Campaign at release, and even today.

Retard take #1234

Baldur's Gate starts by handing you over 5 fetch quests and surrounding you with 20 priests who tell you exactly how you need to play the game, you fucking muppet.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthright:_The_Gorgon's_Alliance

I played that. It was shit but it was at least memorable, probably not so much for people playing it now but when it came out there was a fair bit of "I'm going to keep playing this because I can see the ghost of a cool game in here" going on. It was made worse because Conqueror AD 1086 came out a few years earlier and was a better mix of shitty RPG and strategy game, which is also something that people shouldn't bother with now since Mount and Blade is largely a straight improvement. Though I say all this and I haven't played either one for decade(s) now so it's theoretically possible they're better than I remember, I see there's a GoG version of Conqueror so maybe I'll look at that at some point just because I can be lazy.

Baldur's Gate starts by handing you over 5 fetch quests and surrounding you with 20 priests who tell you exactly how you need to play the game, you fucking muppet.

Rat bashing's a proud tradition! The child of Bhaal's gotta start somewhere.

Abdel Adrian, 1368 DR, colorized.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Let me guess...

Spoiler

Still no playable Duergar?

 

[Cryomancer]

Hatred for Larian has just blinded you.

Yep... You are right, but is not only hatred for larian. I only played the good critically acclaimed 2E games from SSI, Dreamforge and other companies.

Baldur's Gate starts by handing you over 5 fetch quests and surrounding you with 20 priests who tell you exactly how you need to play the game, you fucking muppet.

Still better than anything launched by Larian.

 

[Larianshill]

Victor, take your meds.

 

[Bara]

Honestly even with my annoyance that you take a brief stint in hell at level one with BG3 opening I think I'd still take it over BG1's opening.
At least with BG3's intro it's a quick line to getting it over with quickly and even if its not faster than BG1 at least there's no backtracking as you run around the keep.

Only thing good about BG1's opening is that while your doing the fetch quests you are attacked by a assassin meant to shatter any normalcy you feel in the intro and clue up the player and character about some one is after your life.
BG3 also at least had the scene where the PC sees the ceremorphosis happening in the pod to set up something happened to make the process much more rapid and what could happen to them.

I still just don't see the need to go to hell. Two dragons and riders are pursuing the ship and during their battle you break loose and could have still had it crash in the same location after a ill-timed jump to escape combat rather than this extra bit in hell. But I guess they wanted to justify having some mooks to do a tutorial on combat before you hit the beach.

Though they could have just used some fully mind possessed humanoids to try to restrain the pcs for that and have the mindflayers too busy fighting the dragons and githyanki to deal with you personally. That way it feels a little more justified that your level 1 pc can take on these other level 1 mind slaves rather than just getting lucky and only fighting imps as nothing scarier decided to show up for reasons.

 

[underground nymph]

Honestly even with my annoyance that you take a brief stint in hell at level one with BG3 opening I think I'd still take it over BG1's opening.

I love BG1’s opening because it really takes its time while introducing you to the base game mechanics. But most importantly the opening in BG1 is a big hint for a player on how the world works: the game requires a player to be proactive exploring it. This is where the main difference between the BG1 and its sequel is most clearly seen with Irenicus’ dungeon being basically a railroad with its every room having a purpose in advancing the story.

Larian’s take is by all means a modern one: fast-pacing and flashy. Yet still sometimes offer a break which I cannot help but appreciate knowing the vile climate a modern media must be fitting in.

 

[Volourn]

Irenicus' dungeon was awesome. One if the best, deepest prologues ever. The only thing missing is the ability to bang the dryads. The only people who whine about it are those who are idiots and/or played the game a dozen times.

LONG LIVE BG2!

DEATH TO BG3!

 

[Cryomancer]

Irenicus' dungeon was awesome. One if the best, deepest prologues ever. The only thing missing is the ability to bang the dryads. The only people who whine about it are those who are idiots and/or played the game a dozen times.

Agreed. But larian cultists disagrees with you

Check more Larian cultists here >>>
https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/larian-cultists-reviewing-bg1-2-now-with-iwd-ee-reviews.141531/

 

[Volourn]

I know. Seen those before. They make me laugh everything. They make me like BG2 even more because it shows the trash retarts are. If I didn't know any better, I'd think they were troll posts. LOL

 

[mediocrepoet]

46 hours to get out of the starting dungeon and 77 hours on record? That has to be bullshit where the second guy is making fun of the first guy.

 

[Delterius]

so it seems the neverwinter nights fans hate this one

 

[Harthwain]

46 hours to get out of the starting dungeon and 77 hours on record? That has to be bullshit where the second guy is making fun of the first guy.

I doubt it. The game does not explain stuff like THAC0 or saves, because these are covered in the manual, which was the old way (evenmoreso for the adventure games, when manuals were used as the anti-piracy measures). The contemporary standard is to explain stuff like this in the in-game tutorials, so it's yet another indicator as to who we're talking about (a modern player). However, with the internet the way it is now looking up this kind of information is really not an issue, meaning this is - beyond reasonable doubt - the real example of some annoying whiner who would complain about his own inadequacy rather than solve his problems. I mean, any sensible person who doesn't get the rules would check up on them, rather than play for 46 hours and make a review about not understanding what's going on. Conclusion - this is a manchild or just a stupid kid, but the review is likely genuine deal made by a real person.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

You start at lv 3 after the tutorial in a village under attack

Your dude gains 2 levels over the course of a single day by attending a festival and participating in a militia and somehow that is not incongruous to you.

 

[Reinhardt]

how can he play 12 hours in starting dungeon if he has only 7 hours played total?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

how can he play 12 hours in starting dungeon if he has only 7 hours played total?

5 hours offline

 

[mediocrepoet]

You start at lv 3 after the tutorial in a village under attack

Your dude gains 2 levels over the course of a single day by attending a festival and participating in a militia and somehow that is not incongruous to you.

Modern XP systems... he more likely than not won first place in said festival. Credit where it's due. The last guy who did that got a whackload of levels and a prestige class out of it.

 

[Reinhardt]

yeah, it's mandatory to get at least few level ups and pile of magic items in tutorial now.

 

[Swen]

Codex will have to come to terms with the fact BG2 was never good.

Modern reviewers exposed the game for what it is... average.

But don't lose hope Codex, Larian will not disappoint you!.

 

[Reinhardt]

larian are poorfags. they can't even afford beamdog and have to do enhanced editions of their games themselves.

 

[BruceVC]

Codex will have to come to terms with the fact BG2 was never good.

Modern reviewers exposed the game for what it is... average.

But don't lose hope Codex, Larian will not disappoint you!.

I have mentioned this before but BG2: ToB is my favorite RPG of all time and that is against steep competition like W3, Elder Scrolls, ELEX and Gothic games, BT4, D:OS2 and other D&D themed games

Thats one of the main reasons I am such a sheeeeep of the final release of BG3. I have also avoided reading most of the posts and reviews of BG3 that gets created. I scan this thread but I want to keep the excitement of not knowing much about BG3 real So I just follow its development from a high-level perspective and I read the official updates from Larian and Sven which is always humorous, honest and relevant

 

[jackofshadows]

Except by Larian cultists, everyone agrees that is the worst D&D CRPG adaptation(not counting shit like SCL) but will sell well cuz brand recognition.

Especially funny when you unironically write this again in a context of that old interview link which tells us that even half of Larian crew didn't know why BG3 is supposed to be a big deal. And in a context that you yourself like to repeat about dozens of gigabites mocap porn with Astarion.

My friend came up with a better term: BioWare regognition.

 

[Drakortha]

I read the official updates from Larian and Sven which is always humorous, honest and relevant

Larian is none of those things. They are an embarrassment.