Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Child of Malkav]

Shoving people off is so damn fun. Climbing a tower and sniping goblins then one of them gets smart and tries to climb the ladder behind me. Well? Just shove him. With the Thief you have 2 bonus actions so you can shove and then hide, or shove twice. Oh man, seeing goblins fly is something else.
Also, grease is fantastic. Prone for days. And if they don't go prone, well, just shove.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Ok, can someone tell me how to disarm traps on chests????

 

[Gastrick]

Metacritic does the same thing. I have had like 3 accounts banned on metacritic for daring to give a non-10/10 review during the launch window of a major game. Like Zelda Breath of the Trash or Sid Meier's (let's keep the same AI as in the 90s and let barbs become OP to balance the difficulty) Civilization VI.

The exact same thing seriously happened with me. They deleted my review and account after I said a popular game was shit. Or maybe the sentence "they meet up in cliques and decide that they will work together to make certain games seem amazing" hit too close to home. Either I was right then, or they wantonly delete accounts that are negative about popular games, or both.

P.S. Fantadomat is right, there aren't going to be any more PCs in the full version.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Ok, can someone tell me how to disarm traps on chests????

Apparently it's right click, then select disarm option but you need a trap disarming kit or whatever it's called.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Ok, can someone tell me how to disarm traps on chests????

Apparently it's right click, then select disarm option but you need a trap disarming kit or whatever it's called.

Nope. It's not an option.

Does arcane trickster not detect traps on chests or something?

 

[Child of Malkav]

Ok, can someone tell me how to disarm traps on chests????

Apparently it's right click, then select disarm option but you need a trap disarming kit or whatever it's called.

Nope. It's not an option.

Does arcane trickster not detect traps on chests or something?

I just asked on Discord. That's what they said. I haven't encountered (yet) any such chest.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Ok, can someone tell me how to disarm traps on chests????

Apparently it's right click, then select disarm option but you need a trap disarming kit or whatever it's called.

Nope. It's not an option.

Does arcane trickster not detect traps on chests or something?

Ok, well, they're wrong.

Seems no one online has the answer either, which makes me think it's a bug.

 

[Frusciante]

Haven’t played the newer versions of DND. Is it correct that in BG3 you don’t get extra spell slots from higher INT or WIS scores?

And there are no skill points anymore right?

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Haven’t played the newer versions of DND. Is it correct that in BG3 you don’t get extra spell slots from higher INT or WIS scores?

Not sure, but the only thing it says in the stat description is that it affects if the spell lands or not.

And there are no skill points anymore right?

Right. Only proficiency and bonuses.

 

[Thac0]

Haven’t played the newer versions of DND. Is it correct that in BG3 you don’t get extra spell slots from higher INT or WIS scores?

And there are no skill points anymore right?

You only get more spells memorised from your main stat.And the obligatory +5% hitchance with a ray attack and -5% chance to save against it.
And honestly its for the better. Removal of spell slots from main stat goes a long way in fixing the wizards scale quadratically while the rest scales linearily thing. You get much more spellslots early, and less late.

And no, you have proficiencies now. Which is interesting but generally worse than skill points due to you having not enough influence on it.

 

[Agame]

I think the funniest thing about this is them proving through their own analytics that elaborate character creation is mostly a gigantic waste of time and budget.

Kind of like voicing all dialogue? Uses up time and resources for some flashy shit that most people will skip? Aside from the most slack-jawed of hoopleheads...

 

[commie]

Haven’t played the newer versions of DND. Is it correct that in BG3 you don’t get extra spell slots from higher INT or WIS scores?

And there are no skill points anymore right?

You only get more spells memorised from your main stat.And the obligatory +5% hitchance with a ray attack and -5% chance to save against it.
And honestly its for the better. Removal of spell slots from main stat goes a long way in fixing the wizards scale quadratically while the rest scales linearily thing. You get much more spellslots early, and less late.

And no, you have proficiencies now. Which is interesting but generally worse than skill points due to you having not enough influence on it.

Nope. It was much better in earlier versions where you were weak as piss with barely any HP and one or two level 1 slots(which also failed half the time) and had to nurse your dead wood until you scratched out some XP to gain a level or to and then you already became a semi badass when you got an extra slot, and a higher tier where you could get a super useful crowd control spell. Mages in AD&D are the ultimate power so it's right that they gain in utility at an exponential rate(once you survive the lower levels). Conversely, bog standard fighter classes rightly decrease in offensive potential relative to mages. There was this great balancing act where classes were inversely useful and its why dual and triple classing made sense to give the fighter a 'fighting' chance at higher tiers by diversifying. You fail to take into account that linearity for classes that can add extra classes was a good thing, otherwise if they rose exponentially and could be masters of everything, then why need specialists?

 

[Lacrymas]

Kind of like voicing all dialogue? Uses up time and resources for some flashy shit that most people will skip? Aside from the most slack-jawed of hoopleheads...

I very much doubt it's not worth it in the economic sense. Voice acting is expensive, time-consuming, and mostly prevents you from making text alterations after that. If it wasn't worth it, nobody would do it. I'm not saying market analysts know everything at 100% certainty, especially since statistical averages aren't actually real people, but I'm fairly sure they'd have done everything within their power to come to this conclusion.

 

[Frusciante]

Haven’t played the newer versions of DND. Is it correct that in BG3 you don’t get extra spell slots from higher INT or WIS scores?

And there are no skill points anymore right?

You only get more spells memorised from your main stat.And the obligatory +5% hitchance with a ray attack and -5% chance to save against it.
And honestly its for the better. Removal of spell slots from main stat goes a long way in fixing the wizards scale quadratically while the rest scales linearily thing. You get much more spellslots early, and less late.

And no, you have proficiencies now. Which is interesting but generally worse than skill points due to you having not enough influence on it.

Thanks! What do you mean by “you get more spells memorised from your main stat” though? Like more spells learned?

 

[Ol' Willy]

Far from it. In Arcanum you don't only have special dialogue for race and class, but for low INT, what you are wearing (naked, barbarian clothes...) etc

Just as I expected. It's just too much to ask from a 2020 game with the download size of 80 GB to be on par with the 2001 game in the terms of gameworld reactivity.

 

[Lacrymas]

Thanks! What do you mean by “you get more spells memorised from your main stat” though? Like more spells learned?

You can learn all the spells you find as a Wizard, intelligence governs how many of them you can prepare. However, you only have a limited amount of spell slots (i.e. casts) to use them with. If you have 6 prepared spells, but only 3 spell slots, you can cast a spell 3 times from the prepared spell pool. You can cast a spell 3 times or you can cast different spells each time, or any combination thereof, it's up to you. There is no way to influence spell slots with attributes.

 

[Horvatii]

So, I thought to myself "What's the most asshole-ish looking character you can come up with?"

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Melcar

 

[AwesomeButton]

Wow, no reactivity if the PC is a Tiefling in the Druid Grove? Even Baldur's Gate wasn't that bad at reactivity.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Wow, no reactivity if the PC is a Tiefling in the Druid Grove? Even Baldur's Gate wasn't that bad at reactivity.

"OH YOURE A NIGGER? I TOO AM A NIGGER! GOOD DAY, FELLOW NIGGER! HERE IS A REWARD FOR BEING A NIGGER!"

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

So...

Is there any benefit to entering the Underdark via the door instead of, well, you know...the hard way? (Or vice versa.)

Spoiler

By the hard way, I mean dropping down via the spider cave using a feather fall spell.

Having popped down there for a quick look, I have to say that the area design is fantastic looking. Really, gorgeous.

Who was the guy earlier asking to see crazy epic fantasy world stuff? This is it.

 

[Ol' Willy]

"OH YOURE A NIGGER? I TOO AM A NIGGER! GOOD DAY, FELLOW NIGGER! HERE IS A REWARD FOR BEING A NIGGER!"

Play Arcanum as a half-orc, this is the proper nigger experience. With the severe penalty to reputation, most people will treat you like shit; like, you talk to a person and person responds in the likeness of "the fuck you want from me, you half-breed bastard?". And from then you can bend and be polite, or escalate the situation further, like "I demand apologies, you unpolite swine!". And sometimes NPC will buckle to your demands, or won't take such insults from an inferior race and get aggressive. Ahh, sweet memories.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

"OH YOURE A NIGGER? I TOO AM A NIGGER! GOOD DAY, FELLOW NIGGER! HERE IS A REWARD FOR BEING A NIGGER!"

Play Arcanum as a half-orc, this is the proper nigger experience. With the severe penalty to reputation, most people will treat you like shit; like, you talk to a person and person responds in the likeness of "the fuck you want from me, you half-breed bastard?". And from then you can bend and be polite, or escalate the situation further, like "I demand apologies, you unpolite swine!". And sometimes NPC will buckle to your demands, or won't take such insults from an inferior race and get aggressive. Ahh, sweet memories.

Yup. I agree wholeheartedly.

It's just a bit silly to expect a bunch of tieflings to be shocked at seeing yet another tiefling in a tiefling refugee camp.

I think I may play a tiefling at some point, so I'll have to test it out. It seems a pretty obvious bit of false reactivity to just put "[Tiefling] gosh, I really care about these refugees."

There was even a [Human] option I saw recently.

Spoiler

For asking a hag about a human woman.

So it's not like they don't understand how to do reactivity based on race.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Lol at the latest Steam update:

Before the fixes, let’s share something you’ve created yourselves (this is your own fault) through your choices in character creation. We took the most popular choices in character creation, and recreated this. We thought our analytics system wasn’t working! We checked. It is.

Congratulations, you’ve basically made the default Vault Dweller. What the hell guys. We gave you demon eyes, horns, and even tails. We are sorely disappointed. Go crazy. We worked hard on this!

FYI, Swen, this is your target audience - a white male.

Only more proof that Larian know jack shit about RPGs and RPG players.

 

[Lacrymas]

In my D&D group, we are two non-straight white dudes, two women and one straight white guy. Sometimes another woman joins us. None of us play a normie human male (including the straight guy, he plays a female elf paladin atm and has never played a normie human male). So, yeah. And this isn't us purposefully searching anything non-straight, non-male, this is just how the group naturally evolved. RPGs are *very* popular among the non-straights and non-conforming women. It has always been a possibility to imagine an alternative. That is why they were deemed satanic and problematic by conservatives. Fantasy is dangerous to the status quo because you might get ...ideas that maybe the world has the possibility to be different than it is currently.

 

[Agame]

Kind of like voicing all dialogue? Uses up time and resources for some flashy shit that most people will skip? Aside from the most slack-jawed of hoopleheads...

I very much doubt it's not worth it in the economic sense. Voice acting is expensive, time-consuming, and mostly prevents you from making text alterations after that. If it wasn't worth it, nobody would do it. I'm not saying market analysts know everything at 100% certainty, especially since statistical averages aren't actually real people, but I'm fairly sure they'd have done everything within their power to come to this conclusion.

Agreed, and I'm sure that stuff moves product. Its just frustrating when these kind of flashy bells and whistles take precedence over actual quality game design.