Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lacrymas]

Everything is Ed's fetish.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Yup. I agree wholeheartedly.

It's just a bit silly to expect a bunch of tieflings to be shocked at seeing yet another tiefling in a tiefling refugee camp.

I was talking about when you meet the actual druids in the scene where they execute the tiefling girl, you bufoon.

 

[AwesomeButton]

BTW, I'm so fearful that homos are going to "change the status quo" through their roleplaying homos at PnP sessions.

 

[Nano]

Went on reddit because I'm either a masochist or retarded and decided to see what the larian cultists were up to in their home turf: the divinity original sin subreddit. There's a banner of Baldurs Gate 3 on the divinity original sin subreddit. Everybody knows this game is DOS:3 and not BG3 but you still get hate for saying it.

Except it's clearly more faithful to the chosen ruleset than BG1 or BG2 were?

They removed alignments, nothing about this is "faithful" to the source.

 

[jackofshadows]

Lol at the latest Steam update:

Before the fixes, let’s share something you’ve created yourselves (this is your own fault) through your choices in character creation. We took the most popular choices in character creation, and recreated this. We thought our analytics system wasn’t working! We checked. It is.

Congratulations, you’ve basically made the default Vault Dweller. What the hell guys. We gave you demon eyes, horns, and even tails. We are sorely disappointed. Go crazy. We worked hard on this!

FYI, Swen, this is your target audience - a white male.

Only more proof that Larian know jack shit about RPGs and RPG players.

Eh, they are not stupid, don't underestimate Swen and his crew. After all, they have tons of stats from D:OS 1/2, I wonder how average char looks like there given both games are very popular by the normies?

It's just an ironical encouraging to try something new, to roleplay something different because when it'll come to co-op - what's the point of having all those reactivity if party consist of 4 white humans? (not that game acknowledge your skin color, kek).

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Yup. I agree wholeheartedly.

It's just a bit silly to expect a bunch of tieflings to be shocked at seeing yet another tiefling in a tiefling refugee camp.

I was talking about when you meet the actual druids in the scene where they execute the tiefling girl, you bufoon.

Lol and what did you want elf Trump to say?

“Hello, outsider who is also a tiefling. I hate you even more because you’re a tiefling!”?

Thats retarded. She’s not a racist, she’s xenophobic. She wants the grove to be for Druids and no one else. She already doesn’t like you for that very reason and just wants to use you to get rid of the refugees.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

For god sake, they know their audience consists mostly of white males, they are just fishing for woke points to attract even more cucks.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

For god sake, they know their audience consists mostly of white males, they are just fishing for woke points to attract even more cucks.

That or many on the team may be infected with woke.

That comment about being proud to be called cucks and the literal cuckoldry book in the game has me wondering.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Lol and what did you want elf Trump to say?

“Hello, outsider who is also a tiefling. I hate you even more because you’re a tiefling!”?

Thats retarded. She’s not a racist, she’s xenophobic. She wants the grove to be for Druids and no one else. She already doesn’t like you for that very reason and just wants to use you to get rid of the refugees.

Much of the stuff you write is retarded, no doubt there.

 

[Lacrymas]

BTW, I'm so fearful that homos are going to "change the status quo" through their roleplaying homos at PnP sessions.

It's not only about "homos" since not only they are unhappy under the current status quo. I'm just saying RPGs have always been popular with deviant mindsets or can easily lead to divergent thoughts (whether they be political, economic, personal), and that's why conservatives always seem to deem fantasy as satanic and problematic (D&D, Harry Potter, comics, what have you). I can vouch from personal experience that it was indeed RPGs which made me accept my various non-conforming proclivities and I could explore them in a safe environment with no real life consequences. Is this something new for hardcore RPG players like the 'Dex? I'm actually surprised.

 

[NJClaw]

P.S. Fantadomat is right, there aren't going to be any more PCs in the full version.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

For god sake, they know their audience consists mostly of white males, they are just fishing for woke points to attract even more cucks.

That or many on the team may be infected with woke.

That comment about being proud to be called cucks and the literal cuckoldry book in the game has me wondering.

Yeah, you're right. they could genially be in denial about how diverse their audience is.

 

[AwesomeButton]

BTW, I'm so fearful that homos are going to "change the status quo" through their roleplaying homos at PnP sessions.

It's not only about "homos" since not only they are unhappy under the current status quo. I'm just saying RPGs have always been popular with deviant mindsets or can easily lead to divergent thoughts (whether they be political, economic, personal), and that's why conservatives always seem to deem fantasy as satanic and problematic (D&D, Harry Potter, comics, what have you). I can vouch from personal experience that it was indeed RPGs which made me accept my various non-conforming proclivities and I could explore them in a safe environment with no real life consequences. Is this something new for hardcore RPG players like the 'Dex? I'm actually surprised.

I agree in principle, it just sounded so serious the past time you wrote it.

Speaking of this, I wonder how much more prevalent would the human male characters be if Swen could add the data from all the pirated copies to his statistics. :D Anyway, I know I'm making a wite human male fighter and naming him Swen the first time I play, whenever it is when they release the full game. Though I'm sure the demographic will be even more categorically set on the same profile by then.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Lol and what did you want elf Trump to say?

“Hello, outsider who is also a tiefling. I hate you even more because you’re a tiefling!”?

Thats retarded. She’s not a racist, she’s xenophobic. She wants the grove to be for Druids and no one else. She already doesn’t like you for that very reason and just wants to use you to get rid of the refugees.

Much of the stuff you write is retarded, no doubt there.

I’ll take that as an admission of defeat.

Let me know if you have any other dumb arguments for me to shoot down.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Is this something new for hardcore RPG players like the 'Dex? I'm actually surprised.

Escapism then. Ahh, that's why I like post-apo and hate fantasy. The feeling of despair, despondence, hopelessness, when you barely scrap by but rise above the ashes in the end... or not. Slavic thing, I guess.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

For god sake, they know their audience consists mostly of white males, they are just fishing for woke points to attract even more cucks.

That or many on the team may be infected with woke.

That comment about being proud to be called cucks and the literal cuckoldry book in the game has me wondering.

Yeah, you're right. they could genially be in denial about how diverse their audience is.

Yeah, maybe, but I doubt this. It’s not like woke people actually think they’re making games for blacks. It’s just that they derive joy from spreading their cancerous philosophy into everything they touch so they can virtue signal about it later.

 

[Lacrymas]

I agree in principle, it just sounded so serious the past time you wrote it.

It depends on what you mean by "serious". RPGs themselves don't change the status quo, but the thoughts they lead to do. Why do you think authoritarian regimes deemed it necessary to burn books and strictly control the artistic output of their subjects? It's not because they wanted more quality RPGs. And once you've tasted one forbidden fruit, more are sure to come.

Escapism then. Ahh, that's why I like post-apo and hate fantasy. The feeling of despair, despondence, hopelessness, when you barely scrap by but rise above the ashes in the end... or not. Slavic thing, I guess.

The principle is the same. It doesn't matter whether it's post-apo or fantasy as in the genre, I meant that word as an all-encompassing umbrella. Different settings and imaginary situations lead us to consider whether they are possible irl. Post-apocalyptic settings aren't this conservative utopia where everyone is white and straight, and capitalism rules supreme, quite the contrary. Fallout was made by one of the most famous gays in the industry, Tim Cain. Fallout 2 had a gay wedding. Hell, the post-apocalypse is the ultimate collapse of the status quo, you don't get more escapist and divergent than that.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Post-apocalyptic settings aren't this conservative utopia where everyone is white and straight, and capitalism rules supreme, quite the contrary. Fallout was made by one of the most famous gays in the industry, Tim Cain. Fallout 2 had a gay wedding. Hell, the post-apocalypse is the ultimate collapse of the status quo, you don't get more escapist and divergent than that.

Exactly. The fall of the society, the fall of the government, anarchy and the possibilities it creates. Although there is a difference. Fantasy is ultimately a setting about imaginary worlds, worlds that never existed and never will, with their weird rules. Post-apo is more realistic, and gives us a possible future when the state and society go down in flames. Fantasy is better for escapism, it has different laws; post-apo has no laws at all, is about struggle and homo homini lupus est rules the day.

 

[Avarize]

BTW, I'm so fearful that homos are going to "change the status quo" through their roleplaying homos at PnP sessions.

It's not only about "homos" since not only they are unhappy under the current status quo. I'm just saying RPGs have always been popular with deviant mindsets or can easily lead to divergent thoughts (whether they be political, economic, personal), and that's why conservatives always seem to deem fantasy as satanic and problematic (D&D, Harry Potter, comics, what have you). I can vouch from personal experience that it was indeed RPGs which made me accept my various non-conforming proclivities and I could explore them in a safe environment with no real life consequences. Is this something new for hardcore RPG players like the 'Dex? I'm actually surprised.

Fantasy has always been the domain of progressives, such as C. S. Lewis and Tolkien.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Fallout 2 had a gay wedding

With the husband/wife being the most worthless companion in the game. Tim was poking at someone of his exes, eh?

 

[Lacrymas]

Fantasy is ultimately a setting about imaginary worlds

Nothing we do is ever about imaginary worlds, it always somehow relates to our lived reality. The concept of elves, dwarves, halflings, even magic, etc. is about people, i.e. us.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Nothing we do is ever about imaginary worlds, it always somehow relates to our lived reality.

That's why a 55 kg guy with astigmatism roleplays as a bulking barbarian and law-abiding girl next door roleplays as a thief. While in post-apo you can roleplay as a someone similar to yourself. You see, fantasy allows you to distance yourself from your character and post-apo makes you think "what I would have done in a such situation?"

 

[Thac0]

Exactly. The fall of the society, the fall of the government, anarchy and the possibilities it creates. Although there is a difference. Fantasy is ultimately a setting about imaginary worlds, worlds that never existed and never will, with their weird rules. Post-apo is more realistic, and gives us a possible future when the state and society go down in flames. Fantasy is better for escapism, it has different laws; post-apo has no laws at all, is about struggle and homo homini lupus est rules the day.

99% of post apocalypse is straight up fantasy. It might have started as speculative fiction with something like Canticle for Leibowitz (although even that is a bit out there, still highly interesting book), but it became just another fantasy world in the next decades. I don't think there is a single post apocalyptic video game that even tries to be halfway realistic. And no, Fallout does not count. It is a visualisation of the hopes and fears of the american post war society.

 

[Salvo]

I'll stand by my opinion that playing half-races is degenerate and that the patrician choice is pure human.

 

[Ol' Willy]

99% of post apocalypse is straight up fantasy.

Post-apo is a subgenre of sci-fi, and if you don't know the difference between sci-fi and fantasy, you should learn it. Sci-fi deals with the concepts that are not possible yet, but can be imagined based on current knowledge or even exist in the future. Hell, why I try to be smart when one of the best writers ever already defined that?

It must have a fictitious world, a society that does not in fact exist, but is predicated on our known society... that comes out of our world, the one we know:
This world must be different from the given one in at least one way, and this one way must be sufficient to give rise to events that could not occur in our society…
There must be a coherent idea involved in this dislocation…so that as a result a new society is generated in the author's mind, transferred to paper, and from paper it occurs as a convulsive shock in the reader's mind, the shock of dysrecognition.

[In] good science fiction, the conceptual dislocation---the new idea, in other words---must be truly new and it must be intellectually stimulating to the reader…[so] it sets off a chain-reaction of ramification, ideas in the mind of the reader; it so-to-speak unlocks the reader's mind so that that mind, like the author's, begins to create…. The very best science fiction ultimately winds up being a collaboration between author and reader, in which both create---and enjoy doing it, [experiencing] the joy of discovery of newness.