Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Harthwain]

So, in order to believe that most people don't demand their DM show the schedules of specific NPCs in PnP, you require proof?

Just because tabletop has harder time to calculate things doesn't mean a video game has the same problem with simulating NPCs' behavior. Daily routines can only work of some characters, not for something dynamic.

And I'm sure you think NPC schedules do that, since you just want to larp in a walking sim.

1) You're the one who keeps harping about "NPC schedules", not me, which clearly shows you have no idea what a simulation means. A real simulation takes changes into the account. That's the whole point of having a system that's interconnected.

2) I still have no idea where your walking sim bullshit comes from, but thanks for proving my point about how clueless you are.

So you want an AI to make real, thinking characters and not the illusion of them, and to have that for every NPC in the game.

Good luck with that. I encourage you to build it instead of arguing online.

Again, educate yourself on what a simulation is, instead of inventing things I never said.

You joined a conversation between two people talking about Oblivion and The Sims 2, one of whom was saying BG3 is a poor game for not having the AI of either.

So? I wasn't talking about Oblivion. I was talking about RPGs in general. It's not my fault you have problems understanding the context (which is clearly visible from this entire conversation).

It's a common term to refer to Oblivion-like games on this site and others.

Bullshit. You have a problem of being fixated on Oblivion. The problem I don't share. You're extra dumb for thinking that I would use Oblivion as an example of something good.

Then you agree that it's not at the core of a true RPG.

You can do things in a variety of ways. Some of them will be good. Some of them will be bad. (And some of them will produce mixed results.) But this is a first time I see when someone is trying to argue that dumb NPCs are a sign of a true RPG... And you were talking about "how low this site has sunk"? Well, at least now we have the answer why.

Given that you seem to think a true tabletop experience involves pestering the DM to prove he's made schedules for random NPCs, I don't think either of us is advocating the true tabletop experience of having a DM TPK you and never invite you again.

Two straw man fallacies in a single sentence? Wow...

 

[Theodora]

Is it too hard for your tards to understand that not every game has to do everything and not every game has to cater to your personal fucking preferences?

It seems to be. Too much internet 'tism makes man-sized children irate when anything is successful (or sometimes even existent) outside their particular niche/interest, sadly.

Because I already won the argument by providing you proof that bestiality is indeed a widespread problem.

You showed that there seems to be an issue in Denmark according to the Danish MoJ ten years ago (it may be a wider issue, but one localised study doesn't show that). Anyway, as I already reiterated, I asked you why you were associating it with specific demographics, and you didn't, you just repeated the same thing. And that was my primary objection.

"Freak" used to be a good enough catchall for them, but here we are, with everyone demanding to be recognized for their own unique flavor of sexual evil. And yes, it is evil. They defile themselves and others with it, even going so far as to target children (with propaganda, if not worse).

lmfao @ this moralising nonsense. "Freak", "evil", this is just soapboxing at this point. You can believe in whatever inherited morality you want, but pretending it's objective truth isn't going to convince a single person that doesn't already share your own beliefs. Most people can agree that abusing anyone or anything under your power is a shitty thing to do, but the rest of these connections are your own.

Let's stop derailing the thread with this, it would be self-indulgent for either of us to continue. (Because this is an RPG thread, not GD.)

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

It seems to be. Too much internet 'tism makes man-sized children irate when anything is successful (or sometimes even existent) outside their particular niche/interest, sadly.

Man-sized? How transphobic.

You showed that there seems to be an issue in Denmark according to the Danish MoJ ten years ago (it may be a wider issue, but one localised study doesn't show that).

You didn't ask for a specific country. Now you want to move the goalposts.

Tell me, why is denying that the sexual abuse of animals is a widespread problem so important to you?

Anyway, as I already reiterated, I asked you why you were associating it with specific demographics, and you didn't, you just repeated the same thing.

I said that I wasn't saying that. But I went on to said that ultimately they associate themselves with all forms of degeneracy.

lmfao @ this moralising nonsense. "Freak", "evil", this is just soapboxing at this point.

And? They are freaks. It is evil. It's perverse, wrong and unhealthy. You want to waste time by going down the semantic route of "prove animal abuse is rampant", but I'm not allowed to soapbox for three sentences?

You can believe in whatever inherited morality you want, but pretending it's objective truth isn't going to convince a single person that doesn't already share your own beliefs.

What makes you think I'm trying to convince you of anything? I'm not offering you a solution or telling you to change your ways. All I'm doing is speaking the truth. Time will convince you, if there's any convincing to be done.

Most people can agree that abusing anyone or anything under your power is a shitty thing to do

Oh, but what if they do have power? What if they chose it? What if that little bear cub is really a person on the inside?

Isn't that what trannies have convinced themselves of when it comes to "transitioning" children?

Let's stop derailing the thread with this

Eh? Is this not the Bear Sex 3 thread? Are we not speaking of the negatives of including bestiality in a videogame?

But ok. You go ahead and stop discussing it.

 

[Yosharian]

what the fuck is a cloaca

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

snip

This really is off-topic. BG3 isn't going to have these features anytime soon. I think that they'd be kind of cool in a videogame, but aren't core to any RPG.

We can just agree to disagree.

 

[Harthwain]

what the fuck is a cloaca

Spoiler

Cloaca Maxima ("largest sewer") was one of the largest Roman structures ever built.

Essentially it means a sewer, but in Latin.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

what the fuck is a cloaca

Egg-laying species, especially reptiles, have a single hole that excretes solid and liquid waste, while also providing for reproductive needs.

See this for more information:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/lamia-naga

 

[The_Mask]

It seems to be. Too much internet 'tism makes man-sized children irate when anything is successful (or sometimes even existent) outside their particular niche/interest, sadly.

This feels like just a very high brow way of saying "u just jelly". Just say "u just jelly" next time.

 

[Nerevar]

I just want SoD to be over Coran ran away with all my gear and now he's getting cucked by a fat guy and can be cucked by the player character also they replaced him with a single mother this is just garbage.

I'm running out of time to finish SoA and ToB before BG3 is out.

 

[Pizzashoes]

I was upset the Githyanki and Githzerai were some freak lizard abominations, but after thinking about it, laying eggs isn't that bad. It makes them seem more draconic, as if Gith's original pact with Tiamat changed how the entire species reproduces. There's also this Githyanki/red dragon hybrid Duth'kagith that definitely fits with the lizard theme.

 

[Theodora]

This feels like just a very high brow way of saying "u just jelly". Just say "u just jelly" next time.

Probably would have if I was talking to him, but I don't see a reason to bother doing that given how detached from reality his complaints are.

What makes you think I'm trying to convince you of anything? I'm not offering you a solution or telling you to change your ways. All I'm doing is speaking the truth. Time will convince you, if there's any convincing to be done.

You were going on about "winning an argument" as though I was trying to argue with you for the sake of winning approval from some imagined audience; but I was asking why you thought something and why you kept connecting something back to a specific group of people. I don't even know what "change my ways" would mean -- stop finding certain women pretty?

"prove animal abuse is rampant"

No, it was specific to sexual abuse of animals, unfortunately general abuse of animals is plenty prevalent. As for the semi-conspiratorial "Tell me, why is denying that the sexual abuse of animals is a widespread problem so important to you?" -- it's not, I just haven't seen anything to suggest this is a common issue in western countries as a whole. I don't have a stake in what the truth is, I was just asking why you believed it to be so. Not everything is so damn ulterior, dude.

But I went on to said that ultimately they associate themselves with all forms of degeneracy.

...which is an extremely loaded and relative term.

Eh? Is this not the Bear Sex 3 thread? Are we not speaking of the negatives of including bestiality in a videogame?

Yes, talk about whatever the fuck if it's to do with the game; I'm saying we should stop wasting space and both of our time talking about "what enables bestiality in society" because it's clear there's little room for meeting of minds.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

I just want SoD to be over Coran ran away with all my gear and now he's getting cucked by a fat guy and can be cucked by the player character also they replaced him with a single mother this is just garbage.

Lol, yeah, it's pretty bad. Enjoy the new areas and just get through it as quickly as possible.

Skip any side quests because they suck, they don't matter and you'll just end up over-leveling yourself for BG2 anyway.

IMO, I would recommend first-time players just skip it until a replay, since it MAJORLY changes your relation to the main villain from BG2.

I guess you can't really skip it if you're using that mod to combine the EE games though, which I do, sadly.

 

[Yosharian]

what the fuck is a cloaca

Spoiler

Cloaca Maxima ("largest sewer") was one of the largest Roman structures ever built.

Essentially it means a sewer, but in Latin.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

You were going on about "winning an argument" as though I was trying to argue with you for the sake of winning approval from some imagined audience; but I was asking why you thought something and why you kept connecting something back to a specific group of people. I don't even know what "change my ways" would mean -- stop finding certain women pretty?

Again, you're reading more into my words than I've written. Like I said, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I gave up on doing that online a long time ago.

No, it was specific to sexual abuse of animals

Semantics. You know what I mean. I didn't provide general abuse stats.

As for the semi-conspiratorial "Tell me, why is denying that the sexual abuse of animals is a widespread problem so important to you?" -- it's not

Great, then you can just admit that it is rampant, given groups online with over a million animal rapists swapping animal rape porn. No need for the "b-but that was 10 years ago and it's a Danish article and..." deflections.

...which is an extremely loaded and relative term.

No, just uncomfortably truthful.

Yes, talk about whatever the fuck if it's to do with the game; I'm saying we should stop wasting space and both of our time talking about "what enables bestiality in society" because it's clear there's little room for meeting of minds.

Ok, for the second time: go ahead and stop then.

 

[Maxie]

where is Nerevar when he's needed

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Maybe Zed Duke of Banville or another codex immersed in the lore could answer this but do the githyanki have a bad reputation or something? Shadowhearts antagonism towards Lazael being githyanki didn’t make much sense to me.

From their introduction in the Fiend Folio, githyanki have always been restricted to evil alignments, whereas their githzerai cousins are chaotic neutral and reside on the plane of Limbo. Despite their past enslavery by mind flayers and despite being human in origin, githyanki not only war against illithids but are also happy to attack humans as well (implicitly, they would also attack demihumans and more or less anyone else not githyanki). They are ruled by an immortal lich-queen, and have a pact with red dragons, which are chaotic evil in alignment.

The far lengthier description of githyanki in the Planescape campaign setting accessory A Guide to the Astral Planes expanded greatly on this original description but didn't substantially differ. The alliance with red dragons was now the result of a pact made with Tiamat herself, the deity of evil dragons, established by Gith, the initial leader of the githyanki. They have always been presented as adversaries for the player characters to combat.

 

[Kiste]

what the fuck is a cloaca

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

I have a question about music in the Baldurs Gate 3 video game game product gang weed.

I know the game has a class called bards, this also means I may meet enemies that are of this class. My religion forbids me from listening to instrumental music does muting music in general result in also muting bards and their instruments or will I have to find and delete some gamefiles to adapt the game for my Faith?

 

[The_Mask]

My religion forbids me from listening to instrumental music

*Chopin thumbs down*

 

[Nerevar]

I guess he knew it was coming.

where is Nerevar when he's needed

I muted the tranny a long time ago. I don't want to get b& for insulting the sacred beasts of the codex. You can't say anything bad about trannies here or else you get b& and have to make your own forum.

I have a question about music in the Baldurs Gate 3 video game game product gang weed.

I know the game has a class called bards, this also means I may meet enemies that are of this class. My religion forbids me from listening to instrumental music does muting music in general result in also muting bards and their instruments or will I have to find and delete some gamefiles to adapt the game for my Faith?

Yes wow lol there is a mod for that exact thing right here on youtube.

Instrumental music removal mod.

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Poor bastard probably knew Jaheira wouldn't resurrect him.

Reminder that this, and 100 gold, is what it would have taken for Jaheira to resurrect Khalid.

 

[Maxie]

Poor bastard probably knew Jaheira wouldn't resurrect him.

Reminder that this and 100 gold are what it would have taken for Jaheira to resurrect Khalid.

bitch started rizzing me the moment we escaped the dungeon. what the fuck

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

bitched started rizzing me the moment we escaped the dungeon. what the fuck

Probably had her eye on you since the Friendly Arm.

 

[Goldschmidt]

Baldur's Gate 3 should take note from the LOTR trilogy where romance is kept to a bare minimum and the only couple that is showcased is Aragorn, soon-to-be-king of Arnor and Gondor with half-Elf 'noble maiden' Arwen. This was during a time when monocled men ruled the world and this set of high-standard values were later adopted by old-Disney. If Larian was deadset to include romance, they should have only featured romantic interest between Shadowheart and the main male player without suggestive sex scenes. Times do change (for the worse).

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

They want the bioware audience. I encourage pious men such as myself to not engage with any companions during the playthrough