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Drakortha

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- Objectively terrible cutscenes. The writing alone is enough to make anyone barf. Those face animations combined with the pretentious voice acting is just offensive to me, I can't watch it. It isn't even much improved from what we had in Dragon's Age: Origin. But the writing and the voice actors weren't being such tryhards in that game. I haven't seen a single character I would like from what I've seen. As soon as they start talking I'm put off by it. They should have kept the game isometric like DOS1/DOS2 at least so we could be spared this tryhard movie game bullshit.

- The marketing for the game is insulting to anyone with half a brain. As soon as a so called developer stands in front of a camera and gives a fake smile and pretends his game is ambitious and I should purchase and support it, I immediately don't want to play that cunts game.

- Controversy being their marketing strategy puts their game right to the bottom of the shit pile. They didn't have the talent to pull people in with a worthy sequel to Baldur's Gate that everyone is talking about how great it is and that it is a must play. NOPE. It's all about bears and gay sex and pronouns and shit. They chose controversy and shock value over a quality sequel.

- No day / night cycles or NPC schedules in a 2023 RPG that people have been anticipating for 20 years. This is made worse by the fact DOS1 and DOS2 both didn't have these systems in place, either, which only serves to make this feel more like DOS3 with a different coat of paint. Larian are lazy and didn't want to make the effort to do this game right. Disagree with me if you want, but I played both DOS games and they sucked, the 2nd game especially and BG3 looks like the same thing over again with cutscenes and more sexual themes added. This is the BG3 we get.
 
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Shaki

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One developer did try to make the purest and truest successor to Baldur's Gate and hardly anyone cared (Black Geyser). :M
I'm not going to play something that sounds like an interracial gay porn title. If developer couldn't even create a non idiotic name for a game, I have no hope for the rest of it.
 

POOPERSCOOPER

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I know most of Codex is hating on BG3 but I'm looking forward to it. Divinity Original Sin 2 surprised me with the numerous ways to solve things creatively and out of order, sure the combat and writing wasn't that great but I like their systematic design to RPGs.
 

Zeriel

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Is anyone else growing tired of video game marketing these days being so self centered around the devs behind the game?

Bethesda and now Larian. These clowns try so hard to be likeable in front of a camera. They think their like-ability will transfer into a great game experience. Somehow?..

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. Crunch or don't crunch. I don't give a fuck if you had to crunch for 6 months straight to do Day / Night cycles and NPC schedules and an immersive world I can engage with. Make it happen or fuck off with your gay pandering bullshit for easy sales and attention you QUEERS you're a disgrace..
A classic salesman's manipulation. Salesmanship is very evil because it uses your good nature against you. It's easy to be mean about a product, so they attach a token amount of friendly, likeable faces to it. If you're not a crazy person, it's going to be instinctually much more tough to be mean when you have the human element at play. I'm not simply writing rude remarks about an essentially worthless entertainment product, I'm harming these fine hardworking folks! Better make any criticisms I may have "constructive"

Doesn't help that devs are such self-centered fags they whine constantly about how "mean" any criticism is too.
 
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- Objectively terrible cutscenes. The writing alone is enough to make anyone barf. Those face animations combined with the pretentious voice acting is just offensive to me, I can't watch it. It isn't even much improved from what we had in Dragon's Age: Origin. But the writing and the voice actors weren't being such tryhards in that game. I haven't seen a single character I would like from what I've seen. As soon as they start talking I'm put off by it. They should have kept the game isometric like DOS1/DOS2 at least so we could be spared this tryhard movie game bullshit.

- The marketing for the game is insulting to anyone with half a brain. As soon as a so called developer stands in front of a camera and gives a fake smile and pretends his game is ambitious and I should purchase and support it, I immediately don't want to play that cunts game.

- Controversy being their marketing strategy puts their game right to the bottom of the shit pile. They didn't have the talent to pull people in with a worthy sequel to Baldur's Gate that everyone is talking about how great it is and that it is a must play. NOPE. It's all about bears and gay sex and pronouns and shit. They chose controversy and shock value over a quality sequel.

- No day / night cycles or NPC schedules in a 2023 RPG that people have been anticipating for 20 years. This is made worse by the fact DOS1 and DOS2 both didn't have these systems in place, either, which only serves to make this feel more like DOS3 with a different coat of paint. Larian are lazy and didn't want to make the effort to do this game right. Disagree with me if you want, but I played both DOS games and they sucked, the 2nd game especially and BG3 looks like the same thing over again with cutscenes and more sexual themes added. This is the BG3 we get.

Even if the game sucks there is little reason to be angry over it. There was nothing happening with the intellectual property (or with D&D in general) and games released in the 90s/early 2000s aren't affected by this sequel existing.

Besides, there's always a chance a bad game now can lead to good sequels or expansions later; BGII represented a substantial feature and content improvement over the first game, so the same might eventually prove true of this game. Perhaps they'll even add Day/Night.
 

Drakortha

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Even if the game sucks there is little reason to be angry over it. There was nothing happening with the intellectual property (or with D&D in general) and games released in the 90s/early 2000s aren't affected by this sequel existing.
There is plenty reason to be angry. They took the Baldur's Gate IP and used it to carry their atrocious contribution to cRPG's. I only care about Baldur's Gate here, and not D&D in general.

Video games are becoming like hollywood where there's no integrity in the name anymore and it's only dug out of it's grave so it can be used to bring fake prestige to what otherwise should be titled something like "Furry Assfuck Kingdom", which is a far more accurate title.
 
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Turn_BASED

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It’s going to be gay and I’m going to cringe but I’m also going to play it in the hopes of being pleasantly surprised.
 

MrBuzzKill

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Even if the game sucks there is little reason to be angry over it. There was nothing happening with the intellectual property (or with D&D in general) and games released in the 90s/early 2000s aren't affected by this sequel existing.
There is plenty reason to be angry. They took the Baldur's Gate IP and used it to carry their atrocious contribution to cRPG's. I only care about Baldur's Gate here, and not D&D in general. Video games are becoming like hollywood where there's no integrity in the name anymore and it's only dug out of it's grave so it can be used to bring fake prestige to what otherwise should be titled something "Furry Assfuck Kingdom", which is a far more accurate title.
What helped me personally is the realization that all these IPs (Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, VtM, etc) are commercial entities. They're not some pure holy beacons of RPG and gaming virtue, but instead vehicles of making money for people who funded them or bought them. Sure, they might've been originally created by a people passionate about RPGs, but it's also always been about money.

So, mentally detaching the IP/world (which are not necessarily pure and good things) from the games themselves (which are good) helped me personally be less butthurt about muh childhood nostalgia and feeling like it's being twisted into something unholy.

Also helped the realization that even if all stars were to align and even the original veterans devs were the ones who would make a BG3, I would probably still not like it. Not the same river, not the same men.

And at the end of the day we still have the old games, it's not like they're going anywhere. I'm currently doing a playthrough of BG1... not the "enhanced edition" though, 10 years was not enough to make me accept it :-D
 
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Even if the game sucks there is little reason to be angry over it. There was nothing happening with the intellectual property (or with D&D in general) and games released in the 90s/early 2000s aren't affected by this sequel existing.
There is plenty reason to be angry. They took the Baldur's Gate IP and used it to carry their atrocious contribution to cRPG's. I only care about Baldur's Gate here, and not D&D in general. Video games are becoming like hollywood where there's no integrity in the name anymore and it's only dug out of it's grave so it can be used to bring fake prestige to what otherwise should be titled something like "Furry Assfuck Kingdom", which is a far more accurate title.
Anger is an evolutionary response for living organisms that have been cornered and need to fight. The problem in this case is that the "being cornered" is an illusion because there isn't even a metaphorical corner, you can just ignore the product and not consume it and it doesn't influence any products you consumed and enjoyed in the past.

The concept of getting upset over the evolving aesthetics of an intellectual property has always been alien to me. Most remakes/reimaginings are bad, but there are no real stakes in whether they exist or not.
 
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Shaki

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Is Larian peak of degeneracy and decline? DOS2 you could have your male PC topped by a big red lizard, now in BG3 you can get spitroasted by a vampire and a bear. Add to this the worst art direction seen in gaming, their usual shitty writing and retarded controls, because the game was made for co-op instead of single player. Worst "RPG" game of the decade?
 

Ryzer

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Is Larian peak of degeneracy and decline? DOS2 you could have your male PC topped by a big red lizard, now in BG3 you can get spitroasted by a vampire and a bear. Add to this the worst art direction seen in gaming, their usual shitty writing and retarded controls, because the game was made for co-op instead of single player. Worst "RPG" game of the decade?
It can always be worse, like The Outer Worlds for example, you know the EPIC ADVENTURE by the creators of Fallout (tm).
 

Drakortha

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Is Larian peak of degeneracy and decline? DOS2 you could have your male PC topped by a big red lizard, now in BG3 you can get spitroasted by a vampire and a bear. Add to this the worst art direction seen in gaming, their usual shitty writing and retarded controls, because the game was made for co-op instead of single player. Worst "RPG" game of the decade?
It can always be worse, like The Outer Worlds for example, you know the EPIC ADVENTURE by the creators of Fallout (tm).
Tim Cain is a FAGGOT!
 

Shaki

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Is Larian peak of degeneracy and decline? DOS2 you could have your male PC topped by a big red lizard, now in BG3 you can get spitroasted by a vampire and a bear. Add to this the worst art direction seen in gaming, their usual shitty writing and retarded controls, because the game was made for co-op instead of single player. Worst "RPG" game of the decade?
It can always be worse, like The Outer Worlds for example, you know the EPIC ADVENTURE by the creators of Fallout (tm).
BG3 seems to have some decent gameplay elements, even if it's just a drop in an ocean of shit, while Outer Worlds in worthless in every single aspect, but at least it doesn't have gay animal sex, so idk which is worse overall. I think it might be a draw.
 

VonHoffenHeimer

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It affects me because nothing worthwhile is being made by studios with a good staff and decent budgets anymore. There fore there is an absence of good shit. People on here can be such a soyjack meme.
 

jaekl

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Angry ranting is fun and cathartic. The best thing about the internet is that you're unshackled from the need to be boring and reasonable like when speaking in the real world.
 

DeepOcean

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My biggest issue is not even with Larian itself but how pretty much the whole entertainment industry decided it should recycle the same old ips forever with diminishing quality instead of creating something new, Larian is only one of the retards on the retard bus.
 
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My biggest issue is not even with Larian itself but how pretty much the whole entertainment industry decided it should recycle the same old ips forever with diminishing quality instead of creating something new, Larian is only one of the retards on the retard bus.

In fairness, that's pretty much implicitly what human storytelling is like. Most cultures retold the same stories for centuries or even millennia and never got sick of them or thought they needed new stories. New stories are added, but it's a slow process.

It takes a relatively traumatic transformative event (like the Trojan War and the wider context of the Bronze Age Collapse) to spur people to create new stories en masse, the reason being that stories (art generally) function as a vehicle for a culture to spread and maintain its values. So they'll always tell the same stories (thus preserving themselves over time) until the traumatic transformative event of an era incites them to change.

An adjacent idea is that the vast majority of music sold was produced by retired or dead bands and musicians, not contemporary ones (which forms a very small part of the revenue of the music industry).

I agree it is boring though.
 
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Crescent Hawk

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God damn the art style is really horrendous, combined with the shit animations, I wont even bother. I would really have preferred another Divinity game. I am really serious, here, look people can for example really dislike Pillars, I hate a lot of stuff from Pilalrs but at least it looked clean and had great visual identity despite other issues.

BG3 just screams fucking gross and deviant art futa tieflings from every pore.
 

Pizzashoes

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These devs really have a blue haired girl with tattoos front and center on their pre-release marketing video with 431k views. And this game is going to sell like hotcakes. What is going on?
 

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