Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[TempleOfArcanumBloodlines]

Preorders, early accesses, kickstarters, stretchgoals, all this needs to die in purifying flames.

If all of that dies, you'll get no more games to play, you fucking antagonizing hipster cuck.

Fucking Grimoire had a funding campaign.

Did you choke reading my lines?


Dumbfuck... I swear...

Yeah... I can name a few good games that were Kickstarted or in Early Access (or both).

I get that it's seen as a bad practice, but it also gives opportunities the indie developers wouldn't otherwise have.

yeah there are plenty of shit early access titles but there's plenty of good ones and from a dev like Larian with their size/funding there's basically no chance it gets abandoned or left in early access for 5 years so should be fine

 

[Mud']

I'm happy with early access. I won't play it as I don't like to try out RPG's early and spoil stuff, I just play once it's done. However they'll get much more testing from loads of players at home than they would with internal testing, and you can see proper videos/reviews that aren't selectively edited by the developer before choosing to buy it on release. Plus if they've totally fucked up some mechanic or part of the game hopefully the outcry will be enough to make them change it

I kinda agree and disagree because this happen with D:OS2.

Act 1 in my opinion is pretty damn good and well balanced all around and that is the only act you could play in EA. Even with the retarded initiative system, loot system and armor system, you never truly felt how flawed it was in EA since it was low level shit.

Then you reach Act 2 and Act 3 and realize how fucked the whole mechanic of the game is, so i expect something similar with BG3, they will give you a small starter area, show you the basics and how much choices you can take and after that the balance goes out of the window and retarded shit starts happening.

 

[pomenitul]

But it's still us making it - it's not the original guys making it - so you will see what we think makes a good RPG, in 2019 and going forward.

Way to rub salt in the wound, Swen.

 

[Tacgnol]

Early Access is often good for game polish if applied appropriately (i.e. not just used as a quick cash grab for projects that never get completed).

Cyseal was pretty polished in OS due to the amount of testing it got from players, sadly that didn't extend to the non early access areas which were full of broken quests and bugs.

 

[*-*/\--/\~]

But it's still us making it - it's not the original guys making it - so you will see what we think makes a good RPG, in 2019 and going forward.

Way to rub salt in the wound, Swen.

Well, it is still the original me potentially playing it, so you're not getting my money in 2019 and going forward.

 

[GreyViper]

I mean this is Larian, so EA for them is normal. Also what I expect is the EE version that comes later after the original launch. So either way, I see myself getting it later with EE version.

 

[Saravan]

RPG Codex - Where bitter 30 year old virgins despair over modern games not fulfilling the gaming experiences they had when they were 15.

Excessive nostalgia is clinically defined as a mental disease, seek help.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

RPG Codex - Where bitter 30 year old virgins despair over modern games not fulfilling the gaming experiences they had when they were 15.

Excessive nostalgia is clinically defined as a mental disease, seek help.

It's current year™, so you have to accept whatever devs give you nowadays, eh?

 

[zerotol]

RPG Codex - Where bitter 30 year old virgins despair over modern games not fulfilling the gaming experiences they had when they were 15.

Excessive nostalgia is clinically defined as a mental disease, seek help.

well excuse me mr newfag i am only bitter and not a virgin (i think?)

 

[norolim]

RPG Codex - Where bitter 30 year old virgins despair over modern games not fulfilling the gaming experiences they had when they were 15.

Excessive nostalgia is clinically defined as a mental disease, seek help.

Joined: Jul 11, 2019

 

[Roguey]

Hasbro has seven - yes, seven - D&D games in development, and plans to release both Baldur's Gate 3 and Dark Alliance by the end of this year. The other D&D flavoured games will be released annually between now and 2025.

Larian's going to make the best one, unfortunately.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Hasbro has seven - yes, seven - D&D games in development, and plans to release both Baldur's Gate 3 and Dark Alliance by the end of this year. The other D&D flavoured games will be released annually between now and 2025.

Larian's going to make the best one, unfortunately.

And its going to be AAA Skyrim of DnD

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Reading a 30 year old basement dwelling virgin joke made me nostalgic just now. The whole incel term has taken such priority that it's always good to go back to one of the OG insults.

THE GOLD BOX era of insults.

 

[Reinhardt]

Hasbro has seven - yes, seven - D&D games in development, and plans to release both Baldur's Gate 3 and Dark Alliance by the end of this year. The other D&D flavoured games will be released annually between now and 2025.

Larian's going to make the best one, unfortunately.

And its going to be AAA Skyrim of DnD

AAA Dark Souls of Skyrim of DnD.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

During an investor event at the New York Toy Fair, Hasbro revealed that Baldur’s Gate 3 will release later this year on Steam Early Access.

I remember people saying sser should apply for the job at Larian so he can work on BG3 and me saying that BG3 is almost done, no writing is necessary, and incel cuckdexers rated me "retard" as they always do.

 

[Grotesque]

lol

leaked photo of BG3 thanks to belarusian
hackers

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Turuko]

with PoE icons?

 

[Sykar]

Weird, 3rd person or blobber?

 

[Alienman]

Another thing EA ruins is the aspect of everyone playing and discovering the game at the same time. To me a new release is a minor happening, especially if it's a RPG. With EA you already have people knowing the meta, the builds, what to do etc, and you miss out on that talk. It's kinda like coming late to party, you are all ready to go but most people are already tuckered out.

 

[Elex]

Another thing EA ruins is the aspect of everyone playing and discovering the game at the same time. To me a new release is a minor happening, especially if it's a RPG. With EA you already have people knowing the meta, the builds, what to do etc, and you miss out on that talk. It's kinda like coming late to party, you are all ready to go but most people are already tuckered out.

I can already tell you to make a paladin/sorcerer/hexblade for top DPS smite and tanking.


Wotc already use "early access" for the 5e, so it's natural that they allow larian doing the same for BG3.
https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/unearthed-arcana

 

[rusty_shackleford]

From Larian's perspective, they've had good experiences with Early Access - D:OS 1 & 2. So why shouldn't they continue?

I agree. But D:OS was imo more mechanically / gameplay driven than BG3 (muh story and characters) will be. Did anyone care about story spoilers for D:OS?

D:OS2 EA was only the starter island, I doubt BG3 will be different.
you guys cry about literally everything

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I kinda agree and disagree because this happen with D:OS2.

Act 1 in my opinion is pretty damn good and well balanced all around and that is the only act you could play in EA. Even with the retarded initiative system, loot system and armor system, you never truly felt how flawed it was in EA since it was low level shit.

Act 1 in release had a ton of different changes compared to EA. Large parts of the entire island were redesigned, including the entire area under the fort with the torturer guy(IIRC, this wasn't present at all in the EA — I remember being surprised when I stumbled upon it.) Tons of side quests were added. Basically just the general area of the island and the overall story stayed the same. I doubt they took feedback beyond bug reports.
Also, I don't believe the jail area was there at all either. Same with the arena area. Probably quite a few other areas I've forgotten by now.
edit: the ice dragon wasn't there, that area was completely redesigned, the boss woman-thing was made much harder

 

[Neerasrc]

It is impossible to logically produce TPS / FPS games in 3.5 years. (At AAA level 350 people are not enough) Because the game (bg3) is really big. We are not talking about a 15-hour experience. Developed with divinity 2 gambyro game engine. (TPS) Developed with divinity engine like bg3, dos2.

Guess: (straight logic) We will encounter a game with isometric (perhaps diablo 3-4 visual / animation quality) and AAA cinema dialogue scenes. There was a button in the settings section of Dos2 that zoomed the camera angle. (for dialogues) It could probably be an improved version as well. That's why detailed character modeling is important. Of course, these are estimates.

If you want have some fun. 4K captures:



Some crops:

Out first look at writing of BG3.

Most likely drawing concept art in Photoshop.

This looks like a level editor. You can see terrain "chunk" on bottom of the right monitor. This doesn't necessarily imply gameplay perspective imo.

UI? Journal?

All that finger bones, all that details. Yeah, this won't be isometric-only.

Seems like source code of the level editor, something related to tiling.


And this is the most interesting thing to me:

It seems like they've developed their own visual scripting system like Unreal's Blueprint. Actually you can see that they call theirs Blueprint too. Since this kind of system is mostly for high-level gameplay things, you can read interesting things on text... Few things I could make out and think relevant:

Turn_CurrentAngle
Climbing Systems
AreWeaponStowed
SpellLongDuration

 

[anvi]

RPG Codex - Where bitter 30 year old virgins despair over modern games not fulfilling the gaming experiences they had when they were 15.

Excessive nostalgia is clinically defined as a mental disease, seek help.

30 year olds?! Baldurs Gate was released 22 years ago. I doubt many 8 year olds played it.

 

[DalekFlay]

Guess: (straight logic) We will encounter a game with isometric (perhaps diablo 3-4 visual / animation quality) and AAA cinema dialogue scenes. There was a button in the settings section of Dos2 that zoomed the camera angle. (for dialogues) It could probably be an improved version as well. That's why detailed character modeling is important. Of course, these are estimates.

If you're gonna make the environments/models good enough for zoomed in cutscenes and cinematics, why wouldn't they be good enough to walk around exploring in third-person? I guess you could say "they can limit what gets that kind of detail," but I think that would create a graphics disparity in general.