Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[fantadomat]

It looks worst than Black Gayxer lol. I expected nothing good out of this shit,yet i ended disappointed by the low quality and the retarded dialogue. I was expecting some third person RTwP like DAO,but this is even worst. It looks so fucking generic that when i first saw the screenshoots i took it for 5 different rpgs. There is nothing that screams BG at you,absolutely nothing recognizable. And that retarded writing,oh gods,it is so fucking painful. It is like reading the fanfic journal of an autistic serial killer. Just fucking let me read the shit my protag is going to say!

 

[Sigourn]

Looks like shit, Divinity Original Sin 2: Baldur's Gate Edition.

How can they fuck up the looks of a game so easily is beyond my comprehension when Obsidian got it right on their first try.

 

[frajaq]

can the RTwP bastards go back to playing SCS BG1/2 and leave us alone already

 

[Dux]

I kind of expected this. In fact, I don't even know what else I COULD expect. A sequel that at least honours the previous games in terms of visual presentation - to make the experience somewhat seamless? A game that doesn't look like a Original Sin spin-off? You'd think a sequel to arguably the most venerated CRPG franchise of all time would at least deserve that consideration.

 

[LESS T_T]

Big room to fill:

 

[deuxhero]

Honestly, the first thing I think of when seeing the dialog formatted that way was is there's a framing device of the story being relayed to someone after the fact.

 

[fantadomat]

can the RTwP bastards go back to playing SCS BG1/2 and leave us alone already

If you don't like those games,the fuck are you doing here parasite?!

 

[Reinhardt]

I didn't even know BG was doing the fake swinging shit until a decade or so after I played it when I read about it in an interview or something.

Of course. That's why you like rtwp so much - paying attention is for fags.

 

[Desolate Dancer]

Not sure why some people prefer RTwP. RTwP has always been seen as a grudging concession to the wider market and the nexus of playability vs design, not superior in it's own right. It's like how some people actually prefer the taste of Diet Coke.

And penicillin was invented during a disgusting accident... RTwP turned out to be great, even if it emerged first due to a technical necessity, yet ended up a best of both worlds scenario. Some believe that TB and RTwP is an either or scenario, yet it is anything but. Both has upsides and downsides and yes, it is very much depending on the individual game and platform (since we have multiple platforms today) and subjective preference ofc. RTwP in an IE game had the benefit of:
- you could steamroll filler combat, combat that would have taken much longer in TB (inb4 "don't make filler combat"... yeah, and stop all wars, and let us all live in peace too... right)
- since all actors' action were going on about concurrently, it created a great deal of emergent complexity, something that a TB obviously lacks (inb4 TB can be just as complex: well yes, it is complex, but not in that respect, it is also much more predictable and invariable with the same amount of input factors)
- it creates a much higher degree of narrative immersion, since you see no hexes/grids, and the gameplay's flow doesn't abruptly bumps as in a TB combat (which again, can be okay, and can be annoying depending on preference and game type)
- oftentimes we forget this too, but a TB game is inherently more abstract and mathematical... in IE game you didn't precisely knew the AoE of a Cone of Cold or Lightning Bolt spell and yes, it created a much different sense of achievement when you guessed it right, or when you fucked it up hilariously (and that's why I fucking hated everything since ToEE, but also PoE... I don't want to see the precise fucking radius and cone of every spell, spells should be mystical, not mathematical like a rocket launcher)

So again, it's not an either or scenario... I'm totally fine with TB games, especially board games, or card games on ipad when I'm shitting on the toilet...

 

[GhostCow]

Of course. That's why you like rtwp so much - paying attention is for fags.

Not everyone is obsessed with number crunching. Some people just like to play the game. Hard for an autist to understand, I know

 

[Reinhardt]

RTwP turned out to be great

 

[Oreshnik Missile]

Visuals - dogshit
Writing - dogshit
Plot - guaranteed dogshit
UI - dogshit
Music - inevitably dogshit
Character advancement - probably dogshit
Itemisation - probably dogshit
Exploration/Setting - I foresee that it's dogshit
Combat - probably good, but who cares when it has nothing supporting it?

It's dogshit. And why are we even talking about it, just because some corporate IP vampires managed to shell out some dosh to plaster Baldur's Gate on their gayme? Dogshit.

 

[Delterius]

Honestly, the first thing I think of when seeing the dialog formatted that way was is there's a framing device of the story being relayed to someone after the fact.

the protagonist is secretly a wizard's eye

 

[Reinhardt]

Some people just like to play the game.

You mean "just like to watch game playing itself"?

 

[HoboForEternity]

Big room to fill:

Looks like perfect place for corona chan to mingle

 

[frajaq]

can the RTwP bastards go back to playing SCS BG1/2 and leave us alone already

If you don't like those games,the fuck are you doing here parasite?!

to talk about the actual good games

 

[fantadomat]

Combat - probably good, but who cares when it has nothing supporting it?

 

[Theodora]

Seemed like a given this was going to be TB considering Larian made two well-received TB RPGs already.

Not sure why some people prefer RTwP. RTwP has always been seen as a grudging concession to the wider market and the nexus of playability vs design, not superior in it's own right. It's like how some people actually prefer the taste of Diet Coke.

Strange times we live in.

I've never seen such a perfect comparison.

Big room to fill:

Sounds like they're about the only ones who didn't pull out.

 

[Lady_Error]

Sounds like they're about the only ones who didn't pull out.

Inb4 Swen in Hazmat armor...

 

[Mazisky]

Am I the only one who's perfectly fine with both Rtwp and Tb? i like them in a different way.

 

[Drowed]

The ironic thing is that you would think that the Codex, of all places, would understand the importance of a name. Of being part of a franchise.

I mean, I like Larian's games. I liked Original Sin 1 and 2, both, and I even played them more than once. (And I bet I will even play again in some years.) I think turn games are better, by definition, than RTWP games (assuming the same level of effort was used in both). I like the visual style of Larian's games, and I don't think Baldur's Gate is a particularly amazing series - to be honest, I find it a bit boring. I never finished Throne of Bhaal because of it.

That said, the name of the game is Baldur's Gate 3. So it's completely, totally, fully understandable the disappointment of all the people here (and everywhere) who are watching the series turn into something different than what it once was. I mean, I probably will like this game more than I would like a real successor to the series, but I completely respect the anger and frustration that I'm seeing here. It's totally legitimate.

And to be honest I'm even surprised, I actually believed Larian would really go for a third-person game this time with action elements, despite its recent game history. So, in a way, the end result is "less bad" than what it could have been, right? Not that it's any consolation, but still. To be honest I'll probably buy and enjoy the game. But for everyone disappointed here, you have my support.

 

[Lady_Error]

It is also possible that the past-tense dialogues are only from the prologue and the main game has normal present tense. Seems unlikely though.

 

[Reinhardt]

Am I the only one who's perfectly fine with both Rtwp and Tb? i like them in a different way.

 

[Jimmious]

And to be honest I'm even surprised, I actually believed Larian would really go for a third-person game this time with action elements, despite its recent game history. So, in a way, the end result is "less bad" than what it could have been, right? Not that it's any consolation, but still. To be honest I'll probably buy and enjoy the game. But for everyone disappointed here, you have my support.

I'm fine with people being disappointed if they wanted a game completely similar to the first BGs, as in RTwP etc
What I don't get is why third-person with action for example would be better than a pure TB CRPG, which is the "authoritative" way to play CRPGs.

 

[vortex]

Am I the only one who's perfectly fine with both Rtwp and Tb? i like them in a different way.

I'm fine with both.
But, I want they use only one. I would have liked more RTwP in BG3 though.