Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lyric Suite]

The obsession to make every character gay/bi/whatever the latest social trend is equally bad as the obsession to make every character straight.

Ha yes, the obsession to make everything normal and wholesome instead of shoving in as much deviant shit as you can.

You know what they said about not being so open minded that you let your brain fall out of your skull altogether, and this is where we are at now with SJWs.

Besides, why stop at gays? That's old hat now. Larian should seriously consider some transgender incloosion.

If you think about it, Baldur's Gate already had that with Edwin(a).

I don't think they intended it that way.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

2 all u naysayers, larien has proven track record look at DoS2 best rope playing video game according 2 ign n gamestop, you will all be sendin apology emails to swen when bg3 comes out

 

[rusty_shackleford]

The obsession to make every character gay/bi/whatever the latest social trend is equally bad as the obsession to make every character straight.

Ha yes, the obsession to make everything normal and wholesome instead of shoving in as much deviant shit as you can.

You know what they said about not being so open minded that you let your brain fall out of your skull altogether, and this is where we are at now with SJWs.

Besides, why stop at gays? That's old hat now. Larian should seriously consider some transgender incloosion.

If you think about it, Baldur's Gate already had that with Edwin(a).

I don't think they intended it that way.

you can take him to a brothel to fuck a male escort

 

[Lyric Suite]

Forgotten Realms don't really have a strong aesthetic personality as a whole, you must choose which region you want to concentrate on and adapt the artstyle to fit that. It would be very easy to do something unique for Thay for example, but Baldur's Gate the city is as generic medieval as it gets, you have to concentrate on motifs and color schemes maybe.

I like the artwork of BG 1 and 2 in particular, Baldurs Gate isnt over the top fantasy and more late medieval style with fantasy touches, this is good to make things relatable. It had slightly desaturated colours and an earthy tone on the colors that with the Ui that many times resembled old paper and stone, those things made you feel you are dealing with an down to earth world and made the fantasy elements stand out more. The interesting thing is that this style made even fantasy looking buildings look realistic and avoided that dreaded Disneyland look that many fantasy works have. The dude that chosen the art style for BG 1 and 2 knew what he was doing.

Indeed, and that's what many of us want, instead of this mobile Disneyland fantasy shit all games are going for this days.

 

[Crispy's Boyfriend]

The whole "Adversary" angle seems a bit too obvious, though on the other hand I suppose not many people interested in the game know much about Forgotten Realms lore, especially concerning a topic as marginal as mind flayers.

 

[FranticDistortion]

add vampire to game
give him plot thing that removes all vampiric about him (except emo dialogue)

super design

If we are on the quest to remove the plot device, then I expect Vampire Spawn players to have to face the drawbacks of playing as one.

In before you learn to "control" it and use it for even more superpowers mid-game.

I already said this. I'm betting money and a pizza party that the PC in this game is going to be the Adversary, or some kind of play on it:

"When an illithid undergoes ceremorphosis, it can occasionally take on some elements of the absorbed host creature's former mind, such as mannerisms. This typically manifests as a minor personality feature, such as a nervous habit and/or reaction (e.g., nail-biting or tapping one's foot), although the process that determines the type and number of traits so inherited appears to be stochastic. An adult illithid has even been known to hum a tune that its host knew in life. Usually, when a mind flayer inherits a trait like this, it keeps it a closely guarded secret, because, were its peers to learn of it, the illithid in question would most likely be killed. This is due to an illithid legend of a being called the Adversary. The legend holds that, eventually, an illithid larva that undergoes ceremorphosis will take on the host's personality and memory in its entirety. This "Adversary" would, mind and soul, still be the host, but with all the inherent abilities of an illithid."

Reddit thread (yes I fucking know) on people using this for their campaigns: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/2q1g7y/has_anyone_run_a_campaign_using_the_mindflayer/

This will be a way to give the PC psionic powers, allow them to get away with keeping their personality and memories, etc.

It might be that the Illithid that infected heroes is the adversary (he killed all his brethren on the ship), not PC.

 

[Lyric Suite]

The obsession to make every character gay/bi/whatever the latest social trend is equally bad as the obsession to make every character straight.

Ha yes, the obsession to make everything normal and wholesome instead of shoving in as much deviant shit as you can.

You know what they said about not being so open minded that you let your brain fall out of your skull altogether, and this is where we are at now with SJWs.

Besides, why stop at gays? That's old hat now. Larian should seriously consider some transgender incloosion.

If you think about it, Baldur's Gate already had that with Edwin(a).

I don't think they intended it that way.

you can take him to a brothel to fuck a male escort

I... don't remember that. I the whole think was a joke to piss of Edwin given his gargantuan ego i never knew they took it that far.

 

[RangerOne]

DO IT, SWEN. FUCKING DO IT MAN!

I doubt they will do it. A larger party size would lead to larger encounters, consequently combat would take much longer to finish.

 

[Riddler]

I've been reading very contrasting opinions when it comes to the size of the old games' fanbase. On one hand, there are those who claim they are a significant chunk of potential buyers, and possibly alienating them is not the best idea. On the other, I've read several opinion pieces arguing that they are a small, very vocal minority, and Larian Studios is making the correct choice in changing up the formula to fit a more modern audience.

Why not both? I imagine that both groups are fairly large. I don't really think Larian needs the BG fans, divinity+d&d is probably sufficient to generate enough interest.

 

[Spectacle]

add vampire to game
give him plot thing that removes all vampiric about him (except emo dialogue)

super design

If we are on the quest to remove the plot device, then I expect Vampire Spawn players to have to face the drawbacks of playing as one.

In before you learn to "control" it and use it for even more superpowers mid-game.

I already said this. I'm betting money and a pizza party that the PC in this game is going to be the Adversary, or some kind of play on it:

"When an illithid undergoes ceremorphosis, it can occasionally take on some elements of the absorbed host creature's former mind, such as mannerisms. This typically manifests as a minor personality feature, such as a nervous habit and/or reaction (e.g., nail-biting or tapping one's foot), although the process that determines the type and number of traits so inherited appears to be stochastic. An adult illithid has even been known to hum a tune that its host knew in life. Usually, when a mind flayer inherits a trait like this, it keeps it a closely guarded secret, because, were its peers to learn of it, the illithid in question would most likely be killed. This is due to an illithid legend of a being called the Adversary. The legend holds that, eventually, an illithid larva that undergoes ceremorphosis will take on the host's personality and memory in its entirety. This "Adversary" would, mind and soul, still be the host, but with all the inherent abilities of an illithid."

Reddit thread (yes I fucking know) on people using this for their campaigns: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/2q1g7y/has_anyone_run_a_campaign_using_the_mindflayer/

This will be a way to give the PC psionic powers, allow them to get away with keeping their personality and memories, etc.

I suspect that the Adversary is actually the mind flayer piloting the nautiloid in the intro sequence. He's infected the PC and the rest of the party with specially bred tadpoles that gives them superpowers instead of turning them into mind flayers, to advance his inscrutable agenda.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

add vampire to game
give him plot thing that removes all vampiric about him (except emo dialogue)

super design

If we are on the quest to remove the plot device, then I expect Vampire Spawn players to have to face the drawbacks of playing as one.

In before you learn to "control" it and use it for even more superpowers mid-game.

I already said this. I'm betting money and a pizza party that the PC in this game is going to be the Adversary, or some kind of play on it:

"When an illithid undergoes ceremorphosis, it can occasionally take on some elements of the absorbed host creature's former mind, such as mannerisms. This typically manifests as a minor personality feature, such as a nervous habit and/or reaction (e.g., nail-biting or tapping one's foot), although the process that determines the type and number of traits so inherited appears to be stochastic. An adult illithid has even been known to hum a tune that its host knew in life. Usually, when a mind flayer inherits a trait like this, it keeps it a closely guarded secret, because, were its peers to learn of it, the illithid in question would most likely be killed. This is due to an illithid legend of a being called the Adversary. The legend holds that, eventually, an illithid larva that undergoes ceremorphosis will take on the host's personality and memory in its entirety. This "Adversary" would, mind and soul, still be the host, but with all the inherent abilities of an illithid."

Reddit thread (yes I fucking know) on people using this for their campaigns: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/2q1g7y/has_anyone_run_a_campaign_using_the_mindflayer/

This will be a way to give the PC psionic powers, allow them to get away with keeping their personality and memories, etc.

I suspect that the Adversary is actually the mind flayer piloting the nautiloid in the intro sequence. He's infected the PC and the rest of the party with specially bred tadpoles that gives them superpowers instead of turning them into mind flayers, to advance his inscrutable agenda.

Plot twist. He is the Bhaalspawn who becomes the Adversary due to his powers. His real name : Abdel Adrian.

 

[DalekFlay]

Yeah imaging people bringing their nostalgia about Baldur's Gate in a game called Baldur's Gate 3. Totally unreasonable.

People can have as much nostalgia as they want. Lord knows I'm filled with nostalgia for tons of stuff. Difference is, I don't judge my newer games based on nostalgia for the older ones. The only thing that matters, at all, is how much I enjoy BG3 as its own game. The fact this is a divisive opinion is example 1,562 of humanity's tendency toward retardation.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I've been reading very contrasting opinions when it comes to the size of the old games' fanbase. On one hand, there are those who claim they are a significant chunk of potential buyers, and possibly alienating them is not the best idea. On the other, I've read several opinion pieces arguing that they are a small, very vocal minority, and Larian Studios is making the correct choice in changing up the formula to fit a more modern audience.

They're going to play it either way.
They'll pretend they won't, they'll lie and say they never played it, but we all know they're going to play it the very first day it releases.

 

[Crispy's Boyfriend]

add vampire to game
give him plot thing that removes all vampiric about him (except emo dialogue)

super design

If we are on the quest to remove the plot device, then I expect Vampire Spawn players to have to face the drawbacks of playing as one.

In before you learn to "control" it and use it for even more superpowers mid-game.

I already said this. I'm betting money and a pizza party that the PC in this game is going to be the Adversary, or some kind of play on it:

"When an illithid undergoes ceremorphosis, it can occasionally take on some elements of the absorbed host creature's former mind, such as mannerisms. This typically manifests as a minor personality feature, such as a nervous habit and/or reaction (e.g., nail-biting or tapping one's foot), although the process that determines the type and number of traits so inherited appears to be stochastic. An adult illithid has even been known to hum a tune that its host knew in life. Usually, when a mind flayer inherits a trait like this, it keeps it a closely guarded secret, because, were its peers to learn of it, the illithid in question would most likely be killed. This is due to an illithid legend of a being called the Adversary. The legend holds that, eventually, an illithid larva that undergoes ceremorphosis will take on the host's personality and memory in its entirety. This "Adversary" would, mind and soul, still be the host, but with all the inherent abilities of an illithid."

Reddit thread (yes I fucking know) on people using this for their campaigns: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/2q1g7y/has_anyone_run_a_campaign_using_the_mindflayer/

This will be a way to give the PC psionic powers, allow them to get away with keeping their personality and memories, etc.

I suspect that the Adversary is actually the mind flayer piloting the nautiloid in the intro sequence. He's infected the PC and the rest of the party with specially bred tadpoles that gives them superpowers instead of turning them into mind flayers, to advance his inscrutable agenda.

Sounds interesting, but in the cinematic intro we see bodies of other mind flayers in the chamber. If anything, it looks more as if he broke onto the vessel.

 

[FranticDistortion]

If that mindflayer actually turns out to be Adversary, that closes all of the trailer's lore holes that people bitched about in this thread.

 

[jackofshadows]

that's because modern romance npcs are made by chads for whom the world works that way, the only people that find this unusual are borderline incels who don't know what it's like to experience the world as an attractive person

You're too quick to facepalm/shit this post, guys, it's not without a grain of truth, actually, even if it was an irony (some people tend to fuck each other very quickly). Which doesn't dismiss a huge point above about resources and doesn't override the fact that making every companion to be bangable regardless of her/his gender is beyond ridiculous (unless it's a porn game).

I've been reading very contrasting opinions when it comes to the size of the old games' fanbase. On one hand, there are those who claim they are a significant chunk of potential buyers, and possibly alienating them is not the best idea. On the other, I've read several opinion pieces arguing that they are a small, very vocal minority, and Larian Studios is making the correct choice in changing up the formula to fit a more modern audience.

Thing is, the size actually didn't matter (in this case). Here their producer explains it, and I think he's fairly honest.

"It was never really a question," Design Producer David Walgrave says. "We've been doing turn-based for a while now. We're pretty good at it. Dungeons & Dragons is turn-based in itself, so it makes a lot of sense. Even after we implemented the Dungeons & Dragons ruleset, the result was so different from what we concocted with Divinity: Original Sin that we saw that the combat designers would have to do it completely different, so that was a challenge. And we're doing things that we haven't done before, so for us it was the best choice."

There's nothing limiting the engine to 4 party members. Plenty of user-made modules use more, and there's mods to enable more in the base game.

But what about simultaneous session by 6 people, is it easily possible as well?

 

[Black]

But can I join tentacle bros?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

But what about simultanous session by 6 people, is it easily possible as well?

yes
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1147333888

 

[FranticDistortion]

If that mindflayer actually turns out to be Adversary, that closes all of the trailer's lore holes that people bitched about in this thread.

Codex keeps cutting words out entirely if you try to correct more than one letter mid-word on mobile. Very annoying.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

If that mindflayer actually turns out to be Adversary, that closes all of the trailer's lore holes that people bitched about in this thread.

Codex keeps cutting words out entirely if you try to correct more than one letter mid-word on mobile. Very annoying.

I have the same issue when I use this site on mobile

 

[rusty_shackleford]

add vampire to game
give him plot thing that removes all vampiric about him (except emo dialogue)

super design

If we are on the quest to remove the plot device, then I expect Vampire Spawn players to have to face the drawbacks of playing as one.

In before you learn to "control" it and use it for even more superpowers mid-game.

I already said this. I'm betting money and a pizza party that the PC in this game is going to be the Adversary, or some kind of play on it:

"When an illithid undergoes ceremorphosis, it can occasionally take on some elements of the absorbed host creature's former mind, such as mannerisms. This typically manifests as a minor personality feature, such as a nervous habit and/or reaction (e.g., nail-biting or tapping one's foot), although the process that determines the type and number of traits so inherited appears to be stochastic. An adult illithid has even been known to hum a tune that its host knew in life. Usually, when a mind flayer inherits a trait like this, it keeps it a closely guarded secret, because, were its peers to learn of it, the illithid in question would most likely be killed. This is due to an illithid legend of a being called the Adversary. The legend holds that, eventually, an illithid larva that undergoes ceremorphosis will take on the host's personality and memory in its entirety. This "Adversary" would, mind and soul, still be the host, but with all the inherent abilities of an illithid."

Reddit thread (yes I fucking know) on people using this for their campaigns: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/2q1g7y/has_anyone_run_a_campaign_using_the_mindflayer/

This will be a way to give the PC psionic powers, allow them to get away with keeping their personality and memories, etc.

The Adversary is an already existing character though — Strom Wakeman. He's the canon character that wrote The Illithiad, he spread the rumor of The Adversary to make the mindflayers paranoid.

 

[Thal]

"It's early alpha, it'll be fixed by beta."

"It's closed beta, it'll be fixed by open beta."

"It's open beta, it'll be fixed by release."

"It's release, it'll be fixed in a few patches."

"It's a few patches, it'll be fixed in the enhanced edition."

"It's enhanced edition, it'll never be fixed."

"Mods will fix it."

 

[Saravan]

The obsession to make every character gay/bi/whatever the latest social trend is equally bad as the obsession to make every character straight.

Ha yes, the obsession to make everything normal and wholesome instead of shoving in as much deviant shit as you can.

You know what they said about not being so open minded that you let your brain fall out of your skull altogether, and this is where we are at now with SJWs.

Besides, why stop at gays? That's old hat now. Larian should seriously consider some transgender incloosion.

It appears the massive butthurt and the fear of gays are correlated.

 

[vortex]

I was in denial phase. Now I'm in depression phase. BG3 is not RTwP.

 

[Ontopoly]

I've been reading very contrasting opinions when it comes to the size of the old games' fanbase. On one hand, there are those who claim they are a significant chunk of potential buyers, and possibly alienating them is not the best idea. On the other, I've read several opinion pieces arguing that they are a small, very vocal minority, and Larian Studios is making the correct choice in changing up the formula to fit a more modern audience.

The majority of buyers of any game are casuals. Most gamers don't go on forums like everyone here does, maybe they'll go on Reddit but even that is still a minority. It's always more profitable to appeal to casuals. These are people that don't care a ton about learning the mechanics or even what the mechanics are behind the scenes. So what you've heard is true, most of their buyers won't care or even know there's something to care about. If advertising is good they'll see a game that looks interesting from pr releases or metacritic and buy it. The only thing hardcore gamers are good for is posting guides and builds and helping the casuals when they go online to seek help. On this forum I see the same 20 people posting while their game will sell multiple millions. Their numbers won't be affected, gamers just don't care.

Don't get me wrong. This game will still be decline but that's not what effects sales.