Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Dodo1610]

I shudder to imagine what that playerbase must look like right now. Pot-bellied balding men and unhealthy looking women with piercing marks and sagging tats, hair probably all burned from the constant dying in various colors, desperate attempts to attract attention while pretending they don't want it. PS, no offence Volourn.

Gaider was too timid to go full flaming homo as early as 2000.

Don't underestimate Gaider and the rest of Bioware they managed to include the first lesbian woman into star wars only 3 years later.

 

[retinoid]

2 all u naysayers, larien has proven track record look at DoS2 best rope playing video game according 2 ign n gamestop, you will all be sendin apology emails to swen when bg3 comes out

 

[Harry Easter]

Forgotten Realms don't really have a strong aesthetic personality as a whole, you must choose which region you want to concentrate on and adapt the artstyle to fit that. It would be very easy to do something unique for Thay for example, but Baldur's Gate the city is as generic medieval as it gets, you have to concentrate on motifs and color schemes maybe.

Dunno, I read the new modules (Murder in Baldur's Gate and... Descent into Avernus, was it?) and I got more of a late medieval early Renaissance feel for the world, which is kinda refreshing. But to be fair, I will always have a softspot for Baldur's Gate.

I saw the gameplay reveal at thursday and personally I'm happy. I would have really been surprised, if they would have changed much from a system that work out for them and is closer to a Pen&Paper-experience than the old BG's. And now we have to wait until, dunno, christmas 2021? Oh well, at least I can replay the old games again, to get me into the mood.

 

[Curratum]

Swen said EAccess in a few months, probably mid-summer (?), don't expect the full release anytime before holiday season 2021.

 

[Harry Easter]

Swen said EAccess in a few months, probably mid-summer (?), don't expect the full release anytime before holiday season 2021.

Yes, I meant that too. Typo, sorry.

 

[NJClaw]

Which classes will make it as the last 2? They said 8 classes and 15 races, and 6 had been announced already. 7th is paladin obviously, but 8th Is a toss between druid, bard, sorcerer and monk. Hope it's not sorcerer.

When did they say they'd limit it to 8 classes? That would be major decline.

It was in an official image posted one hundred thousand pages ago. But it's still open for debate, since various sites say that the game will have all 12 core classes.

 

[Thonius]

Gaider was too timid to go full flaming homo as early as 2000.

Even as late as 2007, Atari/Hasbro/WotC? refused to let Avellone write Gann as bisexual. Troika snuck in Bertram in ToEE by fooling them with a second heterosexual Bertram.

Pozed staff trying to do self insert character. What a shocker.

 

[holla_cabezas_de_mierda]

I only have high hopes for the gameplay and exploration, the writing is obviously made-up on the spot and going to be Tumblr-tier. I also rewatched some parts of the gameplay video right now and I think people are jumping to conclusions about the vampire being gay. He says he tried to seduce the noble to bring him to his master, you don't need to be gay to do that.

God forbid the character is gay might make codexers uncomfortable.

the issue is they are all gay

It's not even clear at this point whether Astarion is gay as his reference to that man was in the context of luring a victim to drink blood.

Regardless however there are far more interesting parameters to judge character writing besides sexuality but of course if you are a raging neckbeard you might be afraid to catch the gays if you are playing a video game in close proximity to a fictional one.

yes there are, which is why making every character maybe gay, maybe not, is just getting played out and predictable- its not even risky anymore, its actually the safer move which is why they do it....

They also do it so that maybe fagots can pretend to maybe fuck some other character if they maybe meet them when they role play. They want to leave all options open, god forbid, somebody was a particular sexual preference. I grew up in san Francisco, caught the bus everyday day for school at castro and market for years and years. There is nothing I am going to learn or be afraid of about fagots from pretend fagots in a video game. Its just fucking tiresome is all.

I never said that shoehorning a character being gay, just for the sake of it, is good character writing. At the same time if a character happens to be so is not however in of itself indicitative of poor writing.

Far more important is the character's motives, personality and his overall place in the story presented.

The obsession to make every character gay/bi/whatever the latest social trend is equally bad as the obsession to make every character straight.

Claiming all characters are or will be is just unfounded hyperbole, you have nothing besides your sweaty fedora to prove that at this juncture.

In essence you are just a different kind of SJW but an SJW nonetheless.

yes, its all the same. Moral equivalence, the drum beat of our lives. Defending yourself is the same as attacking. The person being raped is as guilty as the raper. After all, its all violence. Its all the same thing. Violence is violence, 2=2, its all equivalent.
Only nazis and fascists try and use language to justify and rank violence.... or even to try and celebrate it...but its all the same thing, and its all bad.

That is how it works. If you notice culture at all...BOOM! SJW. 2=2. BAM.

 

[Hamster]

Guys, i think i'm okay now. A few days have passed and my butthurt has abated, i am ready to embrace glorious turn-based incline. I mean, AAA turn-based RPG in 2020, who could have thought!

 

[Decado]

DO IT, SWEN. FUCKING DO IT MAN!

I want to like this game. I want to to want to buy. Make me want to buy it. Make a shameless fucking appeal to me based on a game that came out 20 years ago, I don't fucking care. DO IT.

 

[Lyric Suite]

The obsession to make every character gay/bi/whatever the latest social trend is equally bad as the obsession to make every character straight.

Ha yes, the obsession to make everything normal and wholesome instead of shoving in as much deviant shit as you can.

You know what they said about not being so open minded that you let your brain fall out of your skull altogether, and this is where we are at now with SJWs.

Besides, why stop at gays? That's old hat now. Larian should seriously consider some transgender incloosion.

 

[Haplo]

DO IT, SWEN. FUCKING DO IT MAN!

I want to like this game. I want to to want to buy. Make me want to buy it. Make a shameless fucking appeal to me based on a game that came out 20 years ago, I don't fucking care. DO IT.

4 party members? Isn't it the same as D:OS? ...what a strange coincidence...

 

[Crispy's Boyfriend]

I've been reading very contrasting opinions when it comes to the size of the old games' fanbase. On one hand, there are those who claim they are a significant chunk of potential buyers, and possibly alienating them is not the best idea. On the other, I've read several opinion pieces arguing that they are a small, very vocal minority, and Larian Studios is making the correct choice in changing up the formula to fit a more modern audience.

 

[Lyric Suite]

there is nothing wrong with bangable companions

don't like it, don't have make believe sex with them

simples

Ha yes, the lolbertarian position. Don't like that little tranny kids are performing in front of crowds of adults? Don't watch it!

 

[Lyric Suite]

State of the medium:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/baldurs-gate-3/sex

They are going for the female demographic which traditionally is Bioware's audience.

You mean the vocal minority that grafted itself into the community to ruin it with their estrogen laden shit.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Classic

The pro-RtwP editorial is basically just a nostalgia jack-off for the originals, like half the posts in this thread.

Yeah imaging people bringing their nostalgia about Baldur's Gate in a game called Baldur's Gate 3. Totally unreasonable.

 

[Lyric Suite]

BTW, on the question of Forgotten Realms. Can anybody explain to me what's wrong with "standard" medieval fantasy? What, not grimdark enough for you try hard kiddies?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

BTW, on the question of Forgotten Realms. Can anybody explain to me what's wrong with "standard" medieval fantasy? What, not grimdark enough for you try hard kiddies?

Pretty much.

That being said, I'd take old BioWare's innocence over its current counterpart's and Larian's poz any day.

 

[FranticDistortion]

The obsession to make every character gay/bi/whatever the latest social trend is equally bad as the obsession to make every character straight.

Ha yes, the obsession to make everything normal and wholesome instead of shoving in as much deviant shit as you can.

You know what they said about not being so open minded that you let your brain fall out of your skull altogether, and this is where we are at now with SJWs.

Besides, why stop at gays? That's old hat now. Larian should seriously consider some transgender incloosion.

If you think about it, Baldur's Gate already had that with Edwin(a).

 

[Harry Easter]

I've been reading very contrasting opinions when it comes to the size of the old games' fanbase. On one hand, there are those who claim they are a significant chunk of potential buyers, and possibly alienating them is not the best idea. On the other, I've read several opinion pieces arguing that they are a small, very vocal minority, and Larian Studios is making the correct choice in changing up the formula to fit a more modern audience.

Yeah. I mean, who besides journalist and us old hardcorefarts remember the series? Like, really remembers it and hasn't just heard of it. I don't think the fanbase is really that big (most of the old fans might have no time/interest in the games anymore or have choked on their hatred for the new world), but the idea of the name has still some power. But most of Larians fans might just loved D:OS 1 and 2 and buy the game, because they got more of their favorite games, but even bigger and more cutscenes.

 

[Crispy's Boyfriend]

State of the medium:
https://www.pcgamesn.com/baldurs-gate-3/sex

They are going for the female demographic which traditionally is Bioware's audience.

You mean the vocal minority that grafted itself into the community to ruin it with their estrogen laden shit.

To the point that BioWare completely shut down their own forums. And we're talking about a company who still produces AAA games. This is unprecedented, I think.

 

[Dramart]

I've been reading very contrasting opinions when it comes to the size of the old games' fanbase. On one hand, there are those who claim they are a significant chunk of potential buyers, and possibly alienating them is not the best idea. On the other, I've read several opinion pieces arguing that they are a small, very vocal minority, and Larian Studios is making the correct choice in changing up the formula to fit a more modern audience.

Joined: Yesterday. Choose carefully your future words. I'll be watching you.

 

[DeepOcean]

Forgotten Realms don't really have a strong aesthetic personality as a whole, you must choose which region you want to concentrate on and adapt the artstyle to fit that. It would be very easy to do something unique for Thay for example, but Baldur's Gate the city is as generic medieval as it gets, you have to concentrate on motifs and color schemes maybe.

I like the artwork of BG 1 and 2 in particular, Baldurs Gate isnt over the top fantasy and more late medieval style with fantasy touches, this is good to make things relatable. It had slightly desaturated colours and an earthy tone on the colors that with the Ui that many times resembled old paper and stone, those things made you feel you are dealing with an down to earth world and made the fantasy elements stand out more. The interesting thing is that this style made even fantasy looking buildings look realistic and avoided that dreaded Disneyland look that many fantasy works have. The dude that chosen the art style for BG 1 and 2 knew what he was doing.

 

[Decado]

add vampire to game
give him plot thing that removes all vampiric about him (except emo dialogue)

super design

If we are on the quest to remove the plot device, then I expect Vampire Spawn players to have to face the drawbacks of playing as one.

In before you learn to "control" it and use it for even more superpowers mid-game.

I already said this. I'm betting money and a pizza party that the PC in this game is going to be the Adversary, or some kind of play on it:

"When an illithid undergoes ceremorphosis, it can occasionally take on some elements of the absorbed host creature's former mind, such as mannerisms. This typically manifests as a minor personality feature, such as a nervous habit and/or reaction (e.g., nail-biting or tapping one's foot), although the process that determines the type and number of traits so inherited appears to be stochastic. An adult illithid has even been known to hum a tune that its host knew in life. Usually, when a mind flayer inherits a trait like this, it keeps it a closely guarded secret, because, were its peers to learn of it, the illithid in question would most likely be killed. This is due to an illithid legend of a being called the Adversary. The legend holds that, eventually, an illithid larva that undergoes ceremorphosis will take on the host's personality and memory in its entirety. This "Adversary" would, mind and soul, still be the host, but with all the inherent abilities of an illithid."

Reddit thread (yes I fucking know) on people using this for their campaigns: https://www.reddit.com/r/rpg/comments/2q1g7y/has_anyone_run_a_campaign_using_the_mindflayer/

This will be a way to give the PC psionic powers, allow them to get away with keeping their personality and memories, etc.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

DO IT, SWEN. FUCKING DO IT MAN!

I want to like this game. I want to to want to buy. Make me want to buy it. Make a shameless fucking appeal to me based on a game that came out 20 years ago, I don't fucking care. DO IT.

4 party members? Isn't it the same as D:OS? ...what a strange coincidence...

There's nothing limiting the engine to 4 party members. Plenty of user-made modules use more, and there's mods to enable more in the base game.