Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Ontopoly]

RPGcodex, the forum where you can learn that BG 1 & 2 and Fallout 2 sucked.

I take it you're not familiar with how the Codex was back in the ~2005 era.

Consistently edgy?

 

[catfood]

RPGcodex, the forum where you can learn that BG 1 & 2 and Fallout 2 sucked.

I take it you're not familiar with how the Codex was back in the ~2005 era.

Consistently edgy?

The Codex used to hate BG with a passion. Fallout and Arcanum were the ones universally revered. PST was also appreciated for its writing.

 

[Jimmious]

Guys... AMA next week. READY YOUR SWORDS

 

[Dramart]

100 years after BG2, the only companions alive are going to be elves and dwarves. At least they say they will appear in the game. Now we have a connection with the old games. BUt that 100 years difference it's not a coincidence, they'll make the old characters a bunch of goods for nothing. BG3 with new bad characters. XD

 

[DeepOcean]

5e magic system is kinda popamolified as you waste slots while doing magic and most spells, specially the powerful ones require long rests. Some spells, specially class spells, they only require short rests. It is kinda popamolified in comparison to 3.5e because it allows more spamming but nowhere close to the cooldown retarded system. It is possible to balance things so fireball or chain lighting require long rests while you dont need 8hs of rest to cast minor cure wounds. However, there is nothing stopping Larian to just allowing rest everywhere as Bioware did.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

However, there is nothing stopping Larian to just allowing rest everywhere as Bioware did.

Well, there is that thing eating away at your brain

 

[Jimmious]

100 years after BG2, the only companions alive are going to be elves and dwarves. At least they say they will appear in the game.

 

[DeepOcean]

RPGcodex, the forum where you can learn that BG 1 & 2 and Fallout 2 sucked.

I take it you're not familiar with how the Codex was back in the ~2005 era.

Newfags have no idea how the codex was on 2005. It was far more elitist, even the raving lunatics of that time were more inclined than of today. It is pure decline.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

100 years after BG2, the only companions alive are going to be elves and dwarves. At least they say they will appear in the game. Now we have a connection with the old games. BUt that 100 years difference it's not a coincidence, they'll make the old characters a bunch of goods for nothing. BG3 with new bad characters. XD

pretty sure we covered earlier that some of the old companions are still alive through various asinine coincidences like being turned to stone.

 

[Dramart]

pretty sure we covered earlier that a lot of the old companions are still alive through various asinine coincidences like being turned to stone.

I don't remember, but good then

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Here's your citation, User0001:
https://www.pcgamer.com/larian-teases-a-return-of-minsc-and-boo-in-baldurs-gate-3/

edit: I said a lot, but I meant "some". Really though if they're willing to do this...

 

[Ontopoly]

It seems the only thing this game has in common with Baldur's Gate is the slogan they keep forcing into every single trailer, web page, and anything else that has anything to do with the game.
Gather your party. Gather your party. Gather your party.
Doesn't it just tickle your nostalgia when we use this one line as our catch phrase while simultaneously ignoring everything else about the originals?

 

[Jimmious]

Here's your citation, User0001:
https://www.pcgamer.com/larian-teases-a-return-of-minsc-and-boo-in-baldurs-gate-3/

edit: I said a lot, but I meant "some". Really though if they're willing to do this...

Also, you meant "some" but you know of one

 

[Ontopoly]

New issue of the Larian Gazette:

i can't find the weblink

It's an email newsletter.

Infinitron subscribing to their newsletter so we don't have to. We appreciate you.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

Here's your citation, User0001:
https://www.pcgamer.com/larian-teases-a-return-of-minsc-and-boo-in-baldurs-gate-3/

edit: I said a lot, but I meant "some". Really though if they're willing to do this...

Also, you meant "some" but you know of one

As the poster said, elves and such are likely still alive.

I haven't kept up with 5th edition, but someone else itt had a list of the living iirc.

Plus, Minsc and Boo are two characters, not one.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

I have to admit though, I wouldn't mind Edwin returning as a lich. Thavians are known for such things, after all...

(As if these simians would even bother to learn such a thing. Bah.)

 

[rusty_shackleford]

100 years after BG2, the only companions alive are going to be elves and dwarves. At least they say they will appear in the game. Now we have a connection with the old games. BUt that 100 years difference it's not a coincidence, they'll make the old characters a bunch of goods for nothing. BG3 with new bad characters. XD

A lot more companions are alive after 100 years than people probably realize. Probably more alive than dead.
Companions definitely alive:
Minsc. He was petrified for decades.

Spoiler

Viconia, yep. Get butthurt viconia-fags

Coran — Elf. He makes an appearance in "Murder in Baldur's Gate", which takes place shortly before BG3. I wouldn't be surprised if his son makes a major or minor appearance.

Companions probably alive:
Edwin — Powerful wizards are effectively immortal through various means. Obvious one is a True Polymorph to an immortal race or extremely long-lived race. Also, probably living as Edwina.

Jaheira — half-elves live about 200 years, and she's only about 30 at the start of BG1. Archdruids live for a very long time in the range of thousands of years.
Aerie — Elf and wizard, again, essentially immune to aging
Jan Jansen — Gnome+Wizard
Mazzy — Halflings live about 250 years
Xan — Elf. He's a wizard, but it's not known how powerful he became as he didn't appear past BG1.
Kivan — Elf.
Alora — Halfling.
Nalia — Wizard.

Maybe alive:
Quayle — He's a gnome wizard, but also pretty old already and it's unknown how powerful of a wizard he actually became.
Kagain — Dwarf. But he seemed pretty old already.
Yeslick — Dwarf, but again he's at least a century old already in BG1.
Korgan — Dwarf, but again he seemed pretty old.
Tiax — I wouldn't be surprised if he survived spellhold.

 

[User0001]

Here's your citation, User0001:
https://www.pcgamer.com/larian-teases-a-return-of-minsc-and-boo-in-baldurs-gate-3/

edit: I said a lot, but I meant "some". Really though if they're willing to do this...

Vincke hinted that the things that make you smile could even include a return of Minsc, the slightly addled ranger from Rasheman, and his faithful companion Boo, a miniature giant space hamster.

"If you look at what the Fifth Edition has done, characters like Boo and Minsc are still alive," Vincke said. "Bhaal and maybe a couple of other guys are still around. What’s gonna happen with that? You’re gonna discover when you play BG3."



What's gonna happen is I will kill both him and his rodent as soon as I see them.

 

[TwoEdge]

Massive decline. Don't take the path of PoE.

PoE 2 did it because spells was EXTREMELY weak on PoE 1... I mean, having 2 casts per rest when your wail of the banshee can kill a army of high level creature is one thing. Having 2 casts per rest when no spell can take 1/4 of enemy hp, is a no no....

No, I think it will al be cool down timers and warlocks will merely have a faster one. That seems more like Larian in terms of general popamole faggotry.

If they announce cooldowns in ANYTHING, i will insta remove from my wishlist. Despite all problems, i still believe that BG3 worth be played(but will not be good aas PF wotr or PF:KM or IE games)

We don't need another game with boring cooldowns. This mechanic makes no sense.

short rest in 5e tabletop is just "we sit for one hour and heal our wounds"
ability that recharge on short rest are supposed to be "spammable" each fight.

a warlock have 2-4 spell slots in total but the spells rechage on a short rest.
Full caster have x5-6 the number of spell slots but rechage on long rest.

There are exploits in the the system that make them more tactical by letting the players tap into a fraction of the long rest benefits: like a druid's natural recovery, a wizard's arcane recovery, a diviner's expert divination, sorcerer's sorcery points and so on. There's also HP recovery mechanics that are linked to short and long rests. There is a balance and a method (like it or not) to the whole system, and I honestly don't see how this will work in a streamlined fashion. I'd rather Larian left it as is.

 

[FreeKaner]

Daily reminder nostalgia is a mental illness.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Does anyone else feel really unimpressed by the companions (apart from the weird green alien elf)? Like not one of them even stands an inch next to how unique and snatched Pallegina lewks (or any of the main cast of Deadfire). Like older not as cute Timothée Chalamet the vampire elf is so bland. That nobody cutscene halfling that Swen fights before the dungeon totally looks like he has as much effort put into his lewk as some of your party? That's my only criticism tho and maybe they'll fix them and make them more unique during early access.

 

[vortex]

I don't care for the lewks. But, I'm worried they make them with bland personality as they are in the demo.

 

[Dramart]

A lot more companions are alive after 100 years than people probably realize. Probably more alive than dead.
Companions definitely alive:
Minsc. He was petrified for decades.

Spoiler

Viconia, yep. Get butthurt viconia-fags

Coran — Elf. He makes an appearance in "Murder in Baldur's Gate", which takes place shortly before BG3. I wouldn't be surprised if his son makes a major or minor appearance.

Companions probably alive:
Edwin — Powerful wizards are effectively immortal through various means. Obvious one is a True Polymorph to an immortal race or extremely long-lived race. Also, probably living as Edwina.

Jaheira — half-elves live about 200 years, and she's only about 30 at the start of BG1. Archdruids live for a very long time in the range of thousands of years.
Aerie — Elf and wizard, again, essentially immune to aging
Jan Jansen — Gnome+Wizard
Mazzy — Halflings live about 250 years
Xan — Elf. He's a wizard, but it's not known how powerful he became as he didn't appear past BG1.
Kivan — Elf.
Alora — Halfling.
Nalia — Wizard.

Maybe alive:
Quayle — He's a gnome wizard, but also pretty old already and it's unknown how powerful of a wizard he actually became.
Kagain — Dwarf. But he seemed pretty old already.
Yeslick — Dwarf, but again he's at least a century old already in BG1.
Korgan — Dwarf, but again he seemed pretty old.
Tiax — I wouldn't be surprised if he survived spellhold.

Insteresting. Now the thing is which companions and what they do with them. Some of them should be companions, at least two or three, that if they want some the old fans.

 

[Xzar]

News from the frontlines.

r/baldursgate is mostly ovverun by DOS loyalists at the moment. Enemy uses discord for coordinated downvoting of long time subscibers of this sub.
r/divinityoriginalsin so far remains the only salt-free community on BG3
Lots of bans to people who clocked 200+ hours in BGEE and BG2EE on Steam
Dixon Sider's "Larian, please rename this" thread on Steam gets locked at 1424 comments, within one hour after OneAngryGamer gets to know about its existence
Infinitron moves away the discussion about Islamic influences on game's lead designer in apparent attempt to hide it from the eyes of unregistered users on Codex
Situation at Beamdog forums is unclear
BG fans are coordinating a response in personal chats at the moment

 

[Grunker]

RPGcodex, the forum where you can learn that BG 1 & 2 and Fallout 2 sucked.

I take it you're not familiar with how the Codex was back in the ~2005 era.

Newfags have no idea how the codex was on 2005. It was far more elitist, even the raving lunatics of that time were more inclined than of today. It is pure decline.

so you're saying that even the decline is declining